RE: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-24 Thread chris cooper
Multiple of RPU is still how Ive seen deals evaluated, past and present. The thinking on the part of the buyer is "I can buy you for X multiple of sales today. Yes- I can achieve economies of scale, yes I might be able to sell more services and crank up the revenue. But- those future activities oc

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-24 Thread Mac Dearman
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RE: [WISPA] Wisp In Killington VT?

2006-02-24 Thread G.Villarini
Title: Message Yeah, we are finding out this right now…way too much ice… last December I skied Vail, way better   Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-24 Thread danlist
> > I'd argue market conditions is the biggest factor. So why spend the money on > the higher price gear? > Well currently canopy is pretty "cheap" but only does 7Mbps/7Mbps throughput, a MT system w/ 23db MTI pocket antenna is about $400 but will do 30Mbps with good SNR and 15Mbps w/o a problem

Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --Some Observations

2006-02-24 Thread Matt Liotta
Charles Wu wrote: I would disagree with you on the above statement IMO, I've found that the SMB service offering (e.g., sub-T1 to 3xT1) plans seem to be the most profitable (highest margin) opportunities available Once you get to "carrier services" (e.g., 10+ Mb) -- the big guys start to take no

Re: [WISPA] Sales & Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services--SomeObservations

2006-02-24 Thread Matt Liotta
You seem to making the assumption that the services you are comparing are the same. In our case, our VoIP provides significantly better quality than offered by Vonage. Further, we can actually support fax, which tons of VoIP providers fall down on including Vonage. Thus, I don't have to offer r

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: Trie I did not offer any backup data. But use your immagination. Its all in one place, easy to check, easy to document, easy to configure, easy to backup, etc. What does mesh offer for better complete central management? You seem to be suggesting that I simply haven't looke

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, I think you are misinterpretting my comments. Don't read more in to them than are there. I am in no way attacking the validity of your experience or comments. I'm simply asking for more detail, so that I can learn from your experience. You seem to be suggesting that I simply haven't lo

RE: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Brian Webster
Quoting Tom: "What often happens, is technical people make these beautiful products from a technical point of view, but they are worthless because they don't solve the problems that need to be solved for its applications, which were the reasons for originally developing the technology." M

RE: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Brad Larson
Tom, IMHO mesh is great for lighting up downtown and city parks etc. but it has yet to prove itself in a large deployment with 1,000's of customers or 1,000's of nodes deployed. I too have first hand experience backhauling several mesh projects and the mesh edge so far has not been easy at all. Her

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Linda Pond
Tom and Brian: So very eloquantly said! Do Motorola - and companies like them - a favour: please forward these comments to them. They need to hear this, and will be a better company if they hear and heed it. Linda Linda Pond President Customer Connects "Bridging Technology Relationships" ww

[WISPA] commscope 3227 coax

2006-02-24 Thread Mario Pommier
has anyone used Comm-scope Cable 3227 LMR400-type coax? it is reliable? Thanks. Mario Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Judge Judy Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Rich Comroe
Your comments couldn't be more appropriate. I'm hearing 3rd hand that Moto just announced on webinar's today that their next firmware release (8.0) will no longer support compatibility with the original Canopy protocol, so original deployed equipment must be replaced. Some unhappy comments ap

Re: [WISPA] VOIP

2006-02-24 Thread Peter R.
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: So far, LNP is not a big deal - it's pretty easy to get a toll-free line. Toll-free is not LNP. How does the biz client keep his phone number without keeping his service with the LEC? But the 911 requirement is a problem. The whole PSAP setup where the local au

Re: [WISPA] VOIP BOC?

2006-02-24 Thread Peter R.
we call them TELE-BARONS. A. Huppenthal wrote: I wonder what we should start calling the new telcos. There are 3 international companies that control nearly all of telcom today. Verizon/MCI, SBC that bought Cingular/ATT, and Sprint/Nextel. They aren't Bell Operating Companies. They are reall

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: No I am not. I am asking you to tell me what you know, so I don't have to waste time replicating your research. Thats the purpose of this list, to exchange knowledge and data. Not just making claims, but disclosing why. I recall in an earlier email you making claims without

Re: [WISPA] commscope 3227 coax

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Moldashel
Mario Pommier wrote: has anyone used Comm-scope Cable 3227 LMR400-type coax? it is reliable? Thanks. Mario We have used this with Times connectors without any issues... -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 1174

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, I agree. Our downtown Mesh versus Cell/Sector trials proved exactly that. Our tests showed that the cities like DC could be better served with Cell/Sector models more effectively. As a matter of fact, Alvarion product, appeared to be well equiped for that task. I think projects like Phili

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, I'm not competing; just waiting for the intelligent debate to begin. I don't mind being challenged, I don't mind being out thought, and I don't mind being beat. I sometimes even purposely hypothetically support the minority side, to spark intelligent debate on the other side. But I do

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-24 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Tom, what if you could take the Cell/Sector system and add some routing that determined when a path had stopped and chose another one. You have controlled this by your choice of units to make those cross connections and really all that is happening is that the mesh routing is constantly testing to

Re: [WISPA] Best Network Card

2006-02-24 Thread Jenco Wireless
Anyone have a good source for these ??     Thanks,   Brad H   On 1/29/06, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Definately the Intel EtherExpress Pro. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net 541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original