Re: [WISPA] Cisco POE

[wispa]

I guess I wouldn’t need that one. They provided me with 2 of them, would need 4 
more. Since its not my gear and I am ordering it, was all I was thinking. If 
something cheaper works that’s fine with me. thanks

From: ralphli...@bsrg.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:14 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco POE

Do you HAVE to have the Ethernet POE? I use them (have one in my hand now) but 
if I have local power I use the much cheaper AIR-PWR-B=  They are about 8 bucks 
all over the place.

The 3 ways I power a 1602:

POE Switch
Plug in power supply that connects to AP AIR-PWR-B=
True POE injector.  (the one you mention) 341-0212-01

Ralph



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  Subject: [WISPA] Cisco POE


  Anyone know where you can get the 341-0212-01 for the new Aironet 1602 at a 
decent price? We are doing a project that they provided the equipment through a 
grant. They provided one big cisco switch that does POE, but we have wireless 
bridges to other buildings and no POE switches at the remote sites. Prices I 
found range from $40 to $80.

  The dumb thing about this project is they accepted us doing a UniFi system 
and a Mikrotik router, then all this cisco stuff showed up, however they are 
going to honor my proposal to install their stuff

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco POE

[ralphlists]

Do you HAVE to have the Ethernet POE? I use them (have one in my hand now) but 
if I have local power I use the much cheaper AIR-PWR-B=  They are about 8 bucks 
all over the place.  
   
The 3 ways I power a 1602:  
   
POE Switch  
Plug in power supply that connects to AP AIR-PWR-B=  
True POE injector.  (the one you mention) 341-0212-01  
   
Ralph
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Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:53:45 -0400
Subject: [WISPA] Cisco POE

  
  
  
Anyone know where you can get the 341-0212-01 for the new Aironet 1602 at a 
decent price? We are doing a project that they provided the equipment through a 
grant. They provided one big cisco switch that does POE, but we have wireless 
bridges to other buildings and no POE switches at the remote sites. Prices I 
found range from $40 to $80.  
   
The dumb thing about this project is they accepted us doing a UniFi system and 
a Mikrotik router, then all this cisco stuff showed up, however they are going 
to honor my proposal to install their stuff  
   
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

Mikrotik concentrators

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you
using?

On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell  wrote:
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
> everything..
>
>
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
>
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

Why would it work with all the 700 customers and not for this customer
with this router? Is it the handshake? He has 3 choices for
authentication and he's tried all of them except for PAP because we
don't allow PAP. PAP / CHAP / MSCHAP

IAS responds with event log entry 

Reason-Code = 3
Reason = The Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) request
was not properly formatted.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you
using?

On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell  wrote:
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
> everything..
>
>
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
>
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

Correction. There's no mac address list. We authenticate through IAS.
Run-on sentence for the win.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

It relays it to our IAS. Theres no mac access list for router only for
the CPEs.



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just 
authenticating from the MAC access list?


Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their 
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that 
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why

> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and 
> everything..
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've 
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Andy Trimmell]

It relays it to our IAS. Theres no mac access list for router only for
the CPEs.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Pat O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just 
authenticating from the MAC access list?


Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their 
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that 
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why

> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and 
> everything..
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've 
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Jeremy Parr]

Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you using?

On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell  wrote:
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
> everything..
>
>
>
> I get "authentication failed - radius timeout"
>
>
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

[Pat O'Connor]

Is he actually authenticating from a radius server or is he just 
authenticating from the MAC access list?


Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their 
> connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that 
> worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can’t figure out why 
> their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won’t connect. Same credentials and 
> everything……
>
> I get “authentication failed – radius timeout”
>
> Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I’ve 
> had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> Network Administrator
>
> atrimm...@precisionds.com
>
> 317.831.3000 ext 211
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Deal of the Day $10 Deploying License Free Wireless

[Blake Bowers]

17.63 on Amazon gets you a used copy, 30 bucks gets you a
brand new.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Cisco Deal of the Day $10 Deploying License Free Wireless


   Anyone who does not not have Jack Unger¹s book now is your time to get
it.  It is the eBook and the offer is only good for 24 hours.  Cost is
$9.99. Normally this is a $60 book.

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Deal of the Day $10 Deploying License Free Wireless

[RickG]

I waiting on his new one. Jack?

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

>Anyone who does not not have Jack Unger’s book now is your time to get
> it.  It is the eBook and the offer is only good for 24 hours.  Cost is
> $9.99. Normally this is a $60 book.
>
> *http://www.ciscopress.com/deals/index.asp
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 7204-VXR

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Thanks Josh. It was a pain but worth it!

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Josh
Luthman wrote:
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>> If you're interested, please hit me offline. -RickG
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 7204-VXR

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Congrats! :)

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco IOS licensing policies (was: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet cards)

[Matt Liotta]

On Jun 3, 2009, at 6:26 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

> So you actually don't have any documentation that resale of Cisco gear
> transfer the IOS license, thus making the gear usable (in Cisco's  
> eyes)
> to the second-hand buyer. Gotcha.
>
Do you have any actual documentation where Cisco successfully sued the  
parties involved in a resale? Gotcha

> While I believe they'd be in the legal right to start shutting down  
> eBay
> auctions and resale businesses, they know it'd be a PR nightmare.
>
What gives you that belief? What legal concept would allow for such a  
thing?

> Cisco likely turns a blind eye to this sort of thing for the same  
> reason
> many software companies are somewhat ambivalent about the rampant  
> piracy
> of their software. They don't lose that much in real sales (John Q.
> Highschooler wasn't about to spend $1000 on Photoshop anyway), and  
> if he
> has a talent for art and gets a Real Job, it's very likely his  
> employer
> will insist on using properly-licensed software instead of that  
> pirated
> copy that came with a keygen and a bonus Trojan.
>
Cisco doesn't turn a blind eye at all. They don't want a grey market  
for their gear. They have written a license, created a policy, and  
have put forth various efforts to convince people against the resell  
of their product. The fact that millions of dollars worth of Cisco  
resale goes on tells how ineffective these techniques are. Of course,  
the best part is that their policy's biggest advocates are their  
competitors. Too often these competitors find their new products  
priced similar to used Cisco products. And the used Cisco product  
still wins! Not on merit or anything, but Cisco owns the majority of  
the market and they control the majority of the labor pool who makes  
product decisions.

Anyway... I don't stand to benefit by scaring people away from Cisco.  
I am also not stuck using non-Cisco gear in my network where I feel  
some need to attack Cisco. Cisco gear may not be the best on the  
market in a very category, but it is hard to argue the gear isn't good  
and effective. It is also hard to reconcile the fact that there is a  
huge labor pool of Cisco trained and experienced professionals. Any  
successful business knows that people are the hardest part when one  
tries to scale a business. Picking Cisco makes that easier.

Now on to the actual argument. Can Cisco sell a piece of hardware with  
included software required to run it, force the owner of the hardware  
to accept a license in order to use it and subsequently tie a future  
owner of the hardware that acquires it from the original owner to the  
terms of the license? No. The license is simply unenforceable. There  
is a ton of case law to support this and Cisco knows it. Further,  
their suggestion that they have these rights, but thus far have failed  
to enforce them only furthers their inability to enforce the license  
terms.

Does that mean you can move software images from device to device  
without a license? No. Does that mean you can buy some router and  
install any software you want on it without a license? No.

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco IOS licensing policies

[Randy Cosby]

And if you do have a used Cisco and you need some help, guess what?

They'll usually do their best to help you!  They figure down the road, 
you're going to need to upgrade and purchase more of their equipment, 
licenses, etc.  Leave the customer (or future customer) with warm 
fuzzies, and they'll come back.

What a concept.

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David E. Smith wrote:
> Jesse Preiner wrote:
>
>   
>> I just know that we and many companies like us would have been sued by
>> Cisco and other manufactures long ago and a secondary market would not
>> exist.  
>> 
>
> So you actually don't have any documentation that resale of Cisco gear 
> transfer the IOS license, thus making the gear usable (in Cisco's eyes) 
> to the second-hand buyer. Gotcha.
>
> While I believe they'd be in the legal right to start shutting down eBay 
> auctions and resale businesses, they know it'd be a PR nightmare.
>
> Cisco likely turns a blind eye to this sort of thing for the same reason 
> many software companies are somewhat ambivalent about the rampant piracy 
> of their software. They don't lose that much in real sales (John Q. 
> Highschooler wasn't about to spend $1000 on Photoshop anyway), and if he 
> has a talent for art and gets a Real Job, it's very likely his employer 
> will insist on using properly-licensed software instead of that pirated 
> copy that came with a keygen and a bonus Trojan.
>
> David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 1710 and 3600 routers

[Paul Kralovec]

How much for the 1710 and 3600?

Where are they coming from and is shipping included?

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It was my error, e&m, not e to m.  Ear to Mouth.  Basically just
makes an analog pipe.


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>I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 1710 and 3600 routers

[Blake Bowers]

It was my error, e&m, not e to m.  Ear to Mouth.  Basically just
makes an analog pipe.


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco 1710 and 3600 routers


>I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?
>
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>> I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
>> that they want to sell.  A couple of 3600 series routers, and
>> E to M cards.
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 1710 and 3600 routers

[John Thomas]

That's E&M, it's used to connect to analog voice stuff, in place of FXS 
or FXO cards.

