[WISPA] BGP Initial Setup Consult

2014-04-23 Thread Chris Fabien
Anyone who is able to setup BGP routing on a CCR1016 please contact me offlist for details. We just got our initial IP allocation and need to hire out setting this up and some initial training. Thanks Chris Fabien LakeNet LLC ___ Wireless mailing list Wi

Re: [WISPA] BGP / OSPF Routing Help

2010-08-10 Thread can...@believewireless.net
You could do it a couple ways. First, use BGP multihop inside your network to connect all three routers. Second, use a tunnel to connect them with normal BGP. Then, traffic will go out the best BGP route. WISPA Wa

Re: [WISPA] BGP / OSPF Routing Help

2010-08-09 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Hi, You really didn't explain what issues you're experiencing in your test bed, but it sounds like you want simple iBGP peering. You'd do something like this on both routers. /routing bgp peer add instance=default remote-address=192.0.2.1 remote-as=36295 update-source=loopback0 If you wanted

[WISPA] BGP / OSPF Routing Help

2010-08-09 Thread Scott Carullo
I need some assistance... I currently have two upstream connections at 100MB with a full BGP feed each into Mikrotik x86 routers wich are also running OSPF facing internally - no routes are distributed from BGP to OSPF. The two BGP routers are located in two different cities and do not share B

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Josh Luthman
, any recommendations who I should contact? Thanks again. > > `S > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:54 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: R

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
anks again. `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help AS Prepends don't work so well now-a-days. We h

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Travis Johnson
AS Prepends don't work so well now-a-days. We have 3 full BGP feeds and keeping them balanced (incoming traffic) is quite a chore. It can be done, but it takes using communities and other BGP tricks. It would be worth finding a BGP Guru that can do some BGP magic and paying them a couple hundre

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help On a single ImageStream router we have two circuits: DS3 @ 45mb/s Fiber @ 100mb/s

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Matt Liotta
Prepending is no longer the desirable solution and should only be used if your upstreams don't support a better way. The preferred way is to adjust local preference based on a route policy. You can simply prefer your fiber circuit if you want or adjust it on an AS basis. You will likely only wa

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help The simplest way is to prepend the DS3 circuit. Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > On a single ImageStream router we have two circuits: > DS3 @ 45mb/s > Fiber @ 100mb/s > > The DS3 is routed more efficiently (less hops) and the

Re: [WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Matt Jenkins
The simplest way is to prepend the DS3 circuit. Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > On a single ImageStream router we have two circuits: > DS3 @ 45mb/s > Fiber @ 100mb/s > > The DS3 is routed more efficiently (less hops) and the fiber less efficient > (more hops). Since the BGP is routing traffic based

[WISPA] BGP Load Balancing Help

2010-01-17 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
On a single ImageStream router we have two circuits: DS3 @ 45mb/s Fiber @ 100mb/s The DS3 is routed more efficiently (less hops) and the fiber less efficient (more hops). Since the BGP is routing traffic based upon number of hops to final destination only, the DS3 gets 95+% of all our internal

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-06 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 00:57 -0500, Butch Evans wrote: > MED, in my experience, is not as commonly used. It is only useful if > the peer does not add other preferences for your AS. I should clarify this. Most companies that create local preference will at least allow you to "opt out" via commu

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-06 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 12:33 -0500, Jon Auer wrote: > You can use MED in influence inbound traffic from the same AS > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094934.shtml MED, in my experience, is not as commonly used. It is only useful if the peer does not add other

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-06 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 12:01 -0400, Sales wrote: > We have two bgp sessions with different providers using the same > interface. One provider is metered the other is flat rate. However we > seem to send 80% of traffic to the metered provider. Is there a way to > tell a mt router using bgp whi

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Josh Cheney
> influencing traffic via the "poorer" upstream due to the shorter AS path? >> >> P. >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Jon Auer [mailto:j...@tapodi.net] >> Sent: 05 October 2009 18:33 >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Jon Auer
om: Jon Auer [mailto:j...@tapodi.net] > Sent: 05 October 2009 18:33 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt > > Prepending on *inbound* BGP will influence local route > selection/*outbound* traffic. > > You can use MED in influence inbound traffic from

