Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-18 Thread ccrum
Hey Sara,

Just checking to see if you guys were still interested in a personal demo.
Give me shout if/when you are ready. Or just tell me to bug off and I'll
quit bothering you ;).

Regards,

Cameron Crum
Wispmon.com
Dot11 Networks, Inc.


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara



 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-18 Thread Peter Bowen
  Peter from Freeside here  Thank you to my friends and customers who
responded earlier. 

  Okay - I know... no commercial posts, which is why I haven't responded to
the thread, but I saw Cameron's post this morning and thought I would jump
in really quick with a couple of comments...

  The dig about the install being a trophy was probably deserved. :)  I've
improved the docs over the last month.  Hopefully it no longer earns you a
trophy. :)

  We have a Vmware image available on the demo page - super easy for
evaluation.

  Billing is complicated, and while the configuration page has a note about
each option, config can be a bear.  We can help with that, ping me off list.

  Docs are sparse - Would it help to beg the opens source community to help
with docs?  I will. Please... :)  We spend a full day on support
customers and new features.  The docs end up low on the list.  Matt nailed
it on the head.

  Again for more info ping me off of the list.

-Peter
  

On 5/12/10 11:24 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 We are interested in the call rating/billing/CABS abilities as well, the
 website is sparse on any details.
 
 Regards
 Michael Baird
 Hi Paul,
 
 Freeside is supposedly set up very well to do VOIP rating and billing.
 There are several very large VOIP operations that use it for their
 billing right now, and although I have not set it up, all of the
 facilities are there to tie it in.
 
 As far as documentation, yeah, it is very sparse.   I don't think that
 it is necessarily to get people to pay for support, I think it is more
 like they don't have people on staff to write documentation.   They
 basically do support and write code.   The wiki has gotten better, but
 it is still a far cry from being comprehensive.   If you have access to
 some linux/perl/sql people, you can probably get it installed.
 
 I actually got Freeside installed and running on a machine back in
 2002.   I think it took me a full week of messing around to get it
 installed.   When I finally did get it running, I messed around with it
 for a month, and then took the hard drive out of the machine and put it
 on a shelf.I think it is still around here somewhere.It is a
 trophy - like the first time I solved a Rubiks Cube and I put it on the
 shelf for a month afterward.   While I am sure that my sysadmin and I
 could get it installed and running, we leave that to the Freeside
 support crew because they can do it easier and know how to fix most of
 the issues that come up.
 
 Freeside is kind of like the billing version of Mikrotik.   It is
 complicated and has a relatively steep learning curve, but there is good
 available commercial support for it, and because it is open source it
 can be modified to do just about anything.
 
 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com
 
 
 On 5/12/2010 4:17 AM, Paul Hendry wrote:

 Hey Matt,
 
 I'm just about to start looking at Freeside for automating VoIP rating and
 billing. Have you had any joy with that? Only problem with Freeside I've
 seen so far is the lack of documentation which I'm guessing is on purpose to
 get you to pay for support.
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Paul.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:li...@manageisp.com]
 Sent: 11 May 2010 21:07
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
 
 We use Freeside with integrated RT Ticket System.   The next upgrade of
 Freeside (we are planning on implementing it next month) is also
 supposed to include a calendar that is tied to RT.
 
 This has worked very well for us, although Freeside has a few wonks that
 have to be dealt with on occasion.
 
 All of this software is open source, so you don't pay for the licensing,
 but you will probably have to pay someone for support unless you have
 access to some Linux/SQL/perl gurus.If you do have access to some
 coding talent, it is easy to add more functionality and features to
 Freeside.   We have added business reporting dashboards, bandwidth
 control exports, integration with Xymon for customer monitoring and
 integration with Asterisk to do robo-calls to customers who are late
 paying their bills or have gone off line and may need technical
 support.That kind of stuff isn't happening with Powercode.
 
 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com
 
 

-- 
_
Peter Bowen
President/CEO
Freeside Internet Services, Inc.
P: (415) 375-3722
C: (805) 216-9743
pe...@freeside.biz









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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-12 Thread Paul Hendry
Hey Matt,

I'm just about to start looking at Freeside for automating VoIP rating 
and billing. Have you had any joy with that? Only problem with Freeside I've 
seen so far is the lack of documentation which I'm guessing is on purpose to 
get you to pay for support.

Many thanks,

Paul.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:li...@manageisp.com] 
Sent: 11 May 2010 21:07
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

We use Freeside with integrated RT Ticket System.   The next upgrade of 
Freeside (we are planning on implementing it next month) is also 
supposed to include a calendar that is tied to RT.

This has worked very well for us, although Freeside has a few wonks that 
have to be dealt with on occasion.

