Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I run the latest and greatest at home on x86. Intel motherboard/cpu/NIC (as much as I hate Intel motherboards I have to admit it is working quite well). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-28 Thread can...@believewireless.net
3.13 has been what we've been using as well on X86 hardware with success as well. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I have had quite a bit of problems with the early double digits of 3.1x on > the PowerRouter 732 (dual core CPU). > > 3.13 has been beautiful so far. > > Josh

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I have had quite a bit of problems with the early double digits of 3.1x on the PowerRouter 732 (dual core CPU). 3.13 has been beautiful so far. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-28 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The main advantage of Imagestream is that you get their tech support people. When I've had problems that I thought were Imagestream related, they helped point to the Mikrotik server that wasn't doing something right. Cisco's support is very good as well but much more expensive than Imagestream. W

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-28 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
>> Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories >> but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. > > Cisco or ImageStream. ImageStream is cheaper and offers more > functionality (besides just BGP, I mean). Perhaps "flexibility" is a > better

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 13:11 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: > Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories > but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. Cisco or ImageStream. ImageStream is cheaper and offers more functionality (besides just BGP,

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread Ian Ellison
h Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > > > >> Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories >> but Butch's (my Mikroti

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
t: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories > but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 &g

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
high for the backbone. If we would > like > > > to > > > > >> implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. > > > > >> 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, > not > > > sure > > > > >> the

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread jp
> > > >> 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not > > sure > > > >> the brands that really work and the ones which does not. > > > >> > > > >> Suggestions welcome ;) > > > >> > >

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread eje
stared nor circular in our network configuration. Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: jp Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:01:08 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? We are using BGP int

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread Josh Luthman
fortune. > > >> 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not > sure > > >> the brands that really work and the ones which does not. > > >> > > >> Suggestions welcome ;) > > >> > > >> P.S. are you using MPLS? > > >>

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-26 Thread jp
are you using MPLS? > >> > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> MPLS > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >>> Behalf O

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 12:58 -0500, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > I'll have to agree with John here. There certainly is a LOT of hype > surrounding MPLS, and many, if not most, of the people who are demanding it > really don't need it. Don't mistake that for genuine applications that will > require MPLS

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 2009-01-25 at 10:59 -0600, John Scrivner wrote: > > > > Butch said: > > Yes. I have said for over 2 years that MPLS is more a "marketing ploy" > > than a necessary technology. I remember standing in front of Brad > > Belton's office discussing this exact subject. MPLS is likely to be a >

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread Jeff Broadwick
example. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > > Butch said: > Yes. I have said for o

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread John Scrivner
> > Butch said: > Yes. I have said for over 2 years that MPLS is more a "marketing ploy" > than a necessary technology. I remember standing in front of Brad > Belton's office discussing this exact subject. MPLS is likely to be a > "necessary" item for some JUST to be able to sell the same produc

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread Nathan Stooke
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Nathan, What type of router are you guys using? Cisco or Mikrotik? We also are

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread Gino Villarini
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Stooke Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Hello, I just talked to my CTO, he loves MPLS and would never go back. It solves a ton of issues with route

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-25 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, Right now they are manually configured tunnels. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 20:12 -0600, Nathan Stooke wrote: > We rolled out MPLS more to get VPLS. This is one of the benefits I mentioned. There are other ways to gain this benefit, however. I'm not gonna go through all the possibilities with what can be done with MPLS and show the comparab

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-24 Thread Nathan Stooke
, January 24, 2009 8:43 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Hello, We have 3 on another part of our network, but I know you can do more. It works really well for our setup. We are using RSTP so we do not even loose a ping when it ch

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-24 Thread Nathan Stooke
Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Soo.what is the most STP switches anyone has had on a single collision domain? On 1/24/09, Nathan Stooke wrote: > Hello, > > We rolled out MPLS more to get VPLS. While we have plans to really > utilize the MPLS we really need

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-24 Thread Josh Luthman
n...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Butch Evans > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:44 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > > On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:23 +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: >> to be honest mikrotik routing is not worki

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-24 Thread Nathan Stooke
very smooth. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:23 +0100,

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 17:23 +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from > being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. While there are some bugs in SOME versions of Mikrotik's RouterOS releases, it is far fr

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
sorry, not meant to send it here. I need some more coffee I guess...hum :/ > Parrebbe che gli sfigati siamo solo noi... > > bha... > >> We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik >> working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper. >> I

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, Right now 8. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? just for curiosity: how

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Parrebbe che gli sfigati siamo solo noi... bha... > We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik > working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper. > I haven't tried anything MPLS yet, we've been too busy to experiment with > it. > > The only t

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Kevin Neal
om: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? just coming back to the original topic: is everybody using routed backbone or somebody is playin

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
Routed is the way to go. Think of this, the internet is routed, why should you not be.. I support hundreds of networks running RouterOS most with dynamic routing, with very little issues. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
ehalf Of Paolo Di Francesco > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:12 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > > Hi Nathan, > > it could be a solution, but: > > 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? They sure like to rub it in don't they :) Randy Josh Luthman wrote: > I die a little inside every time I hear about this year's Animal Farm > as I couldn't make it =( > > Josh Luthman > Off

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Interesting what problems? in case send me an offline... Are you considering any router there? (Cisco, Juniper, Linux, whatever) > I bought a switched network (not even STP..) and moving it to routed > (static). > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I bought a switched network (not even STP..) and moving it to routed (static). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM,

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
just coming back to the original topic: is everybody using routed backbone or somebody is playing with the switched/mpls thing? :) Thank you > Dear All > > I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged > environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
t I trust are using it with alot of success. > >> > >> > >> __ > >> Jerry Richardson > >> airCloud Communications > >> > >> > >> > >> > >&

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
t; /Eje > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Paolo Di Francesco > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:23:33 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > > > Hi Travis > > to be honest mikr

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Randy Cosby
ommunications >> >> >> >> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:19 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subje

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
> > >Hello, > >MPLS > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco >Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Paolo Di Francesco Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:23:33 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
t;> > >>> MPLS > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >>> Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco > >>> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM > &

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
are you using MPLS? >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> MPLS >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco >>> Sent: Friday, J

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Travis Johnson
. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
rg] On > Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? > > we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering > about switched... > > Thank you. > &g

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Problems like? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:59 AM, "Paolo Di Francesco" wrote: > we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering > about switched... > > Thank you. > >> If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. >> >> Any idea

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. > If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. > > Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? > > On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: >> Dear All >> >> I am wondering how m

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Dear All > > I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged > environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious b

[WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice,