Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-14 Thread RickG
Just be sure to educate yourself on your insurance needs and review the policy with a fine tooth comb! On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Adair Winter wrote: > Risk strategies has been awesome > > On Feb 3, 2017 12:07 PM, "Marco Coelho" wrote: > >> >> Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their

Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-13 Thread Jan-OOLLC
they misplaced their Cohones? Is the sky falling? What other insurers exist? Jan V On 02/13/2017 11:11 AM, Adair Winter wrote: Risk strategies has been awesome On Feb 3, 2017 12:07 PM, "Marco Coelho" > wrote: Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their te

Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-13 Thread Adair Winter
Risk strategies has been awesome On Feb 3, 2017 12:07 PM, "Marco Coelho" wrote: > > Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has sent us a > non-renewal notice with reason code being they no longer insure ISPs. No > losses for a decade. > > Any suggestions out there? We're talk

Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-13 Thread Ryan Keeley
ly by reply email then delete and destroy any printed copies. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 8:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again I had the same issue. After going to a

Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-07 Thread Clay Stewart
Go local, or nearby city. On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > > Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has sent us a > non-renewal notice with reason code being they no longer insure ISPs. No > losses for a decade. > > Any suggestions out there? We're talkin

Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-03 Thread RickG
I had the same issue. After going to a LOCAL, REPUTABLE AGENT we ended up saving money and can beat on his door when/if there are issues! On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > > Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has sent us a > non-renewal notice with reaso

Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-03 Thread Keefe John
This happens all the time. No matter what your 'agent' says, make sure the carrier actually covers ISPs and tower climbers. These two companies FOR SURE cover this: Chubb Hanover Keefe On 2/3/2017 12:07 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has s

[WISPA] Insurance once again

2017-02-03 Thread Marco Coelho
Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has sent us a non-renewal notice with reason code being they no longer insure ISPs. No losses for a decade. Any suggestions out there? We're talking about bulidings, towers, liability, etc. Thanks in advance. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon

Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-20 Thread Marco Coelho
Again, the Hartford. A couple of claims in 10 years. No issues. mc On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, RickG wrote: > www.selectiveinsurance.com > I've been very happy with them for several years now. With that said, > I've never had a claim. Maybe the better question is: Who is happy > with thei

Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-17 Thread RickG
www.selectiveinsurance.com I've been very happy with them for several years now. With that said, I've never had a claim. Maybe the better question is: Who is happy with their insurance company AFTER they've had a claim? -RickG On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: > I'm having a

Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-17 Thread Blake Bowers
card today. - Original Message - From: "Scott Carullo" To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one) > I'm having a hard time finding someone to insure us for the requirements > below... > > Employer's liability

Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-17 Thread Rick Harnish
t; To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one) > > I'm having a hard time finding someone to insure us for the > requirements below... > > Employer's liability insurance in an amount not less than $1,000,000 > each occurrence. > &g

Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-17 Thread Marco Coelho
un...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Carullo > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:00 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one) > > I'm having a hard time finding someone to insure us for the requirements

Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
site: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:00 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WI

[WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)

2010-05-17 Thread Scott Carullo
I'm having a hard time finding someone to insure us for the requirements below... Employer's liability insurance in an amount not less than $1,000,000 each occurrence. Commercial General Liability (including completed operations and contractual liability) on an occurrence basis with limits of

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread D. Ryan Spott
> On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > > You can have your subcontractors put you on the list of people to > update > with any insurance changes. This will tell you if their

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread RickG
essage- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:46 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > > You can have your subcontractors put you on the list of peo

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread Robert West
I think the technical insurance term for that is "coveringyourass". Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
e one of your > guys drilled a hole through a gas line or electrical line and was either > too > stupid to notice or too scared to tell anyone? > > Bob- > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf O

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread Robert West
ebruary 03, 2010 9:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Insurance Outside of general liability insurance what insurance are some of you using. Also any recommendations on companies? Sent from my iPhone W

