Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-16 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:45:40 -0700, Chris wrote: Dynamic Text Replacement http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dynatext/ Most sites that replace text with images do so using hand-made images, which isnt so terrible when there are a set number of headings, but it quickly becomes unmanageable on

Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-16 Thread Viktor Radnai
Marc Greenstock wrote: It is probably best to actually save the images out after the first load so the images are permanently as part of the file system. In the event that you need to change the text simply delete the images and let them reload. This is exactly what I did for a site I built. I

Re: [WSG] Must Read - THREAD CLOSED

2004-06-16 Thread Mark Stanton
Sorry to be a wet blanket guys but this has little or no bearing on web standards. From: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm The mail list does not cover: * Non-Web Standards related issues and support * Discussion of server-side

Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-16 Thread Andy Budd
Richard Rutter wrote: If you want something doing... A script which uses the DOM to automatically underline the letter of a link text which matches its accesskey: http://clagnut.com/sandbox/dynamic-accesskeys/ Any use? In some ways this could be using JavaScript to increase accessibility, or

Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-16 Thread Richard Rutter
On 16 Jun 2004, at 06:19, Bert Doorn wrote: opinion Whatever the technique, using images for headings is, to me, backward, pixel perfect, print thinking. [...] Perhaps I am a lone voice in the desert, but why go back to 1990's style websites when we have CSS? Because if we really on styling

[WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey List, I am currently developing a little software package which will help you manage your CSS and your bandwidth. What it does is it will compress your CSS. Its not very intelligent so it doesnt do anything really special. All it will do is Load a CSS file - Parse the file. It will then

RE: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Patrick Lauke
Sounds interesting, but...I can do all that already withsome find/replaces, so I'm not sure if people will be willing to pay for it (even if $5 is such a low price). Or are you planning to have your tool parse the actual CSS, rather than simply looking for occurences of comments, spaces,

[WSG] The WSG core team

2004-06-16 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi all, The WSG has a core team who are made up from founding members and City meeting organisers. This core team is involved in overall directions and decision-making to do with the WSG. They are also around to help keep the list on topic, as Peter and I cannot be available 24 hours a day. The

Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Patrick, Yeah the program will parse the actuall CSS and list all the SELECTORS, the PROPERTIES and VALUES (And Comments). It works by parsing each character. The algorithm took me an hour or two just to write up. It wasn't simple. That is why you cannot use this software with non

Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Vlad Alexander \(XStandard\)
Hi Chris, I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. If you are on Windows, you can use our free CSS parser. Here is the link: http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=E784B605-2413-49B1-B17C-20A634CB0150 Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XHTML Strict / 1.1 WYSIWYG editor http://xstandard.com

Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Vlad, Thanks for the link I am downloading it now. Although I already fully coded my algorithm and its working 100% fine so far... I could have saved myself an hour or two :S Is the file a object for VB? thanks! Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: Hi Chris, I am

Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Kay Smoljak
BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let me know! I think I can do most, if not all of that with TopStyle Stylesweepers. You can save the parameters ton run them again - I have a super-compressed stylesweeper, and an ultra-readable one. -- Kay Smoljak

Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
I agree I think Topstyle is the program you should have a go to try and beat mate. Although its pretty hard, it has a cult following the guys talented And Macromedia was focrced to put heaps of focus on Dreamweavers CSS capabilites cuz TS is the CSS GOD. Its pretty hard to beat. You prepared

Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Stratford
Im not trying to beat anything. I just want a simple program, that hopefully can be free. which will simply compress your CSS code. I have heard a lot of good things about TopStyle. Although I usually like coding in an environment which doesn't interfere with my coding. (I dont know if it

RE: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed

2004-06-16 Thread Mike Pepper
Count me in, Chris. I use TSP3.1, and it's good. But I'm open to ideas. Mail me details and schedules off list. Mike PepperAccessible Web Developerwww.seowebsitepromotion.comwww.gawds.org