John

Matt Jenkins wrote:
> I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?
>
> Blake Bowers wrote:
>   
>> I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
>> that they want to sell.  A couple of 3600 series routers, and 
>> E to M cards.
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 1710 and 3600 routers

[lakeland]

An E&M circuit is a transmit and receive audio pair ( ear and mouth to the old 
bell guys). Usually a dedicated circuit between 2 points. Put audio into the tx 
pair and it comes out the receive pair on the other end
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:33:51 
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I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?

Blake Bowers wrote:
> I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
> that they want to sell.  A couple of 3600 series routers, and 
> E to M cards.
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 1710 and 3600 routers

[Matt Jenkins]

I tried to look it up but I cannot figure it out. Whats an E to M card?

Blake Bowers wrote:
> I have a local non-profit that has a PILE of 1710 and 1750 routers
> that they want to sell.  A couple of 3600 series routers, and 
> E to M cards.
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Re: [WISPA] cisco switch help

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

No biggy.  Shoot us a call anytime!

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> Thanks Dennis!  You are my hero!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] cisco switch help
>
>
>   
>> Did you setup the port you are on, to the right VLAN, or configure your
>> NIC on your laptop for that VLAN?
>>
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>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I need some help getting an ip address onto a Catalyst 2950 switch.  I 
>>> have
>>> the ip assigned to a vlan port but can't get to it via my laptop
>>>
>>> Give me a call at 509.982.2181 or shoot me a number that I can call 
>>> please.
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Re: [WISPA] cisco switch help

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Thanks Dennis!  You are my hero!
marlon

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> Did you setup the port you are on, to the right VLAN, or configure your
> NIC on your laptop for that VLAN?
>
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> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/>
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>
> Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I need some help getting an ip address onto a Catalyst 2950 switch.  I 
>> have
>> the ip assigned to a vlan port but can't get to it via my laptop
>>
>> Give me a call at 509.982.2181 or shoot me a number that I can call 
>> please.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> marlon
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Re: [WISPA] cisco switch help

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

Did you setup the port you are on, to the right VLAN, or configure your 
NIC on your laptop for that VLAN? 

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Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I need some help getting an ip address onto a Catalyst 2950 switch.  I have 
> the ip assigned to a vlan port but can't get to it via my laptop
>
> Give me a call at 509.982.2181 or shoot me a number that I can call please.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Mike Hammett]

You made it into an MT email over night!

I can forward to you if you didn't get it.


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From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

> Well, we can... But we only use them as POP routers  We have a
> couple with Metro Ethernet Fiber Backhauls running 100 mbps to our Core
> facility, doing MPLS / VPLS ... No wireless stuff, we are a Moto shop
>
>
> Those are RB1000 btw ...
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:14 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>
> How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?
>
> On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.
>> You should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels
>> though
>> :)
>>
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>> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270
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>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting
>>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer
>
>>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
>>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
>>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are
>>>> the same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop"
> issues.
>>>>
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>>>> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270
>>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>
>>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the
>
>>>>> vlan
>>>>>
>>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now...
>>>>> but the
>>>>>
>>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep
>>>>> from having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN,
>>>>> the spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does
>
>>>>> block the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new
>>>>> VLAN never gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is
>
>>>>>> the status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also
>>>>>> trunking VLANs active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>&

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Matt Liotta]

Is there are switch where you accidently connected VLAN 150 to VLAN 1?  
For example, a VLAN 150 access port connected to the default VLAN of  
another switch. You may want to apply BDPU filters to certain ports to  
segment the network until you track down the issue. Any port with a  
BDPU filter will disable spanning tree between the interconnected  
switches on that port.

-Matt

On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:12 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Ok. When I bring the ring back up, the switch we have running  
> spanning tree changes VLAN1 to "blocking" on one port, but the  
> VLAN150 still shows "forwarding"... and creates a loop on VLAN150.  
> Where do I start? I'm not sure what to even look for or how to  
> troubleshoot this?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>
>> Check and see if you are running PVST, which runs spanning tree on
>> each VLAN.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the
>>> vlan
>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but
>>> the
>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep  
>>> from
>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does  
>>> block
>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN
>>> never
>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is
>>>> the
>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also  
>>>> trunking
>>>> VLANs active.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
>>>> allowed
>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all"  
>>>> and it
>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>>
>>>>I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>>>> via the
>>>>GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>>>> trying
>>>>to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>>>> ports so
>>>>they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>>>> setup in
>>>>VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>>>> trunking ports.
>>>>There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>>>
>>>>I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>>>> directly
>>>>connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>>>>
>>>>What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>>Travis
>>>>Microserv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Matt Liotta]

Not sure; I know it can be done on the 3560s. I think it is just an  
IOS feature.

-Matt

On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

> Matt,
>
> This is for the 3550 right ... Cant be done on the 2950's?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> On
> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:26 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>
> Just be careful if they want to do there own VLANs. If they do you  
> will
> need to dot1q tunnel them. Cisco has made it easy in that all you have
> to do in addition to what you do now with a single VLAN is add the
> switchport dot1q tunnel command to their interface on either side.
> The VLAN stack takes another 4 bytes so you will need to raise your
> backbone's MTU to at least 1504 to support your customer running a  
> 1500
> MTU.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting
>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer
>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are  
>>> the
>
>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop"
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270
>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>
>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the
>>>> vlan setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working
>>>> now...
>>>> but the
>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep
>>>> from having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN,
>>>> the spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does
>>>> block the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new
>>>> VLAN never gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is
>>>>> the status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also
>>>>> trunking VLANs active.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless-
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
>>>>> allowed
>>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all"
>>>>> and it
>>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>>>>&g

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Ok. When I bring the ring back up, the switch we have running spanning
tree changes VLAN1 to "blocking" on one port, but the VLAN150 still
shows "forwarding"... and creates a loop on VLAN150. Where do I start?
I'm not sure what to even look for or how to troubleshoot this?

Travis
Microserv

Matt Liotta wrote:

  Check and see if you are running PVST, which runs spanning tree on  
each VLAN.

-Matt

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

  
  
Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the  
vlan
setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but  
the
problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from
having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block
the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN  
never
gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.

Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
anything that I missed to make it work...

Travis
Microserv

Eric Rogers wrote:


  Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is  
the
status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
VLANs active.



Eric



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help



Hi,

By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are  
allowed
(I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
did not display on the sho conf afterward).

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Shoemaker wrote:

Travis Johnson wrote:


	Hi,
	
	I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
	
	I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
via the
	GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
trying
	to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
ports so
	they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
setup in
	VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
trunking ports.
	There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
	
	I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
directly
	connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
	
	What am I missing?
	
	Travis
	Microserv
	
	
	


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Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:

switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx

A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.





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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Gino Villarini]

We are using HP Carrier Servers on our Core, Dual Xenon 2.8 Ghz, Dual
PS, 2 GB Intel Nics with 3 PCIX 3 Port GB Cards for a total of 14 ports
per Router 


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

I answer with a question.  What makes you think they couldn't do 100
megs? 
I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9 gigabits and the
latest series does 8 gigabits.

I don't know how strong Mikrotik's VPLS offering is, but from what I've
heard, VPLS is the way to go.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:13 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

> How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?
>
> On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.
You
>> should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels
though
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>> 314-735-0270
>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>
>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting
>>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular
customer
>>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
>>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
>>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are
the
>>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" 
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>>>> 314-735-0270
>>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>
>>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line
Training
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have
the 
>>>>> vlan
>>>>>
>>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now...
but 
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep
from
>>>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
>>>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does
block
>>>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN 
>>>>> never
>>>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what
is 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also
trunking
>>>>>> VLANs active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, Decem

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Mike Hammett]

I answer with a question.  What makes you think they couldn't do 100 megs? 
I believe the original PowerRouter series does 5.9 gigabits and the latest 
series does 8 gigabits.

I don't know how strong Mikrotik's VPLS offering is, but from what I've 
heard, VPLS is the way to go.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:13 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

> How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?
>
> On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.  You
>> should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels though
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>> 314-735-0270
>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>
>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting
>>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer
>>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
>>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
>>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the
>>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" 
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>>>> 314-735-0270
>>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>
>>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the 
>>>>> vlan
>>>>>
>>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but 
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from
>>>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
>>>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block
>>>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN 
>>>>> never
>>>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
>>>>>> VLANs active.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk 

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Gino Villarini]

Well, we can... But we only use them as POP routers  We have a
couple with Metro Ethernet Fiber Backhauls running 100 mbps to our Core
facility, doing MPLS / VPLS ... No wireless stuff, we are a Moto shop


Those are RB1000 btw ... 


Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?

On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.  
> You should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels 
> though
> :)
>
> --
> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link 
> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 
> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>
> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>
>
>
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting 
>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer

>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No 
>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are 
>>> the same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop"
issues.
>>>
>>> --
>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link 
>>> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 
>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>
>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the

>>>> vlan
>>>>
>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... 
>>>> but the
>>>>
>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep 
>>>> from having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, 
>>>> the spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does

>>>> block the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new 
>>>> VLAN never gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is

>>>>> the status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also 
>>>>> trunking VLANs active.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are 
>>>>> allowed (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan 
>>>>> all" and it did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I currently have 

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Josh Luthman]

How can you possibly get 100 megs with Mikrotik?