All of this software is open source, so you don't pay for the licensing, 
but you will probably have to pay someone for support unless you have 
access to some Linux/SQL/perl gurus.If you do have access to some 
coding talent, it is easy to add more functionality and features to 
Freeside.   We have added business reporting dashboards, bandwidth 
control exports, integration with Xymon for customer monitoring and 
integration with Asterisk to do robo-calls to customers who are late 
paying their bills or have gone off line and may need technical 
support.That kind of stuff isn't happening with Powercode.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


On 5/11/2010 1:59 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
 at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
 and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
 advertised. :(

 I ended up not going with them.

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.netwrote:


 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

  
 Something like $1/active account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com  wrote:

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  
 On
  
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


  
 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of

 what
  
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara





  

 
  
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-12 Thread ccrum
Be prepared to shell out some cash. In my opinion, it would be well worth
either buying an appliance from them or having them do the installation to
your specs. Documentation is lacking and it seems as though key parts are
deliberately left out. After a month of messing around, I still had to
hire them for a couple hours to fix things that were missing. I still
don't have it all working the way I want, but Wispmon will soon do billing
so I won't need it anymore.

Cameron

 Hey Matt,

   I'm just about to start looking at Freeside for automating VoIP rating
 and billing. Have you had any joy with that? Only problem with Freeside
 I've seen so far is the lack of documentation which I'm guessing is on
 purpose to get you to pay for support.

 Many thanks,

 Paul.

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:li...@manageisp.com]
 Sent: 11 May 2010 21:07
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 We use Freeside with integrated RT Ticket System.   The next upgrade of
 Freeside (we are planning on implementing it next month) is also
 supposed to include a calendar that is tied to RT.

 This has worked very well for us, although Freeside has a few wonks that
 have to be dealt with on occasion.

 All of this software is open source, so you don't pay for the licensing,
 but you will probably have to pay someone for support unless you have
 access to some Linux/SQL/perl gurus.If you do have access to some
 coding talent, it is easy to add more functionality and features to
 Freeside.   We have added business reporting dashboards, bandwidth
 control exports, integration with Xymon for customer monitoring and
 integration with Asterisk to do robo-calls to customers who are late
 paying their bills or have gone off line and may need technical
 support.That kind of stuff isn't happening with Powercode.

 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com


 On 5/11/2010 1:59 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into
 powercode
 at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna
 rock!
 and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
 advertised. :(

 I ended up not going with them.

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash -
 Listsmarkl...@uwol.netwrote:


 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for
 everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:


 Something like $1/active account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com  wrote:

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

 On

 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software



 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of

 what

 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara







 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-12 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi Paul,

Freeside is supposedly set up very well to do VOIP rating and billing.   
There are several very large VOIP operations that use it for their 
billing right now, and although I have not set it up, all of the 
facilities are there to tie it in.

As far as documentation, yeah, it is very sparse.   I don't think that 
it is necessarily to get people to pay for support, I think it is more 
like they don't have people on staff to write documentation.   They 
basically do support and write code.   The wiki has gotten better, but 
it is still a far cry from being comprehensive.   If you have access to 
some linux/perl/sql people, you can probably get it installed.

I actually got Freeside installed and running on a machine back in 
2002.   I think it took me a full week of messing around to get it 
installed.   When I finally did get it running, I messed around with it 
for a month, and then took the hard drive out of the machine and put it 
on a shelf.I think it is still around here somewhere.It is a 
trophy - like the first time I solved a Rubiks Cube and I put it on the 
shelf for a month afterward.   While I am sure that my sysadmin and I 
could get it installed and running, we leave that to the Freeside 
support crew because they can do it easier and know how to fix most of 
the issues that come up.

Freeside is kind of like the billing version of Mikrotik.   It is 
complicated and has a relatively steep learning curve, but there is good 
available commercial support for it, and because it is open source it 
can be modified to do just about anything.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


On 5/12/2010 4:17 AM, Paul Hendry wrote:
 Hey Matt,

   I'm just about to start looking at Freeside for automating VoIP rating 
 and billing. Have you had any joy with that? Only problem with Freeside I've 
 seen so far is the lack of documentation which I'm guessing is on purpose to 
 get you to pay for support.

 Many thanks,

 Paul.

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:li...@manageisp.com]
 Sent: 11 May 2010 21:07
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 We use Freeside with integrated RT Ticket System.   The next upgrade of
 Freeside (we are planning on implementing it next month) is also
 supposed to include a calendar that is tied to RT.

 This has worked very well for us, although Freeside has a few wonks that
 have to be dealt with on occasion.

 All of this software is open source, so you don't pay for the licensing,
 but you will probably have to pay someone for support unless you have
 access to some Linux/SQL/perl gurus.If you do have access to some
 coding talent, it is easy to add more functionality and features to
 Freeside.   We have added business reporting dashboards, bandwidth
 control exports, integration with Xymon for customer monitoring and
 integration with Asterisk to do robo-calls to customers who are late
 paying their bills or have gone off line and may need technical
 support.That kind of stuff isn't happening with Powercode.

