e have the use of 54 - 698 MHz (with the
current rule
set, minus a few reserved channels).
Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and
I discussed
this at FISPA.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Mike"
Sent
* 6 MHz wide allocations are made, then one would be stupid to
>>>>>>use a "do all" antenna for all frequencies. Maybe I am missing
>>>>>>something here. Perhaps a newly revised rules of physics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Hammett, I am not just trying to be contrary but am willing to
>>>>>&
e of 54 - 698 MHz (with the
current rule
set, minus a few reserved channels).
Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed
this at FISPA.
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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ces FCC
>>>>>rules. I think once he has that additional information, he will
>>>>>understand why your (and my) conclusion about needing a "TV-sized"
>>>>>antenna is correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>jack
>&
Mike,
First, take everything I saw about this with a grain of salt, because
I'm no expert.
From my reading of the R&O, there are two types of whitespace device.
There is a low power version, that I think is intended to be like a
mini-PCI card, installed in a laptop. There are no height res
Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
Hi Mike,
We just finished our work on WISPA's "Spectrum for Broadband" filing and
it goes to the FCC today.
Those WISPs who enjoy using this
list but who are not WISPA member
a few reserved channels).
Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed
this at FISPA.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: "Mike"
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM
To:
gt;>>>current TV antenna. We have the use of 54 - 698 MHz (with the current rule
>>>>set, minus a few reserved channels).
>>>>
>>>>Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed
>>>>this at FISPA.
>&g
s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give me ANY part of it and the radios to use it and I
>>>>> will. Propagation would be superior to anything we're using now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A
nt Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
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>
>
>--------------
>From: "Mike"
>Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:06 PM
>To: "WISPA General List"
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>
> > Jack:
> >
> > I
At 07:46 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> What equipment are they using? Did they have to do the 30
> meter antennas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Scottie
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Original Message ---
omething, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed
this at FISPA.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Mike"
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM
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S
October 23, 2009 2:06 PM
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> Jack:
>
> If your goal is to use VHF frequencies at 54 MHz then YES you will
> need a large radiator! If your goal is to use UHF frequencies at
> 300, or 500 MHz, then NO, you won't ne
rum"
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:08 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
> Mike, you are certainly correct about the propagation characteristics.
> This is both good and bad depending on how people plan to deploy. I
> think that a lot of people are thi
ginal Message --
>>>> From: "Gino Villarini"
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List
>>>> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:22 -0400
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, 6 mhz channels we
ing, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed
>>this at FISPA.
>>
>>
>>-
>>Mike Hammett
>>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>><http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>From: "Mike&q
From: "Mike"
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV
antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others.
Free space path loss is greater
d
this at FISPA.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Mike"
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
> Well the comments I&
uld bond them...
> >>> so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 mhz
> >>> channel.
> >>>
> >>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability
> >>>
> >>> Gino A. Villarini
> >>> g...@aero
ies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 mhz
>>> channel.
>>>
>>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.4143
>>>
oponed on the FCC RO, you could bond
>>>> them...
>>>> so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6
>>>> mhz
>>>> channel.
>>>>
>>>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability
>>>>
>>
, self install and mobile probability
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> 787.273.4143
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [m
s you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6
>>> mhz
>>> channel.
>>>
>>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> 787.273.41
PA General List"
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> U, only partially. The old TV antennas were combo antennas that
> usually had a log periodic antenna for VHF and some sort of
> arrangement for UHF, usually a corner reflector, bow tie or
> something. Because they were des
we've been using for 50+ years.
>
>
>-
>Mike Hammett
>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
>--
>From: "Mike"
>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:52 PM
>To: ; "WISP
ober 22, 2009 7:52 PM
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
> At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven
> element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way
> shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think about the 900
> >Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >787.273.4143
> >-Original Message-
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >Behalf Of Scott Carullo
> >Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
> >To: WISPA General List
> &
-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Scott Carullo
>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>
>
>My question is how fast can their internet go using tv
uot;WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace?
Sprint
used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was
SLOW. I
guess if you had nothing else
idDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Carullo"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>
>
>>
>>
20mbps to the home world, but still,
the benefit is huge.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Carullo"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [W
--
From: "Scott Carullo"
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:58 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>
> My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint
> used to serve this area with an unu
cant deliver 10-20MB your not
playing the game.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: "Jack Unger"
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
See the attached Cas
Carullo
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace? Sprint
used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was SLOW. I
guess if you had nothing else but if it can'
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace?
Sprint
used to
your not
playing the game.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Jack Unger"
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>
> See the attac
I don't know why Microsoft would even want to include Dell in any of that,
they have the muscle to wipe everyone but Google out of the way. But if
Microsoft is involved, poor service and failed applications will soon
follow.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wi
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