On 12/9/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.  You
> should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels though
> :)
>
> --
> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
> 314-735-0270
> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>
> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>
>
>
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting
>> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer
>> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
>> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
>>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the
>>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" issues.
>>>
>>> --
>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>>> 314-735-0270
>>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>
>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the vlan
>>>>
>>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but the
>>>>
>>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from
>>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
>>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block
>>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN never
>>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is the
>>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
>>>>> VLANs active.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
>>>>> allowed
>>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
>>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>>>>> via the
>>>>>   GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>>>>> trying
>>>>>   to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>>>>> ports so
>>>>>   they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>>>>> setup in
>>>>>   VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>>>>> trunking ports.
>>>>>   There are 17 ot

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Gino Villarini]

Matt, 

This is for the 3550 right ... Cant be done on the 2950's? 


Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

Just be careful if they want to do there own VLANs. If they do you will
need to dot1q tunnel them. Cisco has made it easy in that all you have
to do in addition to what you do now with a single VLAN is add the
switchport dot1q tunnel command to their interface on either side.  
The VLAN stack takes another 4 bytes so you will need to raise your
backbone's MTU to at least 1504 to support your customer running a 1500
MTU.

-Matt

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting 
> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer 
> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"
> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>
>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No 
>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the

>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop"
>> issues.
>>
>> --
>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link 
>> Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 
>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>
>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the 
>>> vlan setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working 
>>> now...
>>> but the
>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep 
>>> from having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, 
>>> the spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does 
>>> block the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new 
>>> VLAN never gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is 
>>>> the status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also 
>>>> trunking VLANs active.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are  
>>>> allowed
>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all"  
>>>> and it
>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>>
>>>>I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>>>> via the
>>>>GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>>>> trying
>>>>to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>>>> ports so
>>>>they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>>>> setup in
>>>>VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>>>> trunking ports.
>>>>There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>>>
>>>>I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>>>> directly
&g

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs]

I like the "THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT"!  :)  Nothing wrong with that.  You 
should be able to do that with some high end MTs and EoIP Tunnels though 
:) 

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Travis Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting 
> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer 
> needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent" 
> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No 
>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the 
>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" issues.
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>   
>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the vlan 
>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but the 
>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from 
>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the 
>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block 
>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN never 
>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is the
>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
>>>> VLANs active.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are allowed
>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>> 
>>>>I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>>>> via the 
>>>>GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>>>> trying 
>>>>to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>>>> ports so 
>>>>they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>>>> setup in 
>>>>VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>>>> trunking ports. 
>>>>There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>>> 
>>>>I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>>>> directly 
>>>>connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>>>> 
>>>>What am I missing?
>>>> 
>>>>Travis
>>>>Microserv
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> --

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Matt Liotta]

Just be careful if they want to do there own VLANs. If they do you  
will need to dot1q tunnel them. Cisco has made it easy in that all you  
have to do in addition to what you do now with a single VLAN is add  
the switchport dot1q tunnel command to their interface on either side.  
The VLAN stack takes another 4 bytes so you will need to raise your  
backbone's MTU to at least 1504 to support your customer running a  
1500 MTU.

-Matt

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting  
> up VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular  
> customer needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent"  
> transport... and they are paying for it... :)
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:
>>
>> Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
>> configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the
>> same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop"  
>> issues.
>>
>> --
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>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>> 314-735-0270
>> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>
>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have  
>>> the vlan
>>> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now...  
>>> but the
>>> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep  
>>> from
>>> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
>>> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does  
>>> block
>>> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN  
>>> never
>>> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
>>> anything that I missed to make it work...
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what  
>>>> is the
>>>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also  
>>>> trunking
>>>> VLANs active.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are  
>>>> allowed
>>>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all"  
>>>> and it
>>>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>> Microserv
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>>>
>>>>I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>>>> via the
>>>>GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>>>> trying
>>>>to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>>>> ports so
>>>>they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>>>> setup in
>>>>VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>>>> trunking ports.
>>>>There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>>>
>>>>I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>>>> directly
>>>>connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>>>>
>>>>What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>>Travis
>>>>Microserv
>&

Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Matt Liotta]

Check and see if you are running PVST, which runs spanning tree on  
each VLAN.

-Matt

On Dec 9, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the  
> vlan
> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but  
> the
> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from
> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the
> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block
> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN  
> never
> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>
> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find
> anything that I missed to make it work...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Eric Rogers wrote:
>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is  
>> the
>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
>> VLANs active.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are  
>> allowed
>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Hi,
>>  
>>  I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>  
>>  I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>> via the
>>  GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>> trying
>>  to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>> ports so
>>  they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>> setup in
>>  VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>> trunking ports.
>>  There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>  
>>  I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>> directly
>>  connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>>  
>>  What am I missing?
>>  
>>  Travis
>>  Microserv
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
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>> Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:
>>
>> switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx
>>
>> A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Gino Villarini]

VPLS all the way!

WE used to do it on L2 with Cisco, just like you... After more than 80
circuits like this, most of them multi site... We area migrating to
Mikrotik MPLS/VPLS and loving it!

BTW on Cisco switches you have to define STP per Vlan, don't ask for the
command line... We use the Cisco GUI 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No
configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the
same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" issues.

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Travis Johnson wrote:
> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the
vlan 
> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but
the 
> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from

> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the 
> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block 
> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN
never 
> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>
> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
> anything that I missed to make it work...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Eric Rogers wrote:
>   
>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is
the
>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
>> VLANs active.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
allowed
>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: 
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>   
>>
>>  Hi,
>>   
>>  I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>   
>>  I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>> via the 
>>  GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>> trying 
>>  to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>> ports so 
>>  they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>> setup in 
>>  VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>> trunking ports. 
>>  There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>   
>>  I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>> directly 
>>  connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>>   
>>  What am I missing?
>>   
>>  Travis
>>  Microserv
>>   
>>   
>>  
>>

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>> Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:
>>  
>> switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx
>>  
>> A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.
>>  
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

Normally that is what we do... using Cisco ASA firewalls and setting up
VPN tunnels for the customers... however, this particular customer
needs the full 100Mbps between the ports and "transparent" transport...
and they are paying for it... :)

Travis
Microserv

Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote:

  Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No 
configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the 
same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" issues.

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Travis Johnson wrote:
  
  
Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the vlan 
setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but the 
problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from 
having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the 
spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block 
the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN never 
gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.

Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
anything that I missed to make it work...

Travis
Microserv

Eric Rogers wrote:
  


  Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is the
status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
VLANs active.

 

Eric

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

 

Hi,

By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are allowed
(I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
did not display on the sho conf afterward).

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Shoemaker wrote: 

Travis Johnson wrote:
  

	Hi,
	 
	I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
	 
	I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
via the 
	GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
trying 
	to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
ports so 
	they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
setup in 
	VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
trunking ports. 
	There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
	 
	I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
directly 
	connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
	 
	What am I missing?
	 
	Travis
	Microserv
	 
	 
	


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Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:
 
switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx
 
A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.
 
  



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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs]

Just a FYI, I would just create a tunnel between the two sites.  No 
configuration on your backend network, bandwidth restrictions are the 
same as internet traffic typically, etc.  Simpler, and no "loop" issues.

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Travis Johnson wrote:
> Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the vlan 
> setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but the 
> problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from 
> having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the 
> spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block 
> the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN never 
> gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.
>
> Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
> anything that I missed to make it work...
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Eric Rogers wrote:
>   
>> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is the
>> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
>> VLANs active.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are allowed
>> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
>> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: 
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>   
>>
>>  Hi,
>>   
>>  I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>>   
>>  I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
>> via the 
>>  GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
>> trying 
>>  to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
>> ports so 
>>  they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
>> setup in 
>>  VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
>> trunking ports. 
>>  There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>>   
>>  I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
>> directly 
>>  connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>>   
>>  What am I missing?
>>   
>>  Travis
>>  Microserv
>>   
>>   
>>  
>> 
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>> Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:
>>  
>> switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx
>>  
>> A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.
>>  
>>   
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Ok... found the original problem... a few switches did not have the vlan 
setup in the vlan database. So the VLAN is up and working now... but the 
problem is because we have a "ring", we use Spanning Tree to keep from 
having a loop in the network. But when we bring up the VLAN, the 
spanning-tree does not start blocking the VLAN traffic. It does block 
the "normal" VLAN1 traffic (like it always has), but the new VLAN never 
gets "blocked", so it creates a loop around the ring.

Am I missing something? I've checked the settings and can't find 
anything that I missed to make it work...

Travis
Microserv

Eric Rogers wrote:
> Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is the
> status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
> VLANs active.
>
>  
>
> Eric
>
>  
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
> By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are allowed
> (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
> did not display on the sho conf afterward).
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Patrick Shoemaker wrote: 
>
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>   
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>
>   I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
> via the 
>   GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
> trying 
>   to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
> ports so 
>   they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
> setup in 
>   VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
> trunking ports. 
>   There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>
>   I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
> directly 
>   connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>
>   What am I missing?
>
>   Travis
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Eric Rogers]

Try a "show interface fastethernet x/y switchport" and see what is the
status of the port and that trunking VLANs enabled are also trunking
VLANs active.