 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com


 On 5/11/2010 1:59 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:

 Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
 at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
 and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
 advertised. :(

 I ended up not going with them.

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.netwrote:


  
 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:



 Something like $1/active account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com   wrote:

  
 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]


 On


 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software




 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets

Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-12 Thread Michael Baird
We are interested in the call rating/billing/CABS abilities as well, the 
website is sparse on any details.

Regards
Michael Baird
 Hi Paul,

 Freeside is supposedly set up very well to do VOIP rating and billing.
 There are several very large VOIP operations that use it for their
 billing right now, and although I have not set it up, all of the
 facilities are there to tie it in.

 As far as documentation, yeah, it is very sparse.   I don't think that
 it is necessarily to get people to pay for support, I think it is more
 like they don't have people on staff to write documentation.   They
 basically do support and write code.   The wiki has gotten better, but
 it is still a far cry from being comprehensive.   If you have access to
 some linux/perl/sql people, you can probably get it installed.

 I actually got Freeside installed and running on a machine back in
 2002.   I think it took me a full week of messing around to get it
 installed.   When I finally did get it running, I messed around with it
 for a month, and then took the hard drive out of the machine and put it
 on a shelf.I think it is still around here somewhere.It is a
 trophy - like the first time I solved a Rubiks Cube and I put it on the
 shelf for a month afterward.   While I am sure that my sysadmin and I
 could get it installed and running, we leave that to the Freeside
 support crew because they can do it easier and know how to fix most of
 the issues that come up.

 Freeside is kind of like the billing version of Mikrotik.   It is
 complicated and has a relatively steep learning curve, but there is good
 available commercial support for it, and because it is open source it
 can be modified to do just about anything.

 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com


 On 5/12/2010 4:17 AM, Paul Hendry wrote:

 Hey Matt,

  I'm just about to start looking at Freeside for automating VoIP rating 
 and billing. Have you had any joy with that? Only problem with Freeside I've 
 seen so far is the lack of documentation which I'm guessing is on purpose to 
 get you to pay for support.

 Many thanks,

 Paul.

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:li...@manageisp.com]
 Sent: 11 May 2010 21:07
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 We use Freeside with integrated RT Ticket System.   The next upgrade of
 Freeside (we are planning on implementing it next month) is also
 supposed to include a calendar that is tied to RT.

 This has worked very well for us, although Freeside has a few wonks that
 have to be dealt with on occasion.

 All of this software is open source, so you don't pay for the licensing,
 but you will probably have to pay someone for support unless you have
 access to some Linux/SQL/perl gurus.If you do have access to some
 coding talent, it is easy to add more functionality and features to
 Freeside.   We have added business reporting dashboards, bandwidth
 control exports, integration with Xymon for customer monitoring and
 integration with Asterisk to do robo-calls to customers who are late
 paying their bills or have gone off line and may need technical
 support.That kind of stuff isn't happening with Powercode.

 Matt Larsen
 vistabeam.com


 On 5/11/2010 1:59 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:

  
 Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
 at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
 and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
 advertised. :(

 I ended up not going with them.

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.netwrote:




 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:



  
 Something like $1/active account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.comwrote:



 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]


  
 On


  
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11

Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Powercode can do all of that.  It is what I use.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara



 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I use Powercode.

- Original Message - 
From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good 
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara



 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Sara Gray
How much does powercode cost?


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I use Powercode.

- Original Message - 
From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good 
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara






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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Something like $1/active account.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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continue that counts.”
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Justin Wilson
Azotel is a good solution. Ties into billing/provisioning/etc.
www.wispsolutions.com . They are a WISPA member so it¹s always good to
support members. Azotel is much more involved than simple ticketing as it is
billing and more but it¹s one screen to look at.

Otherwise we have implemented the following in the past.

Perldesk ­ www.perldesk.com
osTicket ­ www.osticket.com

Justin

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From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

Sara





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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
$1 For everything or just half the features?

ryan

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Something like $1/active account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
  How much does powercode cost?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
 
  I use Powercode.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
 
 
  I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
  appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
  software
  that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
  have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
  others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything. 
Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


$1 For everything or just half the features?

ryan

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Something like $1/active account.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
  How much does powercode cost?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
 
  I use Powercode.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
 
 
  I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
  appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
  software
  that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few 
  but
  have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
  others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
advertised. :(

I ended up not going with them.

ryan

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.netwrote:

 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

  Something like $1/active account.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
  continue that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
   How much does powercode cost?
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
   I use Powercode.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
   To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
   Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
  
   I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
   appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
   software
   that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
   but
   have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
   others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
  
   Sara
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
What features did you not get that you wanted?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:59 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote:
 Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
 at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
 and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
 advertised. :(

 I ended up not going with them.