[WISPA] Insurance

2010-02-03 Thread Jeremie Chism
Outside of general liability insurance what insurance are some of you using. Also any recommendations on companies? Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-10 Thread Patrick Leary
Unlicensed to kill of course. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-10 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:29 AM, rwf wrote: > Oh? > So you are still a WISP then? > What is your company called? > Guess your filter still isn't working then. I am not a WISP and never have been. If you think you know something and would like to get yourself and others in trouble then by all mea

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-10 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Matt, would you mind clarifying.When you said... "have not the > left the > business", did you mean > I don't mind clarifying, but I am not sure what the interest is. > 1) Have not left OneRing/RapidLink, and are involved in a non-employ

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread rwf
Oh? So you are still a WISP then? What is your company called? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread 3-dB Networks
Wideband or narrowband :-P Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread RickG
a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:02 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest > > MMmm... What does Hotel California and Wireless Execs have in common?

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread MDK
ad to prove you wrong. I did :) -- From: "Patrick Leary" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:11 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest > Wireless denizens never die, we just

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Patrick Leary
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest MMmm... What does Hotel California and Wireless Execs have in common? "you can check in, but you can never leave" :-) Sounds like Matt is saying he still has vested interest to stay involved in RL/OR to protect his

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
status at OneRing/RapidLink or that 2) You cant talk about what you are doing now.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:07

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Robert West
urance bad- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest Agreed, it's long since ceased to be a

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Chuck Profito
Liotta Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest I am not longer with Rapid Link/One Ring as an employee, but I have not left the business. Ralph likes to speak out of turn. -Matt On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Brad Belton

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
ing or another? Not anymore? If true, that > really is > interesting... > > > Brad > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > Behalf Of rwf > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:50 AM > To:

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:50 AM, rwf wrote: > Matt- > > Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. > It is not my debate. I believe the list was discussing this for at least 3 days before I made my first post. > When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Baird
Agreed, it's long since ceased to be a "debate" anyway and turned into a propaganda session. Regards Michael Baird > Matt- > > Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. > > When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active. > > Some of us are here for wirele

Re: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread Brad Belton
esday, December 09, 2009 8:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest Matt- Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active. Some of us are here for wireless

[WISPA] Insurance thread- Matt and the rest

2009-12-09 Thread rwf
Matt- Please consider taking your insurance debate to another list. When you pop in, you just make the discussion hotter and more active. Some of us are here for wireless discussion, and Matt, although I understand you are no longer actively in the business, the rest of us still are. I even

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-09 Thread George Morris
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:20 AM, MDK wrote: > This is why in some cit

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-09 Thread Mike
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2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
nd self >> righteousness can remain fully intact - it won't be YOUR fault they >> died >> like my mother did, because Medicare refused treatment, right? >> After all, >> Medicare denies treatment to "covered" patients MORE than any other >

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 9, 2009, at 12:20 AM, MDK wrote: > Every country with a government run medical system Denies > routine > medical care, extraordinary medical care, or expensive medical care > on a > routine basis. This is why babies delivered by the NHS hospitals in > Britain are less than 90%

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:29 PM, MDK wrote: > I'm sure you're a nice guy... > > But you're trying to convince a lot of people who know better by > long years > of experience, that life would be beautiful and all will be fine, if > we just > give Congress a few more trillion dollars a year of our

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:32 PM, MDK wrote: > As I stated before... Medicare reimburses such low amounts, that > ever > doctor, hospital, clinic, lab, etc, that accepts it does so at a > loss. Not > just "no profit" but at a loss.Not only that, but Medicare has the > highest level of finan

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-09 Thread Matt Liotta
I can't reread what you said. I can however reread what you wrote. I suggest you do the same. You state that you weren't commenting on the whole healthcare debate. Yet you were responding to a thread that was specifically a healthcare debate. Thus, it is reasonable to take your comments in

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2009-12-09 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
rer, BY FAR.But, hey, if it's the government's > responsibility, we're morally relieved of any personal responsibility for > those who suffer for a lack, right? > > Or, are you going to tell us that government can buy unlimited health care > for everyone? > &g