 

Eric

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

 

Hi,

By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are allowed
(I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all" and it
did not display on the sho conf afterward).

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Shoemaker wrote: 

Travis Johnson wrote:
  

Hi,
 
I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
 
I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected
via the 
GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am
trying 
to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet
ports so 
they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch
setup in 
VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as
trunking ports. 
There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
 
I have this setup between two other offices, but they are
directly 
connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
 
What am I missing?
 
Travis
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Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:
 
switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx
 
A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.
 
  



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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

By default, when doing the switchport mode trunk, all VLAN's are
allowed (I even issued the command "switchport trunk allowed vlan all"
and it did not display on the sho conf afterward).

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Shoemaker wrote:

  Travis Johnson wrote:
  
  
Hi,

I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.

I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected via the 
GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am trying 
to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet ports so 
they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch setup in 
VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as trunking ports. 
There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.

I have this setup between two other offices, but they are directly 
connected to each other, with no other switches in between.

What am I missing?

Travis
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switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx

A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.

  






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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Jon Auer]

Have you added the VLAN to the VLAN database on all the switches
between them? (Assuming you are not usinh VTP) That's what I usually
forget.

(On 2900/3500)
# vlan database
# vlan NNN name blah
# apply
# exit

On 12/9/08, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>
> I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected via the
> GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am trying
> to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet ports so
> they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch setup in
> VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as trunking ports.
> There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>
> I have this setup between two other offices, but they are directly
> connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco VLAN help

[Patrick Shoemaker]

Travis Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need some Cisco switch VLAN help.
>
> I currently have about 60 Cisco 3500 series switches connected via the 
> GBIC ports all in a ring configuration with spanning tree. I am trying 
> to setup a VLAN for a customer between two of the FastEthernet ports so 
> they can connect their offices. I have port 5 on each switch setup in 
> VLAN105 and every GBIC port on all the switches setup as trunking ports. 
> There are 17 other cisco switches between these two.
>
> I have this setup between two other offices, but they are directly 
> connected to each other, with no other switches in between.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
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Is each trunk port in the path set to forward the VLAN with command:

switchport trunk allowed vlan xxx

A sh int for an example trunk and access port would be handy.

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

[Randy Cosby]

It was a 24v source, (up-converted from 12v), but when the batteries 
dropped to 11 v the upconverter shut off and pushed out only 11 (instead 
of 24), and yeah, it didn't work and may have corrupted something.

Randy


Adam Goodman wrote:
> I doubt you 2955 will run at 7.5 VDC. Specs indicate 18 - 32VDC. I
> would think you need a 24VDC power source and not a 12VDC. I am
> surprised it ran at 12V (or 14 on a fully charged battery)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Randy Cosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> More research proves you are probably right.  the converter we have
>> shuts down - or quits converting - at 11v.  Recent storms have let
>> batteries get that low a couple times.  Ordering a new converter today
>> that will go down to 7.5 v and adding more solar panels soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> Gino Villarini wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe is the converter? The 2955 is rated to accept 18 - 32 vdc ..
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:09 PM
>>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Cisco 2955
>>>
>>> Anyone used one of these?  Seems like a very nice, rugged switch.  We
>>> used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some
>>> serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage
>>> fluctuations.  We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering
>>> it on the 24 v side.  Replacing it with a mikrotik for now.  Curious if
>>> anyone else has tried these and if this is "normal behavior" on a solar
>>> site for this switch?
>>>
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>>> Vice President
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>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

[Adam Goodman]

I doubt you 2955 will run at 7.5 VDC. Specs indicate 18 - 32VDC. I
would think you need a 24VDC power source and not a 12VDC. I am
surprised it ran at 12V (or 14 on a fully charged battery)



On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Randy Cosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> More research proves you are probably right.  the converter we have
> shuts down - or quits converting - at 11v.  Recent storms have let
> batteries get that low a couple times.  Ordering a new converter today
> that will go down to 7.5 v and adding more solar panels soon.
>
>
>
> Randy
>
> Gino Villarini wrote:
>> Maybe is the converter? The 2955 is rated to accept 18 - 32 vdc ..
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:09 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Cisco 2955
>>
>> Anyone used one of these?  Seems like a very nice, rugged switch.  We
>> used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some
>> serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage
>> fluctuations.  We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering
>> it on the 24 v side.  Replacing it with a mikrotik for now.  Curious if
>> anyone else has tried these and if this is "normal behavior" on a solar
>> site for this switch?
>>
>> --
>> Randy Cosby
>> Vice President
>> InfoWest, Inc
>>
>> office: 435-773-6071
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

[Randy Cosby]

More research proves you are probably right.  the converter we have 
shuts down - or quits converting - at 11v.  Recent storms have let 
batteries get that low a couple times.  Ordering a new converter today 
that will go down to 7.5 v and adding more solar panels soon.



Randy

Gino Villarini wrote:
> Maybe is the converter? The 2955 is rated to accept 18 - 32 vdc .. 
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:09 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Cisco 2955
>
> Anyone used one of these?  Seems like a very nice, rugged switch.  We
> used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some
> serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage
> fluctuations.  We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering
> it on the 24 v side.  Replacing it with a mikrotik for now.  Curious if
> anyone else has tried these and if this is "normal behavior" on a solar
> site for this switch?
>
> --
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> Vice President
> InfoWest, Inc
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

[Josh Luthman]

I have no Cisco network gear of myself but I have several customers that
have gone through multiple routers and switches in the last 6 months.  Can't
give you any models specifically but I know they were in the four and five
digit price point.

Replaced by a Routerboard in case anyone is interested =)

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On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Maybe is the converter? The 2955 is rated to accept 18 - 32 vdc ..
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:09 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Cisco 2955
>
> Anyone used one of these?  Seems like a very nice, rugged switch.  We
> used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some
> serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage
> fluctuations.  We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering
> it on the 24 v side.  Replacing it with a mikrotik for now.  Curious if
> anyone else has tried these and if this is "normal behavior" on a solar
> site for this switch?
>
> --
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> Vice President
> InfoWest, Inc
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

[Gino Villarini]

Maybe is the converter? The 2955 is rated to accept 18 - 32 vdc .. 


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Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:09 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

Anyone used one of these?  Seems like a very nice, rugged switch.  We
used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some
serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage
fluctuations.  We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering
it on the 24 v side.  Replacing it with a mikrotik for now.  Curious if
anyone else has tried these and if this is "normal behavior" on a solar
site for this switch?

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

[Jerry Richardson]

I have not used one, but being a Cisco I would think that it would be
rock solid.

We've started using MOXA switches and so far rock solid. Plus having two
24VDC inputs helps me sleep at night.


 
 
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airCloud Communications

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Subject: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

Anyone used one of these?  Seems like a very nice, rugged switch.  We
used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some
serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage
fluctuations.  We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering
it on the 24 v side.  Replacing it with a mikrotik for now.  Curious if
anyone else has tried these and if this is "normal behavior" on a solar
site for this switch?

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2610

[support]

Eric,

Thank a bunch!  I'll let you know how it goes.

Jason

Eric Rogers wrote:
> This config is actually off of a Cisco 2610.  This router has a Dual WIC
> and a Single WIC.  The Single was the default gateway to another
> location that housed our internet connection.  The dual WIC was later
> used for a bonded T1 solution.  We had 4 bonded T1s before we switched
> to fiber.
>
> I have several more configs if you need.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
> Start-
> version 12.2
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> !
> hostname PDS_Router
> !
> enable secret 5 REMOVED
> enable password REMOVED
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> !
> no ip domain-lookup
> !
> call rsvp-sync
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> !
> # Dual WIC Port 0/0
> controller T1 0/0
>  framing esf
>  linecode b8zs
>  channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
> !
> # Dual WIC Port 0/1
> controller T1 0/1
>  framing esf
>  linecode b8zs
>  channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
> !
> !
> !
> interface FastEthernet0/0
>  ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.224 secondary
>  ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.224 secondary
>  ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.0
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  speed 100
>  full-duplex
> !
> # WIC 0:0 - Double WIC Port 0
> interface Serial0/0:0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  no keepalive
> !
> # WIC 0:1 - Double WIC Port 1
> interface Serial0/1:0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  no keepalive
> !
> # WIC 1:0 - Single WIC card to feed remote router
> interface Serial0/2
>  description connected to Internet
>  ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.252
>  ip access-group 101 in
>  no ip unreachables
>  no ip proxy-arp
>  no ip mroute-cache
>  ntp disable
>  no fair-queue
>  service-module t1 remote-alarm-enable
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0/2
> no ip http server
> !
> access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq snmp
> access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq snmptrap
> access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq telnet
> access-list 101 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
> access-list 101 deny   ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
> access-list 101 deny   ip 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
> access-list 101 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 7.255.255.255 any
> access-list 101 deny   ip host 0.0.0.0 any
> access-list 101 permit ip any any
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> dialer-list 1 protocol ipx permit
> snmp-server community REMOVED RO
> snmp-server enable traps tty
> !
> dial-peer cor custom
> !
> !
> !
> !
> line con 0
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  password REMOVED
>  login
> !
> end
>
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> WIC 1 DSU T1.  I am not a cisco guy.  Can anyone send me to a sample 
> config file or something?  T1 is to qwest for internet access. 
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2610

[Eric Rogers]

This config is actually off of a Cisco 2610.  This router has a Dual WIC
and a Single WIC.  The Single was the default gateway to another
location that housed our internet connection.  The dual WIC was later
used for a bonded T1 solution.  We had 4 bonded T1s before we switched
to fiber.