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Travis Johnson
AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bgp and mt We have two bgp sessions with different providers using the same interface. One provider is metered the other is flat rate. However we seem to send 80% of traffic to the metered provider. Is there a way to tell a mt router using bgp which path you

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Paul Hendry
Jon, By prepending to/from the "better" upstream peer aren't you influencing traffic via the "poorer" upstream due to the shorter AS path? P. -Original Message- From: Jon Auer [mailto:j...@tapodi.net] Sent: 05 October 2009 18:33 To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp a

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Jon Auer
ast in > Cisco) as per below: > > Weight > Local preference > Multi-exit discriminator > Origin > AS_path > Next hop > Community > > Cheers, > > P. > > -Original Message- > From: Jon Auer [mailto:j...@tapodi.net] > Sent: 05 October 2009 17:18 &

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Nick Olsen
ober 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: "wireless" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt Actually there are other ways to influence inbound traffic other than specific routes or AS Prepending (i.e. MED). The problem with more specific routes is that some ISP's will drop routes that have a small subne

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Paul Hendry
s, P. -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:b...@belwave.com] Sent: 05 October 2009 17:29 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt You mention "send" traffic, but do you mean "receive" traffic? Or both? To influence your outbound traffic (sen

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Mike Hammett
gent, then Michiana, on to ColoStore. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Sales" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:01 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] Bgp and mt &

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Brad Belton
9 11:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt Ya, its kind of hard to know what you want to do. You can setup costs so that one provider is cheaper than the other, prepends for inbound etc. I would have to take a look really to go,

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Paul Hendry
- From: Jon Auer [mailto:j...@tapodi.net] Sent: 05 October 2009 17:18 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt The most common method is to prepend your AS number to the path that you announce to the ISP that you want to de-prioritize. You would use set-bgp-prepend on the inbound

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Jon Auer
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >> Author of "Learn RouterOS" >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> B

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sales Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt Awesome but that wasn't much help lol. John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Sales
uot; > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of Sales > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:01 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Bgp and mt > > We have two bgp sessions with di

Re: [WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sales Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bgp and mt We have two bgp

[WISPA] Bgp and mt

2009-10-05 Thread Sales
We have two bgp sessions with different providers using the same interface. One provider is metered the other is flat rate. However we seem to send 80% of traffic to the metered provider. Is there a way to tell a mt router using bgp which path you prefer it to use ? I would like to make our

Re: [WISPA] BGP Question

2009-06-12 Thread Brad Belton
arini Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BGP Question IS there any way to verify on a Router the Advertisements received from a peer? in Mikrotik? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143

[WISPA] BGP Question

2009-06-12 Thread Gino Villarini
IS there any way to verify on a Router the Advertisements received from a peer? in Mikrotik? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 W

Re: [WISPA] BGP

2008-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
e are other things that I don't know much about. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:04 PM Sub

Re: [WISPA] BGP

2008-02-01 Thread Justin S. Wilson
t http://j2sw.mtin.net http://www.ndwave.com -Original Message- From: Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BGP If one were to multihome/BGP a wisp primarily serving home users between Cogent and another carrier

Re: [WISPA] BGP

2008-02-01 Thread Jaron Parsons
I have dual homed feeds from AT&T and Sprint. When I first installed the second, all traffic preferred AT&T. I added AS pre-pends to the AT&T link, until it was fairly equal between the two. From my understanding this makes your router appear further from the network than it really is on tha

Re: [WISPA] BGP

2008-02-01 Thread Bryan Scott
Matt wrote: > If one were to multihome/BGP a wisp primarily serving home users > between Cogent and another carrier like TWT or other where would the > majority of the traffic wind up flowing? Just considering some > bandwidth options. > It really depends on where your users are going. When we

[WISPA] BGP

2008-02-01 Thread Matt
If one were to multihome/BGP a wisp primarily serving home users between Cogent and another carrier like TWT or other where would the majority of the traffic wind up flowing? Just considering some bandwidth options. Matt --

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
I don't know; it seems like you are trying to solve the wrong set of problems. Why not just build a business model based on paying T1 pricing? This will allow you to get your business rolling now without routing worries like you currently have. Further, you can bond more T1s as your needs grow.