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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
e government's responsibility, we're morally relieved of any personal responsibility for those who suffer for a lack, right? Or, are you going to tell us that government can buy unlimited health care for everyone? -- From: "Matt Liotta&quo

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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
eing "moral and caring" as giving Congress more money is an insult to people who know better. -- From: "David E. Smith" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:17 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insuran

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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
6 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > I've always thought this was really pretty easy. > > Dave, just pick ONE family and pay their insurance for them! It's well > within your right to do so. And it helps one other family afford health

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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
care agency we need. -- From: "David E. Smith" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:51 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:46, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: > >&g

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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
ifetime agency hacks... -- From: "RickG" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:48 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > "Those that cant" are already covered by the generosity of the US > taxpayer

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread MDK
And I have no right to anything of yours, either. -- From: "RickG" Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:27 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > When you own a business, you take a huge risk using a lot of blood, sweat, > te

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2009-12-08 Thread MDK
: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance >> >> >> Source please? >> >> > http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq > > (The overhead numbers come from "Won't this be just another bureaucracy?") > > David Smith >

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2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
Matt, Please reread what I said. I wasn't commenting on the whole healthcare debate. I was talking about Cuba. CUBA CUBA CUBA. Do you get it now? Just CUBA. Reread the original post and get off your high horse. Have you noticed everyone else stopped replying to you. Everyone el

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:56 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: > Matt, > > Chill, you're taking a really harsh tone. I'm talking about Cuba > because I know about that. I have many Latino friends. I speak > Spanish. I know Cubans and I know a lot of people who have been to > Cuba. You're putt

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2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
>>> delusion >>> that we or myself are best in anything. Keeps me moving. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> Is this the "Insurance List"?This is why politics should be a >>> No-No. >>> It's 99% of the list now.

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I did, they said it was too darn cold and I agreed. But the beer was good. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Exactly. Bernie Madoff went to jail because of his Ponzi scheme, why didn't FDR for social security? Well, other than the obvious of him dieing. Again, if Maryland wants to do social security, great. Leave it out of Kansas. - Mike Ha

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Scottie Arnett
My parents are both self-employed, about 60 years of age. Neither have ever had a heart attack, stroke, diabetes, etc... Their insurance cost the two of them almost $17,000 per year, and that is with a $2500 or $5000 deductible. They shopped and shopped insurance. They will find someplace a litt

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2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
's not competition, per se, but > >> it > >> should at least be used as a measuring tool. I'm not under any > >> delusion > >> that we or myself are best in anything. Keeps me moving. > >> > >> Bob- > >> > >> Is this the &q

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
ob- >> >> Is this the "Insurance List"?This is why politics should be a >> No-No. >> It's 99% of the list now. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wi

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Exactly. Bernie Madoff went to jail because of his Ponzi scheme, > why didn't > FDR for social security? Well, other than the obvious of him dieing. > Maybe you don't realize that Madoff fraudulently mislead investors whereas social security

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Brad Belton > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:48 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > > No kidding. No profits no medical advancements. Where do people go when > they

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: > You can't have it both ways. > > The survey (which is flawed, but it was brought up) says that Cuba > rates below the US. Did you read how the numbers were come up > with? > I guess I don't understand how I am expecting it both ways. You asked

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2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
w.ics-il.com -- From: "RickG" Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:30 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > Well, this discussion is about what is coming , not what we have but to > make >

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2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Andy Trimmell" Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:55 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > ["Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your > healthcare twice. It's like being forced to have Qwest

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2009-12-08 Thread Blake Bowers
card today. - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: > >> If Cuba is so good, why do they rank below the US? &g

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: > If Cuba is so good, why do they rank below the US? > Mostly likely because they are such a poor country and can't spend much money on healthcare. -Matt WISPA Wa

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
They just pay >> extra in >> taxes. >> >> Medicare for all. End of the controversy. Simple. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> bo

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
ubject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Love the sentiment and agree to it contents Robert...though really none of this belongs on the list any longer. BTW, have you read Taleb's "The Black Swan"? He is my new favorite philoshopher. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -O