I have several more configs if you need.

Thanks,

Eric

Start-
version 12.2
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname PDS_Router
!
enable secret 5 REMOVED
enable password REMOVED
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
no ip domain-lookup
!
call rsvp-sync
!
!
!
!
!
!
# Dual WIC Port 0/0
controller T1 0/0
 framing esf
 linecode b8zs
 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
!
# Dual WIC Port 0/1
controller T1 0/1
 framing esf
 linecode b8zs
 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24
!
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.224 secondary
 ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.224 secondary
 ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.0
 no ip mroute-cache
 speed 100
 full-duplex
!
# WIC 0:0 - Double WIC Port 0
interface Serial0/0:0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 no keepalive
!
# WIC 0:1 - Double WIC Port 1
interface Serial0/1:0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 no keepalive
!
# WIC 1:0 - Single WIC card to feed remote router
interface Serial0/2
 description connected to Internet
 ip address REMOVED 255.255.255.252
 ip access-group 101 in
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 no ip mroute-cache
 ntp disable
 no fair-queue
 service-module t1 remote-alarm-enable
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0/2
no ip http server
!
access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq snmp
access-list 101 deny   udp any any eq snmptrap
access-list 101 deny   tcp any any eq telnet
access-list 101 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
access-list 101 deny   ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
access-list 101 deny   ip 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
access-list 101 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 7.255.255.255 any
access-list 101 deny   ip host 0.0.0.0 any
access-list 101 permit ip any any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
dialer-list 1 protocol ipx permit
snmp-server community REMOVED RO
snmp-server enable traps tty
!
dial-peer cor custom
!
!
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password REMOVED
 login
!
end


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Gang,

OT:I need some help in setting up a T1.  I have a Cisco 2610 with 
WIC 1 DSU T1.  I am not a cisco guy.  Can anyone send me to a sample 
config file or something?  T1 is to qwest for internet access. 

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco on calculating RF values

[Brian Webster]

And to further add to what Jack said:

When you are tying to factor indoor coverage, there are soo many things 
to
consider. Building construction is the big one. If they have metal siding on
the house or if it is stucco laid over a wire mesh, the signal will be
almost dead inside unless some of it sneaks in through the widows. Now if
the windows have metallic tint on them that creates problems too. Add the
attenuation of multiple walls and/or the possibility of a client location in
the basement and you can see the pitfalls of planning indoor coverage
(especially over a large geographic area). I would say that adding only 3 dB
to get indoor coverage will be way to low. Think back to the days of
analog cellular, when you could hear the signal fades and how you had to
move around inside a building to get a good call. That was at 800 MHz, go
higher in frequency and the signal gets absorbed a lot more by building
materials. It's really a nightmare to try and plan for, especially in the
unlicensed spectrum.



Thank You,
Brian Webster

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Rogelio,

The Cisco website seems to be down at the moment but RF is still RF and
it behaves the same way indoors as it behaves outdoors except of course
if there are more obstructions indoors than outdoors.

In that case, then yes, depending on the nature of the obstructions,
more power would be necessary at both ends of an indoor link to have
same bidirectional throughput and reliability as an equivalent-length
link outdoors. A 6 dB power increase doubles the link distance. Doubling
the LINK DISTANCE from/to an access point (assuming an omnidirectional
antenna on the AP) will make the COVERAGE AREA four times larger
(because the area of a circle is pi (3.14) times the radius of the
circle squared).

To simply double the coverage AREA of a circle (as opposed to doubling
the DISTANCE of a link) would then take something less than 6 dB
(assuming no obstructions and assuming a straight linear decrease in the
peak number of sunspots that first appear during the time frame between
the waxing and the waning moon in the month of December of every third
even year after 1776).

jack


Rogelio wrote:
> I found this URL while googling for more info on Brian Webster's
> response to my 4.9 question (on why smaller channels were more efficient).
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
0e90fe.shtml
>
> I was wondering if 9db was the amount of wattage others here found was
> amount necessary to double indoor coverage (as opposed to 6 db for
> outdoor coverage).
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco on calculating RF values

[Jack Unger]

Rogelio,

The Cisco website seems to be down at the moment but RF is still RF and 
it behaves the same way indoors as it behaves outdoors except of course 
if there are more obstructions indoors than outdoors.

In that case, then yes, depending on the nature of the obstructions, 
more power would be necessary at both ends of an indoor link to have 
same bidirectional throughput and reliability as an equivalent-length 
link outdoors. A 6 dB power increase doubles the link distance. Doubling 
the LINK DISTANCE from/to an access point (assuming an omnidirectional 
antenna on the AP) will make the COVERAGE AREA four times larger 
(because the area of a circle is pi (3.14) times the radius of the 
circle squared).

To simply double the coverage AREA of a circle (as opposed to doubling 
the DISTANCE of a link) would then take something less than 6 dB 
(assuming no obstructions and assuming a straight linear decrease in the 
peak number of sunspots that first appear during the time frame between 
the waxing and the waning moon in the month of December of every third 
even year after 1776).

jack


Rogelio wrote:
> I found this URL while googling for more info on Brian Webster's 
> response to my 4.9 question (on why smaller channels were more efficient).
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a00800e90fe.shtml
>
> I was wondering if 9db was the amount of wattage others here found was 
> amount necessary to double indoor coverage (as opposed to 6 db for 
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers (for sale)

[Matt Liotta]

Each 12008 has dual GRPs (512MB RAM) and dual DC power as well as full  
switch fabric. None of the line cards are present as we got rid of  
them. However, the guys selling the equipment for me can get you  
whatever you need for very cheap. We have found the 8FE and 1GigE  
cards are cheap even with upgraded RAM.

Any other messages regarding this equipment should probably go off list.

-Matt

On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

> Matt, pleased send the specs on those units
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> I figured I would mention. I have two GSRs (12008) that I am no longer
> using that support full tables etc. I am happy to sell them for $3k
> total or $1500 each. That is a no haggle below market price available
> to folks on this list. They are currently being sold by a 3rd party
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers (for sale)

[Gino Villarini]

Matt, pleased send the specs on those units

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I figured I would mention. I have two GSRs (12008) that I am no longer  
using that support full tables etc. I am happy to sell them for $3k  
total or $1500 each. That is a no haggle below market price available  
to folks on this list. They are currently being sold by a 3rd party  
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers (for sale)

[Matt Liotta]

I figured I would mention. I have two GSRs (12008) that I am no longer  
using that support full tables etc. I am happy to sell them for $3k  
total or $1500 each. That is a no haggle below market price available  
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Matt Liotta]

7609 sup720-3bxl

-Matt

On Aug 12, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:

> Matt what you migrated to?
>
> gino
>
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>
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Scott Lambert wrote:
>>>
>> What if you figure in the cost of a year or three of trying to feed
>> the
>> GSRs enough amps to keep them passing packets and enough amps to the
>> air
>> conditioner to keep them from melting?
>>
> For us it is irrelevant. We would need a VXR with a NPE-G2, which
> already costs more than a GSR and is limited to 3 ports. Granted you
> can expand the VXR with additional ports, but those are expensive and
> have limited throughput.
>
>> There have to be reasons that at least one NYC ISP was trying, and
>> having some difficulty as I heard it, to give the GSRs away.
>>
> Most give them away because they don't scale well beyond 2.5Gbps. I
> know that is why we moved away.
>
>> Note: I do not know the current draw of a GSR vs the current draw  
>> of a
>> VXR.  But I have seen the power supplies.
>>
> Depends on the line cards, but Ethernet cards use very little. I
> haven't had one use more than 15amps of DC.
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Gino Villarini]

Thanks, good input

Gino A. Villarini
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Gino,

The answer to your question of to do Cisco GSR or not To, will depend on
what you are going to be comfortable with.

Since you are currently working with the Mikrotik Appliance, you may
find
working with a router of similar format, me be more suited to your
needs
(You could use Vyatta appliance on server of your choosing, or could
easily
do a build your own router using Freebsd etc. etc.)


Choosing to deal with a Cisco or Juniper or Riverstone etc. etc. is a
challenge with it's own set of issues.. You will have to keep enough
spares,
and also find a source for the IOS, and someone familiar with the
odditites
of that particular box and IOS, and yes, all of these have their own
oddities.

The GSR & VXR from Cisco are designed to be able to do the 'lifting'
that
you are talking about, however how much 'oumph' they have will depend on
what you are used to doing.
   E.g. how many acl's are u needing to run ? What other type of traffic
are
u trying to manage ? 

For just doing BGP and routing, pretty much they will all do the job, as
long as you have enough memory to hold the route tables and a fast
enough
'processor' to handle the normal stuff.  The question then becomes, do
you
have enough 'CPU' to deal with non-ordinary stuff.