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.netwrote:

 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

  Something like $1/active account.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
  continue that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
   How much does powercode cost?
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
   I use Powercode.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
   To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
   Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
  
   I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
   appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
   software
   that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
   but
   have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
   others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
  
   Sara
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
What were you missing Ryan?

- Original Message - 
From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
advertised. :(

I ended up not going with them.

ryan

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Lists 
markl...@uwol.netwrote:

 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

  Something like $1/active account.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
  continue that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
   How much does powercode cost?
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
   I use Powercode.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
   To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
   Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
  
  
   I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
   appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
   software
   that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
   but
   have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
   others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.
  
   Sara
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
   
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
We use Freeside with integrated RT Ticket System.   The next upgrade of 
Freeside (we are planning on implementing it next month) is also 
supposed to include a calendar that is tied to RT.

This has worked very well for us, although Freeside has a few wonks that 
have to be dealt with on occasion.

All of this software is open source, so you don't pay for the licensing, 
but you will probably have to pay someone for support unless you have 
access to some Linux/SQL/perl gurus.If you do have access to some 
coding talent, it is easy to add more functionality and features to 
Freeside.   We have added business reporting dashboards, bandwidth 
control exports, integration with Xymon for customer monitoring and 
integration with Asterisk to do robo-calls to customers who are late 
paying their bills or have gone off line and may need technical 
support.That kind of stuff isn't happening with Powercode.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


On 5/11/2010 1:59 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode
 at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock!
 and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were
 advertised. :(

 I ended up not going with them.

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Listsmarkl...@uwol.netwrote:


 I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything.
 Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs.

 - Original Message -
 From: D. Ryan Spottrsp...@irongoat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 $1 For everything or just half the features?

 ryan

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

  
 Something like $1/active account.

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com  wrote:

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  
 On
  
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


  
 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of

 what
  
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara





  

 
  
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
If you have a developer to make things work together, that's a great option.

Powercode's alternative is to shut the customer off and have them pay
their bill.  I'd rather that then a phone call.  Just my opinion.

Chuck - does your Wombat/Platypus shut customers off, track equipment,
etc or is it simply a billing system?

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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continue that counts.”
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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Platypus does it as well... $250/mth for under 5k customers...

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Sara Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:24 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara




 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
Wombat/Plat has a radius integration that will do that, and we have some of our 
own custom things that we are working on to make it do some other things we 
want it to do.  It's not very much work to get it implemented if you know what 
you are doing... but if you are wanting a drop in solution maybe Powercode will 
do what you want.  I know I wasn't going to pay more than .10/customer/month.  
It also integrates well with IPPay.  Honestly, the money I am saving over a 
traditional merchant account by switching to IPPay is more than paying for 
Platypus.

Their API is very open and they will let you do about anything with the 
software.  I don't know if Powercode is all web based or not, but having a 
client32 application is pretty nice to have for my techs/billing people.  In 
addition, it tracks our sales commissions, customer referrals, and more.  I'm 
not trying to sell it, but just giving an explanation on why I'm using it.  I 
reviewed powercode, and the price blew me away.  1400 customers was almost 
$2000 per month.  Almost in one month I pay for Wombat/Platypus for a year.

Nothing did everything we wanted, so we looked at cost and how do we customize 
it to our needs.  Platypus/Wombat fit the bill.  They even came out and did a 
two day training seminar for my whole company, made sure the software/system 
was completely setup correctly for $1k/day.  I probably could have figured it 
out, but I wanted to make sure someone was training my people correctly + I 
didn't have the time.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

If you have a developer to make things work together, that's a great option.

Powercode's alternative is to shut the customer off and have them pay their 
bill.  I'd rather that then a phone call.  Just my opinion.

Chuck - does your Wombat/Platypus shut customers off, track equipment, etc or 
is it simply a billing system?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that 
counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Platypus does it as well... $250/mth for under 5k customers...

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Sara Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:24 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets, 
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good 
 software that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked 
 at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara




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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
IPPay and Powercode is like bread/butter or spaghetti/meatballs.
Charles has an amazing service - simple, great cost savings.

Powercode is all web based.  Even the built in web proxy.  It's like
the Canopy AP to SM proxy but it uses the same port (444) as the
administration.  I prefer http over win32 by a long shot (does your
stuff work with Windows XP?  Vista?  7?  what about Mac/*nix?  Got a
virus and need to reinstall?  At a different PC then before?)

The biggest separator for the decision on where to go is to ask are
you willing to code something to fit your needs or are you looking for
an off the shelf product?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Plat has a radius integration that will do that, and we have some of 
 our own custom things that we are working on to make it do some other things 
 we want it to do.  It's not very much work to get it implemented if you know 
 what you are doing... but if you are wanting a drop in solution maybe 
 Powercode will do what you want.  I know I wasn't going to pay more than 
 .10/customer/month.  It also integrates well with IPPay.  Honestly, the money 
 I am saving over a traditional merchant account by switching to IPPay is more 
 than paying for Platypus.