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
ist Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance And I was just headed back to my desk to commend the individuals that have been participating in this discussion on how well they have stayed away from personal attacks on such a polarizing issue that we are all faced with today. Perhaps not directly related

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Blake Bowers
ssage - From: "Robert West" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > Actually, the United States ranks number 37 in the world for the best > doctors and health care system. Most Americans are

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make > something better. >

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I'm moving to Illinois. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I support a system for people that truly c

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2009-12-08 Thread ccrum
> > Medicare for all. End of the controversy. Simple. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom Sharples > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
ust pay once. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance History should be a guide; not a box. Our country has proven t

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
7:32 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I keep reading what everyone is saying about government and insurance, but I don't really believe you. Most of you say that you are against the government getting involved in health care, that it is a Sociali

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
Hahahahaha! I hope you got it on the first shot. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Just to break up the

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2009-12-08 Thread jp
ted. > > > Regards, > > Jeff > > > Jeff Broadwick > ImageStream > 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) > +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf

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2009-12-08 Thread Patrick Leary
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:56 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance No one should be offended by the truth. The truth, in itself, in incapable of b

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:10 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Being in South Florida, a lot of Folks get offended with anything to do with Cuba... How about a compromise Mexico any one ? ..Take

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2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Michael Baird wrote: > The post office is bankrupt, not self supporting. > http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/18/the-next-bankruptcy-the-u-s-postal-service/ > Your own reference doesn't state the post office is bankrupt nor does it refute that the post office is se

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2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
oys and go home. I'm open to any thoughtful discussion no matter my position. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Cliff LeBoeuf
-0800 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance IMO, this thread is getting pretty far off track and is wasting both time and WISPA resources. I respectfully request that everyone please consider the value in getting back to work and releasing this list for more productive WISP

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
The WHO. Another pro-American group! On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > But look at their healthcare at #144 > > http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html > > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: > > > > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > >> Our p

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
om: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:48 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance No kidding. No profits no medical advancements. Where do people go when they seek the best doctors

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
China - the land of human rights? The better questions is why they are looking better financially. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make > > something b

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Jack Unger
re is only one left. Owen Harrell -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul C Diem Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Yup, in the past century, Ameri

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
-- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Paul C Diem > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:26 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > > Yup, in the past century, America stopped being the land of oppo

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Baird
The post office is bankrupt, not self supporting. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/18/the-next-bankruptcy-the-u-s-postal-service/ Regards Michael Baird > On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote: > > >> Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay >> school

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
Paul C Diem > pcd...@foxvalley.net > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:39 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance...

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote: > Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay > school taxes for public school? Only makes sense that we'd again pay > twice for another public option. > > Good analogy. > I don't think your parents had to pay twice. The

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Andy Trimmell
["Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your healthcare twice. It's like being forced to have Qwest DSL, but electing to have FiOS instead. You're paying for 2 Internet services, one great and the other not."] Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Baird
Jeff Broadwick > ImageStream > 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) > +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Matt Liotta > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:16 AM > T

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> From the NY Times: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1 > The article certainly shares some facts and anecdotes regarding the 2003 Texas tort reform. However, it doesn't point to any research that ties cause and eff

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Jeff Broadwick
ehalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > Not sure where you got this info Matt. I've seen just the opposite. > In Mississippi they had lost most of the

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more > doctors > to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of > 20-30 > years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business > growing out of > co

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > Sure sign of a person losing his argument...personal attacks. > I would normally agree with you. Except in this case I am not relying on a personal attack to refute his point. However, I am fed up with uninformed people slowing down debate and

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:00 AM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: > But look at their healthcare at #144 > > http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html > What does that have to do with the point I was refuting? -Matt

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Brad Belton
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > You've got that one wrong. Studies have shown that in states where tort reform was enacted there was no ef

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
dwick" Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:04 AM To: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance > Not in some states Mike. I think California only has 4-6 insurance > companies that are allowed to sell policies in the state. That's one of &g

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