My advise, would be to give serious thought as to why you want to put
THAT
box in place, as compared to what has been working for you.

As to what we have been using  We are using Riverstone Routers
(RS8000, RS3000 etc), in some cases we replaced CISCO 72XX series, only
because the Riverstone provide us a better combination of ports, and
features that we were needing.

I know of another fellow ISP, who is happily humming away using two
Freebsd
boxes runing CARP and a few other daemons. As for us, I had to remove
the
ACL's from our core router to reduce CPU utilization And our friends
commonly uses his freebsd box to do acl, as well as some level of packet
analysis without any worries.

It is not a matter of one is better than other, it is more a question of
how
one suits your environment. 
(BTW, you can easily do GIG E port on a Server based router, either
using a
"Swtich" or just using a Fiber Nic).


Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net

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Thanks for the input, actually our core router is a Mikrotik Appliace
(same
as the power router).  We have 2 100 mbps upstream links with the same
provider and we could not get BGP aggregation working correctly against
the
provider Cisco.  

So we are looking into putting a cisco in between both units,  this
could
change IF our upstream provider could provide us a Gig port in the near
future

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Hi,

We just recently installed one of these (12008) to take a full OC3 feed.

We had to ugprade the memory (on the CPU card AND on the OC3 card), but
even
then it was cheap. The only catch for most people is they are 240VAC...
and
they take up about 10u of rack space.

Travis
Microserv

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> While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I 
> stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with 
> apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on 
> this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE 
> circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Gino,

The answer to your question of to do Cisco GSR or not To, will depend on
what you are going to be comfortable with.

Since you are currently working with the Mikrotik Appliance, you may find
working with a router of similar format, me be more suited to your needs
(You could use Vyatta appliance on server of your choosing, or could easily
do a build your own router using Freebsd etc. etc.)


Choosing to deal with a Cisco or Juniper or Riverstone etc. etc. is a
challenge with it's own set of issues.. You will have to keep enough spares,
and also find a source for the IOS, and someone familiar with the odditites
of that particular box and IOS, and yes, all of these have their own
oddities.

The GSR & VXR from Cisco are designed to be able to do the 'lifting' that
you are talking about, however how much 'oumph' they have will depend on
what you are used to doing.
   E.g. how many acl's are u needing to run ? What other type of traffic are
u trying to manage ? 

For just doing BGP and routing, pretty much they will all do the job, as
long as you have enough memory to hold the route tables and a fast enough
'processor' to handle the normal stuff.  The question then becomes, do you
have enough 'CPU' to deal with non-ordinary stuff.

My advise, would be to give serious thought as to why you want to put THAT
box in place, as compared to what has been working for you.

As to what we have been using  We are using Riverstone Routers
(RS8000, RS3000 etc), in some cases we replaced CISCO 72XX series, only
because the Riverstone provide us a better combination of ports, and
features that we were needing.

I know of another fellow ISP, who is happily humming away using two Freebsd
boxes runing CARP and a few other daemons. As for us, I had to remove the
ACL's from our core router to reduce CPU utilization And our friends
commonly uses his freebsd box to do acl, as well as some level of packet
analysis without any worries.

It is not a matter of one is better than other, it is more a question of how
one suits your environment. 
(BTW, you can easily do GIG E port on a Server based router, either using a
"Swtich" or just using a Fiber Nic).


Faisal Imtiaz
Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

Thanks for the input, actually our core router is a Mikrotik Appliace (same
as the power router).  We have 2 100 mbps upstream links with the same
provider and we could not get BGP aggregation working correctly against the
provider Cisco.  

So we are looking into putting a cisco in between both units,  this could
change IF our upstream provider could provide us a Gig port in the near
future

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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:28 AM
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Hi,

We just recently installed one of these (12008) to take a full OC3 feed.

We had to ugprade the memory (on the CPU card AND on the OC3 card), but even
then it was cheap. The only catch for most people is they are 240VAC... and
they take up about 10u of rack space.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:
> While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I 
> stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with 
> apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on 
> this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE 
> circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Gino Villarini]

Matt what you migrated to?

gino

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers


On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Scott Lambert wrote:
>>
> What if you figure in the cost of a year or three of trying to feed  
> the
> GSRs enough amps to keep them passing packets and enough amps to the  
> air
> conditioner to keep them from melting?
>
For us it is irrelevant. We would need a VXR with a NPE-G2, which  
already costs more than a GSR and is limited to 3 ports. Granted you  
can expand the VXR with additional ports, but those are expensive and  
have limited throughput.

> There have to be reasons that at least one NYC ISP was trying, and
> having some difficulty as I heard it, to give the GSRs away.
>
Most give them away because they don't scale well beyond 2.5Gbps. I  
know that is why we moved away.

> Note: I do not know the current draw of a GSR vs the current draw of a
> VXR.  But I have seen the power supplies.
>
Depends on the line cards, but Ethernet cards use very little. I  
haven't had one use more than 15amps of DC.

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Matt Liotta]

On Aug 12, 2008, at 6:51 PM, Scott Lambert wrote:
>>
> What if you figure in the cost of a year or three of trying to feed  
> the
> GSRs enough amps to keep them passing packets and enough amps to the  
> air
> conditioner to keep them from melting?
>
For us it is irrelevant. We would need a VXR with a NPE-G2, which  
already costs more than a GSR and is limited to 3 ports. Granted you  
can expand the VXR with additional ports, but those are expensive and  
have limited throughput.

> There have to be reasons that at least one NYC ISP was trying, and
> having some difficulty as I heard it, to give the GSRs away.
>
Most give them away because they don't scale well beyond 2.5Gbps. I  
know that is why we moved away.

> Note: I do not know the current draw of a GSR vs the current draw of a
> VXR.  But I have seen the power supplies.
>
Depends on the line cards, but Ethernet cards use very little. I  
haven't had one use more than 15amps of DC.

-Matt



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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Travis Johnson]

We installed a GSR with two processor cards and a single OC3 card. The
load on our UPS went up by 1% (APC 12kva). The heat generated by that
is nothing compared to the three Akamai caching servers (2u HP's with 8
SCSI drives each and dual power supplies).

Travis
Microserv

Scott Lambert wrote:

  On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:21:13AM -0400, Matt Liotta wrote:
  
  
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:


  GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a
couple of mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.

Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers
for a fraction of the price.

Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with
BGP and VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.
  

I don't think it is possible to buy VXRs with the right engine to  
handle full tables that are cheaper than GSRs.

  
  
What if you figure in the cost of a year or three of trying to feed the
GSRs enough amps to keep them passing packets and enough amps to the air
conditioner to keep them from melting?

There have to be reasons that at least one NYC ISP was trying, and
having some difficulty as I heard it, to give the GSRs away.

Note: I do not know the current draw of a GSR vs the current draw of a
VXR.  But I have seen the power supplies.
 
  






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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Scott Lambert]

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:21:13AM -0400, Matt Liotta wrote:
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
> > GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a
> > couple of mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.
> >
> > Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers
> > for a fraction of the price.
> >
> > Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with
> > BGP and VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.
> 
> I don't think it is possible to buy VXRs with the right engine to  
> handle full tables that are cheaper than GSRs.

What if you figure in the cost of a year or three of trying to feed the
GSRs enough amps to keep them passing packets and enough amps to the air
conditioner to keep them from melting?

There have to be reasons that at least one NYC ISP was trying, and
having some difficulty as I heard it, to give the GSRs away.

Note: I do not know the current draw of a GSR vs the current draw of a
VXR.  But I have seen the power supplies.
 
-- 
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Matt Liotta]

The only 6500/7600 that can support full tables requires a  
sup720-3bxl, which itself is much more expensive than a complete GSR.

-Matt

On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Bryan Scott wrote:

> You could also do a 6500 or 7600 with dual Supervisors & power
> supplies.  Mine carries full routes, dual GigE to the world, supports
> GigE, FE, ATM OC3, DS3, Packet Over Sonet (over OC3 or OC12), 48 & 96-
> port ethernet blades, and the list goes on.  They have AC or DC power
> supplies.  And they are big. Every port can either be switched or
> routed.
>
> -- Bryan
>
> On Aug 12, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
>
>> Hi Gino,
>>
>> GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a
>> couple of
>> mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.
>>
>> Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers
>> for a
>> fraction of the price.
>>
>> Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with
>> BGP and
>> VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jeff
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Matt Liotta]

I don't think it is possible to buy VXRs with the right engine to  
handle full tables that are cheaper than GSRs.

-Matt

On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:

> Hi Gino,
>
> GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a  
> couple of
> mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.
>
> Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers  
> for a
> fraction of the price.
>
> Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with  
> BGP and
> VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers
>
> Make sure you're getting more than 256MB of RAM if you're doing full  
> routes
> to 2 different peers. The GSRs can be really expensive to upgrade if  
> they
> don't already have what you need.
>
> Dylan
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I  
> stumbled
> into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with apparently  
> great
> pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on this routers?  
> Are they
> any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE circuits with the  
> eventuality
> of growing into a Gigabit circuit?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Matt Liotta]

More importantly you need to have 256MB of line card memory on each  
card if you plan on running full tables. Make sure you get the GRP-B  
route processors with ECC memory.