 Their API is very open and they will let you do about anything with the 
 software.  I don't know if Powercode is all web based or not, but having a 
 client32 application is pretty nice to have for my techs/billing people.  In 
 addition, it tracks our sales commissions, customer referrals, and more.  I'm 
 not trying to sell it, but just giving an explanation on why I'm using it.  I 
 reviewed powercode, and the price blew me away.  1400 customers was almost 
 $2000 per month.  Almost in one month I pay for Wombat/Platypus for a year.

 Nothing did everything we wanted, so we looked at cost and how do we 
 customize it to our needs.  Platypus/Wombat fit the bill.  They even came out 
 and did a two day training seminar for my whole company, made sure the 
 software/system was completely setup correctly for $1k/day.  I probably could 
 have figured it out, but I wanted to make sure someone was training my people 
 correctly + I didn't have the time.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 If you have a developer to make things work together, that's a great option.

 Powercode's alternative is to shut the customer off and have them pay their 
 bill.  I'd rather that then a phone call.  Just my opinion.

 Chuck - does your Wombat/Platypus shut customers off, track equipment, etc or 
 is it simply a billing system?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue 
 that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Platypus does it as well... $250/mth for under 5k customers...

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Sara Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:24 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked
 at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara




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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Justin Wilson
Azotel is a good solution. Ties into billing/provisioning/etc.
www.wispsolutions.com . They are a WISPA member so it¹s always good to
support members. Azotel is much more involved than simple ticketing as it is
billing and more but it¹s one screen to look at.

Otherwise we have implemented the following in the past.

Perldesk ­ www.perldesk.com
osTicket ­ www.osticket.com

Justin

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From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

Sara





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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
How does Azotel stand up to Powercode?  Powercode has been there for years, 
but they did stagnate for awhile.

Azotel doesn't look nearly as full-featured as Powercode.

So then how does the pricing compare?

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


Azotel is a good solution. Ties into billing/provisioning/etc.
www.wispsolutions.com . They are a WISPA member so it¹s always good to
support members. Azotel is much more involved than simple ticketing as it is
billing and more but it¹s one screen to look at.

Otherwise we have implemented the following in the past.

Perldesk ­ www.perldesk.com
osTicket ­ www.osticket.com

Justin

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From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

Sara





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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Justin Wilson
I have some clients running powercode.  They have been having troubles
getting licenses and such.I was always a fan of powercode.  The
powercode web-site has no new news since 2009. The forum link returns a page
not found.  I have heard they turned things around in the company awhile
back. One client of mine had issues getting licenses not too long ago.

To me any billing software needs to have an active development behind
it.  Places like authorize.net and the like make changes that break API
enabled apps on a semi-regular basis.

I would call Scott at solutions4ebiz for a test drive.  The have a demo.

Justin

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From: Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:31:14 -0700
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

How does Azotel stand up to Powercode?  Powercode has been there for years,
but they did stagnate for awhile.

Azotel doesn't look nearly as full-featured as Powercode.

So then how does the pricing compare?

- Original Message -
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


Azotel is a good solution. Ties into billing/provisioning/etc.
www.wispsolutions.com . They are a WISPA member so it¹s always good to
support members. Azotel is much more involved than simple ticketing as it is
billing and more but it¹s one screen to look at.

Otherwise we have implemented the following in the past.

Perldesk ­ www.perldesk.com
osTicket ­ www.osticket.com

Justin

-- 
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
http://www.mtin.net/blog
Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support



From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

Sara





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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Cliff,

Powercode v9 had a major price tag increase with it.  Are you comparing 
Powercode v9 pricing to Azotel?  Or the old Powercode v8?

- Original Message - 
From: Cliff w...@eccentrixtechnologies.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


When I priced it out for replacing Powercode, I think it was 1.5X the cost.

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Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

How does Azotel stand up to Powercode?  Powercode has been there for years,
but they did stagnate for awhile.

Azotel doesn't look nearly as full-featured as Powercode.

So then how does the pricing compare?

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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


Azotel is a good solution. Ties into billing/provisioning/etc.
www.wispsolutions.com . They are a WISPA member so it¹s always good to
support members. Azotel is much more involved than simple ticketing as it is
billing and more but it¹s one screen to look at.

Otherwise we have implemented the following in the past.

Perldesk ­ www.perldesk.com
osTicket ­ www.osticket.com

Justin

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From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

Sara





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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Layne Sisk
Sara,
In our call center we support ISPs and WISPs that use most if
not all of the solutions mentioned.  Here is some input on the two
mentioned most frequently in this thread from a call center perspective:

Powercode- Does a great job of network management and at giving you a
history of customer's quality of service, weak in billing and in trouble
ticket management.

Platypus/Wombat- Does a solid job at billing, no network management
tools and weak in trouble ticketing and customer information.

