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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum
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I think what you thought was RG6 was actually RG59 - Redline is
a pretty clean platform so I don't think too many issues will arise from the
deployment of that platform in your area.JohnnyOOn Fri
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:17 -0500, Bob Moldashel wrote:
Dustin Jurman wrote:
>If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
>with "peak hold" you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of
>the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more.
>
>
I don't
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Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
>Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts.
>
>Since we have been hired for part of this project,
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Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I totally agree with Dustin here.
Hanging them without looking first is akin to running a stop sign.
You'll probably be fine, most of the time. But..
It doesn't take long to look.
Bob's right, things can and almost always do get missed. Dustin
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If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
with "peak hold" you will q
Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts.
Since we have been hired for part of this project, I believe it is my
RESPONSIBILITY to point out any known issues to the customer; and, it is
my responsibility to back up my concerns with hard date, not just 'my
fe
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Dustin Jurman wrote:
If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
with "peak hold" you wi
iscussion in my topic.
- Cliff
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Takes no more than a few minutes t
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Dustin Jurman wrote:
>If the spectrum an
I think you hit the nail on the headBob Moldashel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AUGH!This whole thread..Some have touched on pieces of it but how about this summary..The Redline is a two piece radio. It does not send 5 Ghz up the cable. It sends an IF frequency which is lower and
Dustin Jurman wrote:
If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
with "peak hold" you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of
the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more.
I don't know about you but I'm not about to leave a spectrum analyzer
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AUGH!
This whole thread..
Some have touched on pieces of it but
AUGH!
This whole thread..
Some have touched on pieces of it but how about this summary..
The Redline is a two piece radio. It does not send 5 Ghz up the cable.
It sends an IF frequency which is lower and more forgiving as well as
power to operate the outdoor unit. The Re
I think what you thought was RG6 was actually RG59 - Redline is a pretty clean platform so I don't think too many issues will arise from the deployment of that platform in your area.
JohnnyO
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:31 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Thanks for all of the feedback.
Thanks for all of the feedback.
For clarification, the LMR400 cable was 140
feet and was the only cable that connected the analyzer to the antenna.
I am familiar with the IDU and ODU
configuration of the Redline equipment.
This test was to see what 5.8 RF was
present. The cust
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With 140 ft of
Redline itself, does not have spectrum analasys capability, from what I
understood.
Generally Redline user can use it to see if their radio can work well on a
channel, by looking for loss, and what channel worksbest. but the fact that
the Redline smashes through 5.8G fine does not mean that othe
Another thought is maybe it was alvarion gear or some thing similar that
uses a frequency converter at the antenna.
I think they get fed with a small cable.
George
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Cliff,
Are you sure the first 140' was RG6? I think that is 75 ohm cable so
that
may be a problem, if it was something else it still might have too much loss
at 5.8 GHz to get any signal to the SA. You may be on to something with the
adapters, if they were just using good quality N-Type fo
With 140 ft of LMR-400 at 5.8GHz, the loss is about 15db. With a good
antenna topside, you might get some usable results, but not good
ones
For the RG6, I can't find any loss specs for freq. above 900MHz. At
900MHz, the loss is about 10db for 140 ft. Extrapolating that to
5.8GHz, I esti
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There was no noise detected b/c there was no signal going into the
SPEC-AN ! - This sounds like something you would do Cliff - sure this guy
wasn't related to you ?
JohnnyO
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:07 -0600, Cliff Le
There was no noise detected b/c there was no signal going into the SPEC-AN ! - This sounds like something you would do Cliff - sure this guy wasn't related to you ?
JohnnyO
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:07 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis w
www.timesmicrowave.com
Go to the online calculator and figure up the losses on your cable. Be sure
to set the freq at 5800 mhz.
I'd not even count the connectors as loss, they are usually in the .1 to .5
range. But for a survey adding 1dB of loss per connector is safe.
As I read this they
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Gino,
It was Redline's 2' panel.
- Cliff
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Gino,
It was Redline's 2' panel.
- Cliff
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What
What redline antenna was used? A sector a panel ?
Gino A. Villarini,
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