-Matt

On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Dylan Bouterse wrote:

> Make sure you're getting more than 256MB of RAM if you're doing full
> routes to 2 different peers. The GSRs can be really expensive to  
> upgrade
> if they don't already have what you need.
>
> Dylan
>
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> Subject: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers
>
> While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I
> stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with
> apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on
> this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE
> circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Bryan Scott]

You could also do a 6500 or 7600 with dual Supervisors & power  
supplies.  Mine carries full routes, dual GigE to the world, supports  
GigE, FE, ATM OC3, DS3, Packet Over Sonet (over OC3 or OC12), 48 & 96- 
port ethernet blades, and the list goes on.  They have AC or DC power  
supplies.  And they are big. Every port can either be switched or  
routed.

-- Bryan

On Aug 12, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:

> Hi Gino,
>
> GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a  
> couple of
> mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.
>
> Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers  
> for a
> fraction of the price.
>
> Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with  
> BGP and
> VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Gino Villarini]

Yeah that's what I was leaning to ...maybe we could talk offlist

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Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:46 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

Hi Gino,

GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a couple
of
mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.

Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers for a
fraction of the price.  

Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with BGP
and
VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.  

Regards,

Jeff
 

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Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

Make sure you're getting more than 256MB of RAM if you're doing full
routes
to 2 different peers. The GSRs can be really expensive to upgrade if
they
don't already have what you need.

Dylan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:39 AM
To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I
stumbled
into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with apparently
great
pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on this routers? Are
they
any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE circuits with the
eventuality
of growing into a Gigabit circuit?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Jeff Broadwick]

Hi Gino,

GSRs are overkill for what you are doing.  In the Cisco world, a couple of
mid-range VXRs would be a better solution.

Or you could use a couple of ImageStream Rebel or Gateway routers for a
fraction of the price.  

Either way, I'd use two routers in a redundant configuration with BGP and
VRRP/HSRP for link and hardware failover.  

Regards,

Jeff
 

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Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

Make sure you're getting more than 256MB of RAM if you're doing full routes
to 2 different peers. The GSRs can be really expensive to upgrade if they
don't already have what you need.

Dylan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:39 AM
To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I stumbled
into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with apparently great
pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on this routers? Are they
any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE circuits with the eventuality
of growing into a Gigabit circuit?

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Gino Villarini]

Thanks for the input, actually our core router is a Mikrotik Appliace
(same as the power router).  We have 2 100 mbps upstream links with the
same provider and we could not get BGP aggregation working correctly
against the provider Cisco.  

So we are looking into putting a cisco in between both units,  this
could change IF our upstream provider could provide us a Gig port in the
near future

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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:28 AM
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Hi,

We just recently installed one of these (12008) to take a full OC3 feed.

We had to ugprade the memory (on the CPU card AND on the OC3 card), but 
even then it was cheap. The only catch for most people is they are 
240VAC... and they take up about 10u of rack space.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:
> While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I
> stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with
> apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on
> this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE
> circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

We just recently installed one of these (12008) to take a full OC3 feed. 
We had to ugprade the memory (on the CPU card AND on the OC3 card), but 
even then it was cheap. The only catch for most people is they are 
240VAC... and they take up about 10u of rack space.

Travis
Microserv

Gino Villarini wrote:
> While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I
> stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with
> apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on
> this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE
> circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Brad Belton]

A GSR is a plenty powerful enough router to handle multiple FE and GigE
circuits, but they are prone to failure just as anything else is.  Make sure
you've got spares on hand and like Dylan mentioned make sure it has at least
512MB RAM.

BTW, one of our GigE upstream providers has been running a GSR and it has
demonstrated a poorer overall available uptime than the 3GHz MikroTik we
have peered with it.  YMMV

Best,


Brad



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Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:49 AM
To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

Make sure you're getting more than 256MB of RAM if you're doing full
routes to 2 different peers. The GSRs can be really expensive to upgrade
if they don't already have what you need.

Dylan

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Subject: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I
stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with
apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on
this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE
circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

[Dylan Bouterse]

Make sure you're getting more than 256MB of RAM if you're doing full
routes to 2 different peers. The GSRs can be really expensive to upgrade
if they don't already have what you need.

Dylan

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Subject: [WISPA] Cisco GSR Routers

While looking for a Router to handle our dual 100 mbps with BGP , I
stumbled into lots of Cisco GSR12000 series routers on ebay, with
apparently great pricing and Gigabit Card option...whts the story on
this routers? Are they any good? Would it handle a couple of 100 FE
circuits with the eventuality of growing into a Gigabit circuit?

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh 1510 or 1520 series

[John Thomas]

I've done Cisco, but it was a small install, just 4 1500 series

John

Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc wrote:
> Mesh is a four letter word to most!  
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh 1510 or 1520 series

[Mike Hammett]

I would never use mesh as it isn't RF efficient.  It also isn't bandwidth 
efficient.


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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh 1510 or 1520 series

[ralph]

Why?

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Mesh is a four letter word to most!  



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I'm wondering if there are any integrators or WISPs here on the list
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Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh 1510 or 1520 series

[Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc]

Mesh is a four letter word to most!  



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I'm wondering if there are any integrators or WISPs here on the list
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RE: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

[Don Annas]

Thank you Dave!  I really appreciate the feedback.  We have had good luck
with the Trango units as well (particularly the 5.3 bridges).  Did you get a
chance to test the throughput of the Cisco units?  If so, at what distance?
Thanks.

- Don

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Don, I did test the 1400 integrated units as a PtP bridge last summer 
for 60 days. Worked flawlessly. Never set it up as an AP though. I liked 
that it used two runs of 75ohm cable up the tower to the units with 
three grounding blocks along the 150 ft path. I didn't keep them because 
the Trango Atlas units we tested also preformed flawlessly and were half 
the price. I'm not sure it was the right decision as it was the Trango 
unit on that tower that took the lightning strike last night outside 
Louisville, nasty storms. Lost the protected POE, the radio, and the 
Ethernet surge on that line. None of the other 6 radios in use even had 
a hiccup but are all coax not POE. Heliax LDF7 LDF6 and 4.5. Now that I 
have it to do over again, I'll use elliptical coax for the 5.3 GHz link 
along with external antennas.

I do have a used 1/2 Trango Atlas Bridge 5010M-INT for sale if anyone is 
interested. Otherwise I'll put it on eBay next week. First dibs goes to 
a WISPA member.
Send an e-mail off list please.

Dave Hulsebus
Portative Technologies

 

Don Annas wrote:
> Is anyone using the Cisco 1300 or 1400 series AP/Bridges?  
>
>  
>
> I know they are a bit pricing, but was curious how they performed in a
noisy
> environment?  
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

[Dave Hulsebus]

Don, I did test the 1400 integrated units as a PtP bridge last summer 
for 60 days. Worked flawlessly. Never set it up as an AP though. I liked 
that it used two runs of 75ohm cable up the tower to the units with 
three grounding blocks along the 150 ft path. I didn't keep them because 
the Trango Atlas units we tested also preformed flawlessly and were half 
the price. I'm not sure it was the right decision as it was the Trango 
unit on that tower that took the lightning strike last night outside 
Louisville, nasty storms. Lost the protected POE, the radio, and the 
Ethernet surge on that line. None of the other 6 radios in use even had 
a hiccup but are all coax not POE. Heliax LDF7 LDF6 and 4.5. Now that I 
have it to do over again, I'll use elliptical coax for the 5.3 GHz link 
along with external antennas.


I do have a used 1/2 Trango Atlas Bridge 5010M-INT for sale if anyone is 
interested. Otherwise I'll put it on eBay next week. First dibs goes to 
a WISPA member.

Send an e-mail off list please.

Dave Hulsebus
Portative Technologies



Don Annas wrote:
Is anyone using the Cisco 1300 or 1400 series AP/Bridges?  

 


I know they are a bit pricing, but was curious how they performed in a noisy
environment?  

 

 

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RE: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

[Don Annas]

We just bought our first pair of 1300 series for a short < 1mi. link and it
seems to be doing well.  There is a 15 mile link that we are currently
running a Redline AN50 (older model) on that we are looking to replace and
contemplating between a licensed link vs. an unlicensed replacement.  This
is a pretty noisy area RF speaking and I was curious as to how the Cisco
handled the longer range links.  Which model(s) have you deployed?

- Don

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

They work OK for us in the East San Francisco Bay area.
They have the ability to move to a different channel if the noise gets 
too bad.

JT

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

[John Thomas]

They work OK for us in the East San Francisco Bay area.
They have the ability to move to a different channel if the noise gets 
too bad.


JT

Don Annas wrote:
Is anyone using the Cisco 1300 or 1400 series AP/Bridges?  

 


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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges

[Mike Cowan]

Cough, cough cough...


At 01:48 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:

Is anyone using the Cisco 1300 or 1400 series AP/Bridges?



I know they are a bit pricing, but was curious how they performed in a noisy
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment

[John J. Thomas]

All of the above

The controller has RSSI, several graphs, both current and historical, other APs 
seen, and a few other things we haven't completely dug into.

When we get back down there, I will get a list of all the monitoring it 
supports and give a better review.