The network management in Powercode may make it worth the price,
but it is much more expensive.  We actually developed our own ticketing
system with APIs that talk to  both Powercode and Platypus as well as
several other systems because none of them had a robust enough trouble
ticketing system to really do the job.  If you want to take a look at it
hit me off list.

-Layne

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Behalf Of Sara Gray
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:36 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
software
that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

Sara





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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Justin Wilson
The things I have seen is importing the codes back into the software.
Maybe it¹s on the software side, not on the authorize.net side. I am not a
programmer by any means.  If I am basing my accounts receivable on software
I personally want some sort of support behind it.  Not just ³some guy².  If
you have multiple people you can call for an Open source solution, such as
freeside, that is better.  I have heard more than one case where a
programmer left a company and the company spent the next 6 months re-working
the code.  If you have the resources that is fine.   I am just saying I
would want someone to call and be able to say ³This isn¹t working fix it.  I
am going to go install some customers while you are fixing it².

Commercial solutions can be expensive.  So can customizing and
supporting a ³Free² one.  If someone is looking to do just billign then
quickbooks or just about any other such program should suffice.

Back to the call tracking. I was a big fan of perldesk.  In the process
of getting another license for a project now.

Justin
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From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:51:37 -0500
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:46, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

To me any billing software needs to have an active development behind
 it.  Places like authorize.net and the like make changes that break API
 enabled apps on a semi-regular basis.


What kind of API changes are you referring to? Ten years ago, I set up a
small Web site/store for a friend, using authorize.net; I've had to make
exactly one change in that whole time to the credit card processing side of
things.

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I just looked at the database and saw the version log.  I think it was
August 2008 when we first bought Powercode.

Never had an issue with licenses.  They come up with a new version
about once a week, maybe two.  Recently bug fixes and small changes.

Features are a different issue, though.

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote:
 Cliff,

 Powercode v9 had a major price tag increase with it.  Are you comparing
 Powercode v9 pricing to Azotel?  Or the old Powercode v8?

 - Original Message -
 From: Cliff w...@eccentrixtechnologies.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 When I priced it out for replacing Powercode, I think it was 1.5X the cost.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 How does Azotel stand up to Powercode?  Powercode has been there for years,
 but they did stagnate for awhile.

 Azotel doesn't look nearly as full-featured as Powercode.

 So then how does the pricing compare?

 - Original Message -
 From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


    Azotel is a good solution. Ties into billing/provisioning/etc.
 www.wispsolutions.com . They are a WISPA member so it¹s always good to
 support members. Azotel is much more involved than simple ticketing as it is
 billing and more but it¹s one screen to look at.

    Otherwise we have implemented the following in the past.

    Perldesk ­ www.perldesk.com
    osTicket ­ www.osticket.com

    Justin

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 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:35:33 -0500
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good software
 that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked at a few but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Jon Auer
Just a shout out saying we use Plat and have it automatically turning
people on/off as well.
Right now our customer service side uses Wombat and Network Operations
uses Jira for tickets but we are looking at merging both of them onto
RT.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Plat has a radius integration that will do that, and we have some of 
 our own custom things that we are working on to make it do some other things 
 we want it to do.  It's not very much work to get it implemented if you know 
 what you are doing... but if you are wanting a drop in solution maybe 
 Powercode will do what you want.  I know I wasn't going to pay more than 
 .10/customer/month.  It also integrates well with IPPay.  Honestly, the money 
 I am saving over a traditional merchant account by switching to IPPay is more 
 than paying for Platypus.

 Their API is very open and they will let you do about anything with the 
 software.  I don't know if Powercode is all web based or not, but having a 
 client32 application is pretty nice to have for my techs/billing people.  In 
 addition, it tracks our sales commissions, customer referrals, and more.  I'm 
 not trying to sell it, but just giving an explanation on why I'm using it.  I 
 reviewed powercode, and the price blew me away.  1400 customers was almost 
 $2000 per month.  Almost in one month I pay for Wombat/Platypus for a year.

 Nothing did everything we wanted, so we looked at cost and how do we 
 customize it to our needs.  Platypus/Wombat fit the bill.  They even came out 
 and did a two day training seminar for my whole company, made sure the 
 software/system was completely setup correctly for $1k/day.  I probably could 
 have figured it out, but I wanted to make sure someone was training my people 
 correctly + I didn't have the time.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 If you have a developer to make things work together, that's a great option.

 Powercode's alternative is to shut the customer off and have them pay their 
 bill.  I'd rather that then a phone call.  Just my opinion.

 Chuck - does your Wombat/Platypus shut customers off, track equipment, etc or 
 is it simply a billing system?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue 
 that counts.
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 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Platypus does it as well... $250/mth for under 5k customers...

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Sara Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:24 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information.  Can anyone suggest a good
 software that can do this.  Id like to have web access.  I've looked
 at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
 others have used and like.  Thanks for any input.

