Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update It's quite unfortunate IMO but I've concluded that this is a typically American problem. In America the courts broke up the Bell system thinking that it'd be better for the average American to have local phone companies competing with each other. Only

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-25 Thread Rich Comroe
wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update You bring up an interesting point, comparing to GSM.. The problem is, in a democracy full of special interests, how does one determine fairly what that compatibilty standard should be? One of the Reasons

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update It's quite unfortunate IMO but I've concluded that this is a typically American problem. In America the courts broke up the Bell system thinking that it'd be better for the average American

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-24 Thread Peter R.
Marlon K. wrote: It's funny. I thought that getting the local businesses on broadband would help me sell more of it. People would use it at work and want it at home too right? Wrong. They just do all of their stuff at work and sometimes cancel even the dialup! This is because people

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-24 Thread Rich Comroe
. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Rich, with all due respect, your idea has a REALLY big flaw in it. Once government sets a standard, it's going to be a very long time

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-24 Thread Rich Comroe
Marlon, I think I can appreciate most everything you've said. I can only add to each of your points, while accepting your input, why I think that your (and my) life would be better if we had some more constructive requirements in the wisp market than anything that fits the transmit mask.

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
! - - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick: I posit that the LACK of any significant consensus from

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
:49 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Well George, ready for long answer that may not actually answer your question? I'd prefer to give you the full story. First,...so, is Alvarion building UL WiMAX? Of course, and I personally see lots of potential for it. When will it come? A few things

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick: I disagree that the market is (directly) rewarding survival

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Steve Stroh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick: Yup - agree to disagree, and remaining civil in the discussion. The basic flaw in your

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-21 Thread Rich Comroe
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Steve, In theory, I fully agree with your view. The problem is that theory does not always play out in the real world. 5 years later, I still have 10 mbps gear, and very few places that can risk using faster gear. (although we are finding ways, such as getting

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-20 Thread Patrick Leary
the best chance of bringing about a positive revolution in UL BWA. Regards, Patrick -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick, Forgive the Me to, but Patrick

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-20 Thread Steve Stroh
Patrick: I disagree that the market is (directly) rewarding survival of the nastiest - it's rewarding systems that are designed to survive in a mixed environment. If that behavior is perceived as nasty by systems that are less robust, oh well. But there's a tradeoff - systems whose primary

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-20 Thread Patrick Leary
Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Steve Stroh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick: I disagree that the market is (directly

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-20 Thread Steve Stroh
Patrick: Yup - agree to disagree, and remaining civil in the discussion. The basic flaw in your perspective is that the current US license-exempt bands are intended for communications use. They're not- their PRIMARY allocation... WAY back, is for Industrial, Scientific, and Medical use, so

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-20 Thread Patrick Leary
: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Steve Stroh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick: Yup - agree to disagree, and remaining civil in the discussion. The basic flaw in your perspective

3650 update (was Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update)

2006-04-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: Steve, I simply refuse to accept that the current rules are sacrosanct, there are not, and the proposed rules for 3650MHz bolter my case. In 3650MHz, the FCC made strong and specific reference that they well might not accept products that they believed were designed not to,

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick Leary
: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update That was a great answer Patrick. You should post more often. This is the information all wisps crave. What frequency

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-19 Thread George
So these are just the licensed frequencies that will get mobile WIMAX. There will be no unlicensed WIMAX mobile or fixed any time in 2006, is that correct? One of the reasons I ask this is there is a group that claims they will be rolling out unlicensed mobile WIMAX here along the Oregon

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick Leary
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update So these are just the licensed frequencies that will get mobile WIMAX. There will be no unlicensed WIMAX mobile or fixed any time in 2006, is that correct? One of the reasons I ask this is there is a group that claims they will be rolling out unlicensed

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
, 2006 11:49 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Well George, ready for long answer that may not actually answer your question? I'd prefer to give you the full story. First,...so, is Alvarion building UL WiMAX? Of course, and I personally see lots of potential for it. When will it come

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread Patrick Leary
Well George, ready for long answer that may not actually answer your question? I'd prefer to give you the full story. First,...so, is Alvarion building UL WiMAX? Of course, and I personally see lots of potential for it. When will it come? A few things are in line first, so there is no firm date

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread Patrick Leary
Sorry, I meant to say NOT scrambling to build residential UL WiMAX CPE. - Patrick -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Well George, ready for long answer that may not actually answer

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
: RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Well George, ready for long answer that may not actually answer your question? I'd prefer to give you the full story. First,...so, is Alvarion building UL WiMAX? Of course, and I personally see lots of potential for it. When will it come? A few things are in line

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread Dylan Oliver
Patrick: Wow - this is by far the most enlightening piece I've ever read on the WiMax market. Thanks a lot! So who really cares about WiMax for backhaul? So what if I can build links with ends from different vendors? Won't proprietary protocols win (technically) if they aren't limited by

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread Patrick Leary
: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update GREAT post Patrick! Thank you so very much for it. This is one of the reasons why I'm so proud of WISPA. We're attracting the cream

RE: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread Patrick Leary
: 650.641.1243 From: Dylan Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update Patrick: Wow - this is by far the most enlightening piece I've ever read on the WiMax market. Thanks a lot! So who really cares

Re: [WISPA] UL WiMAX update

2006-04-18 Thread George
That was a great answer Patrick. You should post more often. This is the information all wisps crave. What frequency is the mobile WIMAX? And what is the expected release dates. Thanks again George Patrick Leary wrote: Well George, ready for long answer that may not actually answer your