John



>-Original Message-
>From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2006 05:56 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment
>
>Define monitoring?
>
>Up down status, or real time and historical data of link characteristics and 
>health?
>
>Tom DeReggi
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>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "WISPA General List" 
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment
>
>
>
>If it would stop raining..
>
>
>We don't have it all deployed yet, but here is what we know.
>
>They take a long time to boot, maybe 5 minutes.
>
>The range is poor, they are supposed to put out 26 dBm per Cisco, but they 
>only put out 14 dBm per the controller interface. We questioned Cisco on 
>this, and they calimed that the 26 dB was the total of transmit + receive. 
>We are going to try to get an engineer to tell us what the radio is and what 
>the REAL output power is. If the power is truly on 14 dBm, that is not good.
>
>The 2.4 radios ar supposed to put out 25 dBm, but the controller interface 
>is only showing 17 dBm max. We are hoping that this is a limit in the BIOS 
>that can be changed.
>
>
>We had 1 link at 3600 feet with 1 tree in the way. 7.5 dB omni on each end 
>and no link. As soon as another engineer put a 1500 (Mesh AP) in his car and 
>got between the other two, the link came up. This is with one end on a 
>firehouse at about 35 feet and the other on a light pole at about 26 feet or 
>so.
>
>The monitoring is not what we expected-there doesn't seem to be any way to 
>monitor the 5 GHz backhauls, but the monitoring of the 2.4 is very good.
>
>We are waiting on the city to put in some long-range ethernet links between 
>the stoplights so we will actually have something to bridge.
>
>They currently only use 5.7-5.8 GHz, but 4.9 is supposed to be available 
>later this year.
>
>
>
>John
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 06:09 PM
>>To: 'WISPA General List'
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment
>>
>>John,
>>
>>It's now April 5th. How are you faring with the Cisco mesh gear?
>>
>>On 3/1/06, John J. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The Cisco radios can do 4.9-5.8 GHz. I am assuming that 5.3-5.7 will be 
>>> available in a update, since 4.9 is available now. Cisco apparently only 
>>> has 6-8 deployments so far, and they are releasing updates regularly.
>>>
>>> Our install is tentatively scheduled for March 14th, so I should be able 
>>> to post info shortly thereafter.
>>
>>Best,
>>--
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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment

[Tom DeReggi]

Define monitoring?

Up down status, or real time and historical data of link characteristics and 
health?


Tom DeReggi
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- Original Message - 
From: "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment



If it would stop raining..


We don't have it all deployed yet, but here is what we know.

They take a long time to boot, maybe 5 minutes.

The range is poor, they are supposed to put out 26 dBm per Cisco, but they 
only put out 14 dBm per the controller interface. We questioned Cisco on 
this, and they calimed that the 26 dB was the total of transmit + receive. 
We are going to try to get an engineer to tell us what the radio is and what 
the REAL output power is. If the power is truly on 14 dBm, that is not good.


The 2.4 radios ar supposed to put out 25 dBm, but the controller interface 
is only showing 17 dBm max. We are hoping that this is a limit in the BIOS 
that can be changed.



We had 1 link at 3600 feet with 1 tree in the way. 7.5 dB omni on each end 
and no link. As soon as another engineer put a 1500 (Mesh AP) in his car and 
got between the other two, the link came up. This is with one end on a 
firehouse at about 35 feet and the other on a light pole at about 26 feet or 
so.


The monitoring is not what we expected-there doesn't seem to be any way to 
monitor the 5 GHz backhauls, but the monitoring of the 2.4 is very good.


We are waiting on the city to put in some long-range ethernet links between 
the stoplights so we will actually have something to bridge.


They currently only use 5.7-5.8 GHz, but 4.9 is supposed to be available 
later this year.




John







-Original Message-
From: Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 06:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

John,

It's now April 5th. How are you faring with the Cisco mesh gear?

On 3/1/06, John J. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The Cisco radios can do 4.9-5.8 GHz. I am assuming that 5.3-5.7 will be 
available in a update, since 4.9 is available now. Cisco apparently only 
has 6-8 deployments so far, and they are releasing updates regularly.


Our install is tentatively scheduled for March 14th, so I should be able 
to post info shortly thereafter.


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Re: [WISPA] Cisco Mesh Equipment

[John J. Thomas]

If it would stop raining..


We don't have it all deployed yet, but here is what we know.

They take a long time to boot, maybe 5 minutes.

The range is poor, they are supposed to put out 26 dBm per Cisco, but they only 
put out 14 dBm per the controller interface. We questioned Cisco on this, and 
they calimed that the 26 dB was the total of transmit + receive. We are going 
to try to get an engineer to tell us what the radio is and what the REAL output 
power is. If the power is truly on 14 dBm, that is not good.

The 2.4 radios ar supposed to put out 25 dBm, but the controller interface is 
only showing 17 dBm max. We are hoping that this is a limit in the BIOS that 
can be changed.


We had 1 link at 3600 feet with 1 tree in the way. 7.5 dB omni on each end and 
no link. As soon as another engineer put a 1500 (Mesh AP) in his car and got 
between the other two, the link came up. This is with one end on a firehouse at 
about 35 feet and the other on a light pole at about 26 feet or so.

The monitoring is not what we expected-there doesn't seem to be any way to 
monitor the 5 GHz backhauls, but the monitoring of the 2.4 is very good.

We are waiting on the city to put in some long-range ethernet links between the 
stoplights so we will actually have something to bridge.

They currently only use 5.7-5.8 GHz, but 4.9 is supposed to be available later 
this year.



John






>-Original Message-
>From: Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 06:09 PM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment
>
>John,
>
>It's now April 5th. How are you faring with the Cisco mesh gear?
>
>On 3/1/06, John J. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The Cisco radios can do 4.9-5.8 GHz. I am assuming that 5.3-5.7 will be 
>> available in a update, since 4.9 is available now. Cisco apparently only has 
>> 6-8 deployments so far, and they are releasing updates regularly.
>>
>> Our install is tentatively scheduled for March 14th, so I should be able to 
>> post info shortly thereafter.
>
>Best,
>--
>Dylan Oliver
>Primaverity, LLC
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RE: [WISPA] Cisco

[Russ Kreigh]

Butch -

Double check that the sonicwall is running 100-full, hard-code it if you
can. You should never see deferred transmissions on a 100-full connection.
Also check your ethernet cables.

You also might try putting a switch in between the Cisco and Sonicwall if
you can't hard-code it.

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Subject: [WISPA] Cisco

I am seeing some errors on a client's network and I need some expertise.
Here is the output from the Cisco:
cdg-gate#sh interfaces FastEthernet0/0

FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is AmdFE, address is 0030.8558.8060 (bia 0030.8558.8060)
  Internet address is 12.145.235.254/23
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:01:28
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 745000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 102000 bits/sec, 85 packets/sec
 9064 packets input, 9837705 bytes
 Received 1 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog
 0 input packets with dribble condition detected
 8003 packets output, 1130789 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0)
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 19 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

Note the "deferred" output packets.  Can anyone provide some input on what
would cause this?  The T1 side is not seeing any errors at all.  Network is:

T1 -> Cisco -> SonicWall -> Switch

The SonicWall is configured as a bridge and has been a source of good income
for me (lots of time "fixing" it).  I suspect the problem is the SonicWall,
but not certain.  I plan to bypass the SonicWall, but wanted some input from
those more experienced with Cisco as to what I may be able to do to see what
is happening on the network from the Cisco's perspective.  Thanks for your
help.

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Re: [WISPA] Cisco

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

I'm guessing here but I think that one end or the other is overloaded and 
there's a backup of traffic.  The Cisco then holds the data for x period of 
time and it either gets through or it dies there


But I'm certainly no expert.  I'm trying to remember the kinds of things 
that happened back when we were still running a 56k data link to the net and 
had it stuffed completely full.


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Subject: [WISPA] Cisco



I am seeing some errors on a client's network and I need some
expertise.  Here is the output from the Cisco:
cdg-gate#sh interfaces FastEthernet0/0

FastEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up
 Hardware is AmdFE, address is 0030.8558.8060 (bia 0030.8558.8060)
 Internet address is 12.145.235.254/23
 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
 Keepalive set (10 sec)
 Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
 ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
 Last input 00:00:04, output 00:00:00, output hang never
 Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:01:28
 Queueing strategy: fifo
 Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
 5 minute input rate 745000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec
 5 minute output rate 102000 bits/sec, 85 packets/sec
9064 packets input, 9837705 bytes
Received 1 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
0 watchdog
0 input packets with dribble condition detected
8003 packets output, 1130789 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0)
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
0 babbles, 0 late collision, 19 deferred
0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

Note the "deferred" output packets.  Can anyone provide some input
on what would cause this?  The T1 side is not seeing any errors at
all.  Network is:

T1 -> Cisco -> SonicWall -> Switch

The SonicWall is configured as a bridge and has been a source of
good income for me (lots of time "fixing" it).  I suspect the
problem is the SonicWall, but not certain.  I plan to bypass the
SonicWall, but wanted some input from those more experienced with
Cisco as to what I may be able to do to see what is happening on the
network from the Cisco's perspective.  Thanks for your help.

--
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BPS Networks  http://www.bpsnetworks.com/
Bernie, MO
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