 Sara




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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I hear you on the Just fix it part.

Powercode's upgrades are crazy simple...

The main page indicates that there is an upgrade available...
You check out the Release Notes...
Notify for everyone to logout of Powercode...
You click on the Upgrade link, and it queues the auto-in-place upgrade for 
the next 5-minute cycle and scripts do the rest.
Upgrade is downloaded and installed...server reboots and you're done.

- Original Message - 
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; David E. Smith 
d...@mvn.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


The things I have seen is importing the codes back into the software.
Maybe it¹s on the software side, not on the authorize.net side. I am not a
programmer by any means.  If I am basing my accounts receivable on software
I personally want some sort of support behind it.  Not just ³some guy².  If
you have multiple people you can call for an Open source solution, such as
freeside, that is better.  I have heard more than one case where a
programmer left a company and the company spent the next 6 months re-working
the code.  If you have the resources that is fine.   I am just saying I
would want someone to call and be able to say ³This isn¹t working fix it.  I
am going to go install some customers while you are fixing it².

Commercial solutions can be expensive.  So can customizing and
supporting a ³Free² one.  If someone is looking to do just billign then
quickbooks or just about any other such program should suffice.

Back to the call tracking. I was a big fan of perldesk.  In the process
of getting another license for a project now.

Justin
-- 
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http://www.mtin.net/blog
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From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:51:37 -0500
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:46, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

To me any billing software needs to have an active development behind
 it.  Places like authorize.net and the like make changes that break API
 enabled apps on a semi-regular basis.


What kind of API changes are you referring to? Ten years ago, I set up a
small Web site/store for a friend, using authorize.net; I've had to make
exactly one change in that whole time to the credit card processing side of
things.

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I just do it in the middle of the night or weekend following an email
to everyone I'm doing it and when it's complete.

Wait for people to logout?  Not for me.

On 5/11/10, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote:
 I hear you on the Just fix it part.

 Powercode's upgrades are crazy simple...

 The main page indicates that there is an upgrade available...
 You check out the Release Notes...
 Notify for everyone to logout of Powercode...
 You click on the Upgrade link, and it queues the auto-in-place upgrade for
 the next 5-minute cycle and scripts do the rest.
 Upgrade is downloaded and installed...server reboots and you're done.

 - Original Message -
 From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; David E. Smith
 d...@mvn.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 The things I have seen is importing the codes back into the software.
 Maybe it¹s on the software side, not on the authorize.net side. I am not a
 programmer by any means.  If I am basing my accounts receivable on software
 I personally want some sort of support behind it.  Not just ³some guy².  If
 you have multiple people you can call for an Open source solution, such as
 freeside, that is better.  I have heard more than one case where a
 programmer left a company and the company spent the next 6 months re-working
 the code.  If you have the resources that is fine.   I am just saying I
 would want someone to call and be able to say ³This isn¹t working fix it.  I
 am going to go install some customers while you are fixing it².

 Commercial solutions can be expensive.  So can customizing and
 supporting a ³Free² one.  If someone is looking to do just billign then
 quickbooks or just about any other such program should suffice.

 Back to the call tracking. I was a big fan of perldesk.  In the process
 of getting another license for a project now.

 Justin
 --
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
 http://www.mtin.net/blog
 Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support



 From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:51:37 -0500
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 16:46, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

To me any billing software needs to have an active development behind
 it.  Places like authorize.net and the like make changes that break API
 enabled apps on a semi-regular basis.


 What kind of API changes are you referring to? Ten years ago, I set up a
 small Web site/store for a friend, using authorize.net; I've had to make
 exactly one change in that whole time to the credit card processing side of
 things.

 David Smith
 MVN.net


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Chuck Hogg
We are using the Platypus database directly.  Since it is only the first
month, we are still learning the tricks of it.  I would say asking me
that question in 3-6 months would be more appropriate.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

Chuck, how problem-free is your solution?

One of the things that I was afraid about a custom in-house solution,
even if it's just modifying a base platform, was the recurring cost of
having someone dealing with its issues, things getting out of sync, etc.

The pricing for Powercode is steep, absolutely 100% no question about
it...so you have to wrap your mind around what it's saving you to fathom
a value.

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


Wombat/Plat has a radius integration that will do that, and we have some
of 
our own custom things that we are working on to make it do some other
things 
we want it to do.  It's not very much work to get it implemented if you
know 
what you are doing... but if you are wanting a drop in solution maybe 
Powercode will do what you want.  I know I wasn't going to pay more than

.10/customer/month.  It also integrates well with IPPay.  Honestly, the 
money I am saving over a traditional merchant account by switching to
IPPay 
is more than paying for Platypus.

Their API is very open and they will let you do about anything with the 
software.  I don't know if Powercode is all web based or not, but having
a 
client32 application is pretty nice to have for my techs/billing people.
In 
addition, it tracks our sales commissions, customer referrals, and more.