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
oh yeah, in DeKalb, IL 60115 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BG

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering So, about $750-$900 per month? Anyone on the list have a POP in Chicago to share bandwidth (and bandwidth costs!) with Mike? You may

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Clint Ricker
though I've routinely hit 5 or 6 megs. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List"

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
id E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering Mike Hammett wrote: > They don't route at all anywhere and have no intention of it. They have to route something somewhere, unless their whole network is one big flat

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
--- Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA List" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: [WISPA] BGP Engineering My upstream isn't very routing friendly. They're also having some issues, but I believe they'll ha

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Clint Ricker
h > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering > > Mike Hammett wrote: > > They don't route at all anywhere and have no intention of it. > > They have to route something somewhere, unless their whole net

RE: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Would it be possible to bridge to the remote box on the provider's provider's NOC? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering Mike Hammett wrote: They don't route at all anywhere and have no intention of it. That doesn't make any sens

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: They don't route at all anywhere and have no intention of it. They have to route something somewhere, unless their whole network is one big flat thing, and that just makes me want to weep. If you're presently using their IP addresses, they probably don't want to BGP-peer

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Hammett wrote: They don't route at all anywhere and have no intention of it. That doesn't make any sense. If you are buying DIA then they need to route everywhere. I was getting ready to get my own ASN so I could bring in a second upstream for the redundancy and increased performance th

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Imagestream routers have a lot of beef. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:06 A

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
ondary route. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Clint Ricker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: Being as though they aren't routing friendly (and don't want to change their whole network to be routing friendly), they are flexible enough where I imagine that I could put a box at their upstream and VPN over their network so I can do BGP. So you have your own direct IP a

Re: [WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Clint Ricker
What do you mean by not "routing friendly"? Do you mean that they don't provide BGP peering? Or, that they just don't really know what they are doing... Unless you have multiple upstream connections, there is (rarely) any reason to do BGP peering yourself. If you have your own ARIN block, most

[WISPA] BGP Engineering

2007-09-05 Thread Mike Hammett
My upstream isn't very routing friendly. They're also having some issues, but I believe they'll have it figured out soon. A VPN over their network solves all the current issues. Being as though they aren't routing friendly (and don't want to change their whole network to be routing friendly),

Re: [WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-08 Thread Matt Liotta
Jeff Broadwick wrote: "AS prepending is fairly effective method. Assuming you have more then just a /24 network, you also can use selective advertising of more specific prefixes through a preferred provider to influence inbound traffic." AS prepending is not as effective as it used to be. I

RE: [WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-08 Thread Jeff Broadwick
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Question Prepending is not an effective way of forcing other providers to send their traffic through your preferred upstream. In fact, there is no good way to do it at all. It is far better to just have quality upstreams. -Matt Don Annas wrote: >

Re: [WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Don Annas wrote: When peering with multiple providers, is it a requirement that you pick a primary to send and receive traffic or can you not prepend AS hops and allow traffic to arrive to you via the 'best' BGP route. There is no way to "insure" that traffic will come ba

Re: [WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-07 Thread Matt Liotta
Don Annas wrote: Well, our upstream providers are Level 3 and Time Warner Telecom. Both are good providers however, it is important that our traffic doesn't enter one provider and leave another since we provide VoIP services. I was looking for the 'best' way to achieve this. There is no way

RE: [WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-07 Thread Don Annas
riginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BGP Question Prepending is not an effective way of forcing other providers to send their traffic through your preferred up

Re: [WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-07 Thread Matt Liotta
Prepending is not an effective way of forcing other providers to send their traffic through your preferred upstream. In fact, there is no good way to do it at all. It is far better to just have quality upstreams. -Matt Don Annas wrote: When peering with multiple providers, is it a requirement

[WISPA] BGP Question

2007-02-07 Thread Don Annas
When peering with multiple providers, is it a requirement that you pick a primary to send and receive traffic or can you not prepend AS hops and allow traffic to arrive to you via the 'best' BGP route. As a VoIP provider, it is important that traffic enter and leave via the same provider. We curr