Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-25 Thread Jack Unger
e have the use of 54 - 698 MHz (with the current rule set, minus a few reserved channels). Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed this at FISPA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike" Sent

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-25 Thread Mike
* 6 MHz wide allocations are made, then one would be stupid to >>>>>>use a "do all" antenna for all frequencies. Maybe I am missing >>>>>>something here. Perhaps a newly revised rules of physics? >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike Hammett, I am not just trying to be contrary but am willing to >>>>>&

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-25 Thread Jack Unger
e of 54 - 698 MHz (with the current rule set, minus a few reserved channels). Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed this at FISPA. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-24 Thread Mike
ces FCC >>>>>rules. I think once he has that additional information, he will >>>>>understand why your (and my) conclusion about needing a "TV-sized" >>>>>antenna is correct. >>>>> >>>>>jack >&

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread John Valenti
Mike, First, take everything I saw about this with a grain of salt, because I'm no expert. From my reading of the R&O, there are two types of whitespace device. There is a low power version, that I think is intended to be like a mini-PCI card, installed in a laptop. There are no height res

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread chris cooper
Jack Unger Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Hi Mike, We just finished our work on WISPA's "Spectrum for Broadband" filing and it goes to the FCC today. Those WISPs who enjoy using this list but who are not WISPA member

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
a few reserved channels). Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed this at FISPA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
gt;>>>current TV antenna. We have the use of 54 - 698 MHz (with the current rule >>>>set, minus a few reserved channels). >>>> >>>>Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed >>>>this at FISPA. >&g

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread ccrum
s. >>>>> >>>>> Give me ANY part of it and the radios to use it and I >>>>> will. Propagation would be superior to anything we're using now. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
nt Computing Solutions >http://www.ics-il.com > > > >-------------- >From: "Mike" >Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:06 PM >To: "WISPA General List" >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > > > Jack: > > > > I

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
At 07:46 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> What equipment are they using? Did they have to do the 30 > meter antennas? > >>>> > >>>> Scottie > >>>> > >>>> -- Original Message ---

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
omething, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed this at FISPA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------- From: "Mike" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" S

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
October 23, 2009 2:06 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > Jack: > > If your goal is to use VHF frequencies at 54 MHz then YES you will > need a large radiator! If your goal is to use UHF frequencies at > 300, or 500 MHz, then NO, you won't ne

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
rum" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:08 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > Mike, you are certainly correct about the propagation characteristics. > This is both good and bad depending on how people plan to deploy. I > think that a lot of people are thi

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread ccrum
ginal Message -- >>>> From: "Gino Villarini" >>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List >>>> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:22 -0400 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> IIRC, 6 mhz channels we

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
ing, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed >>this at FISPA. >> >> >>- >>Mike Hammett >>Intelligent Computing Solutions >><http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >>-- >>From: "Mike&q

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Jack Unger
From: "Mike" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others. Free space path loss is greater

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
d this at FISPA. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike" Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > Well the comments I&

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
uld bond them... > >>> so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 mhz > >>> channel. > >>> > >>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability > >>> > >>> Gino A. Villarini > >>> g...@aero

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread ccrum
ies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 mhz >>> channel. >>> >>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> 787.273.4143 >>>

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
oponed on the FCC RO, you could bond >>>> them... >>>> so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 >>>> mhz >>>> channel. >>>> >>>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability >>>> >>

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
, self install and mobile probability >>>> >>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>> 787.273.4143 >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [m

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread John Valenti
s you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 >>> mhz >>> channel. >>> >>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> 787.273.41

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Hammett
PA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > U, only partially. The old TV antennas were combo antennas that > usually had a log periodic antenna for VHF and some sort of > arrangement for UHF, usually a corner reflector, bow tie or > something. Because they were des

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-23 Thread Mike
we've been using for 50+ years. > > >- >Mike Hammett >Intelligent Computing Solutions >http://www.ics-il.com > > > >-- >From: "Mike" >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:52 PM >To: ; "WISP

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Hammett
ober 22, 2009 7:52 PM To: ; "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven > element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way > shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think about the 900

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Mike
> >Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >787.273.4143 > >-Original Message- > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >Behalf Of Scott Carullo > >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM > >To: WISPA General List > &

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Scottie Arnett
-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Scott Carullo >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > > >My question is how fast can their internet go using tv

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Jack Unger
uot;WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I guess if you had nothing else

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Jerry Richardson
idDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Carullo" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > > >> >>

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
20mbps to the home world, but still, the benefit is huge. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Scott Carullo" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [W

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Mike Hammett
-- From: "Scott Carullo" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:58 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > > My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint > used to serve this area with an unu

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Jack Unger
cant deliver 10-20MB your not playing the game. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: "Jack Unger" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! See the attached Cas

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Robert West
Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I guess if you had nothing else but if it can'

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Gino Villarini
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint used to

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Carullo
your not playing the game. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message > From: "Jack Unger" > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow! > > See the attac

Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-22 Thread Robert West
I don't know why Microsoft would even want to include Dell in any of that, they have the muscle to wipe everyone but Google out of the way. But if Microsoft is involved, poor service and failed applications will soon follow. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wi