I'm not trying to sell it, but just giving an explanation on why I'm
using 
it.  I reviewed powercode, and the price blew me away.  1400 customers
was 
almost $2000 per month.  Almost in one month I pay for Wombat/Platypus
for a 
year.

Nothing did everything we wanted, so we looked at cost and how do we 
customize it to our needs.  Platypus/Wombat fit the bill.  They even
came 
out and did a two day training seminar for my whole company, made sure
the 
software/system was completely setup correctly for $1k/day.  I probably 
could have figured it out, but I wanted to make sure someone was
training my 
people correctly + I didn't have the time.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

If you have a developer to make things work together, that's a great
option.

Powercode's alternative is to shut the customer off and have them pay
their 
bill.  I'd rather that then a phone call.  Just my opinion.

Chuck - does your Wombat/Platypus shut customers off, track equipment,
etc 
or is it simply a billing system?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue 
that counts.
--- Winston Churchill



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Wombat/Platypus does it as well... $250/mth for under 5k customers...

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Sara Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:24 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 How much does powercode cost?


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 I use Powercode.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets,
 appointments, and customer information. Can anyone suggest a good
 software that can do this. Id like to have web access. I've looked
 at a few
 but
 have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of
 what
 others have used and like. Thanks for any input.

 Sara

Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
At first glance it looks like everyone is getting what they're paying for. 
Higher pricing for one-stop-shopping, lower for 
piece-it-together-yourself-and-make-it-work.

IMHO, the v8 (old) Powercode pricing was WAY too low.  It was something like 
$225/mo for 700 subs.  They needed more $$ for the amount of effort that 
would be needed to make Powercode a great product.  Now that said, the 
Powercode v9 pricing is pretty high.  It has me continually questioning its 
worth.  I don't like feeling that way.  I have to really come to terms with 
it and remind myself what it does for us...in a nutshell...it saves people 
time.

I'm not that involved in my business anymore other than financially.  My 
first 300 subs I installed myself.  Merged with a partner a couple years ago 
to gain a couple hundred more customers.  Last 2 years we've put a few 
hundred more on.  Stepped out of it last year to take the cash flow burden 
of my income away to allow it to thrive.  Best decision I've made in awhile. 
Now we have several thousand dollars available for fast growth.

Powercode is definitely pay-to-play.  However, it gives me peace of mind to 
know that we have a system that is commercially supported.  I don't want one 
employee having a strangle-hold on me because he's the only one who knows 
how to do X, Y, or Z.  I'll likely not stray from that philosophy, but 
if there's another competing product I'm all ears...

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 We are using the Platypus database directly.  Since it is only the first
 month, we are still learning the tricks of it.  I would say asking me
 that question in 3-6 months would be more appropriate.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:58 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 Chuck, how problem-free is your solution?

 One of the things that I was afraid about a custom in-house solution,
 even if it's just modifying a base platform, was the recurring cost of
 having someone dealing with its issues, things getting out of sync, etc.

 The pricing for Powercode is steep, absolutely 100% no question about
 it...so you have to wrap your mind around what it's saving you to fathom
 a value.

 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software


 Wombat/Plat has a radius integration that will do that, and we have some
 of
 our own custom things that we are working on to make it do some other
 things
 we want it to do.  It's not very much work to get it implemented if you
 know
 what you are doing... but if you are wanting a drop in solution maybe
 Powercode will do what you want.  I know I wasn't going to pay more than

 .10/customer/month.  It also integrates well with IPPay.  Honestly, the
 money I am saving over a traditional merchant account by switching to
 IPPay
 is more than paying for Platypus.

 Their API is very open and they will let you do about anything with the
 software.  I don't know if Powercode is all web based or not, but having
 a
 client32 application is pretty nice to have for my techs/billing people.
 In
 addition, it tracks our sales commissions, customer referrals, and more.

 I'm not trying to sell it, but just giving an explanation on why I'm
 using
 it.  I reviewed powercode, and the price blew me away.  1400 customers
 was
 almost $2000 per month.  Almost in one month I pay for Wombat/Platypus
 for a
 year.

 Nothing did everything we wanted, so we looked at cost and how do we
 customize it to our needs.  Platypus/Wombat fit the bill.  They even
 came
 out and did a two day training seminar for my whole company, made sure
 the
 software/system was completely setup correctly for $1k/day.  I probably
 could have figured it out, but I wanted to make sure someone was
 training my
 people correctly + I didn't have the time.

 Regards,
 Chuck Hogg
 Shelby Broadband
 502-722-9292
 ch...@shelbybb.com
 http://www.shelbybb.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software

 If you have a developer to make things work together, that's a great
 option.

 Powercode's alternative is to shut the customer off and have them pay
 their
 bill.  I'd rather that then a phone call.  Just my opinion.

 Chuck - does your Wombat/Platypus shut customers