Re: [WSG] scrolling area

2004-06-16 Thread Justin French
On 15/06/2004, at 4:21 PM, Jake Badger wrote: From having a quick play with those scrollers they seem to do exactly what you want when both CSS and JavaScript are off but not when just one is off. I guess the question is how many people actualy browse like that (one on/ one off). Lots is my

[WSG] help with a js

2004-06-16 Thread Marie
Is this the right place to ask? I have a _javascript_ on my page at http://marie-str.com to make the fairy at the bottom of my page float down with the page - a watermark. Here's the problem - she works perfectly in Opera 7.5 - drops down to the extreme left in Firefox .8, and just sits

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-16 Thread Ryan Christie
Well, I'm with Mike Kear on this one one hundred percent... Agreeing on standards is like McDonald's and Burger King agreeing to have the same type of french fry recipe. Where is the secret sauce that makes you want to go their restaurant? And where is the reason why I should use one browser

[WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
This may be good news for standards. http://www.itweek.co.uk/News/1155868 : Ubizen has advised computer users to switch to alternative web browsers like Netscape or Mozilla for the moment. Also at: http://www.ubizen.com/c_about_us/2_public_relations/2004/040611_e.html Now the question is will

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-16 Thread Patrick Griffiths
Ubizen has advised computer users to switch to alternative web browsers like Netscape or Mozilla for the moment. Now the question is will anybody switch? Wow. Wouldn't it be great if people did? I think what would be better than individuals switching would be for computer manufacturers to

[WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread Veine K Vikberg
and I am probably missing something really simple; This is the page in question: http://nrotc.mainemaritime.edu/goals.html (css in separate file) This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict and before jigsaw went down, the CSS was having no errors as well. It also passes as Section 508 (which are the

[WSG] IE4 /Win

2004-06-16 Thread Hanni Ross
Hi Just a quick question. How good is IE4/win standards wise? Are there any particular problems that are widely known with regards to CSS etc? Thanks, Hanni * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
Patrick Griffiths wrote: I think what would be better than individuals switching would be for computer manufacturers to pre-install Mozilla or Opera on PC's. It would be nice if Opera would do this. I don't see it as a possibility with Mozilla for a very simple reason: money. Another possibility,

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
I wouldnt bother with Netscape 7.1 Valdiation. Rebuild your site somewhat so it works in Opera IE Mozilla 1.6+ Netscape hasnt got long left till it passes on. Camz. www.t94xr.net.nz - Original Message - From: Veine K Vikberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Doesn't look like it, as Mozilla is taking over a whole chunk of the browser market, however, there will always be a large population on Netscape as the university/college systems are still in Netscape, some as far back as 4.x. Still, I would like to get this one to function but am stuck to get

Re: [WSG] IE4 /Win

2004-06-16 Thread James Ellis
Hanni My opinion is don't bother, it's not worth the effort. Users still with this browser should be pushed to upgrade for various reasons, not just for the benefits of standards support they bring. Any user who approaches me complaining about a site that doesn't work in IE4, NN4, Opera 5 or

Re: [WSG] IE4 /Win

2004-06-16 Thread Ben Bishop
Hi Hanni, How good is IE4/win standards wise? Are there any particular problems that are widely known with regards to CSS etc? The first result from http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ie4+css+bugs RichInStyle.com CSS bug table http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/table.html RichInStyle.com also

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread Chris Stratford
True, at my uni they have IE6.0 and Netscape 7.1 I actually enjoy using the netscape browser its very good! Veine K Vikberg wrote: Doesn't look like it, as Mozilla is taking over a whole chunk of the browser market, however, there will always be a large population on Netscape as the

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, at 06:36 AM, Veine K Vikberg wrote: My main problem is the blasted unordered list where the bullets disappear in IE, and the picture going off to the left in Opera. I don't see any css declaration at all for the ul; add one and you can control bullet position. For

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread Lucian Teo
Looks fine on Safari and Firefox. Things are a little out of alignment in Opera 6.03 / Mac. Don't really see the problems you described. Lucian On Jun 17, 2004, at 4:36 AM, Veine K Vikberg wrote: http://nrotc.mainemaritime.edu/goals.html * The

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Actually, I switched the layout around so the picture is not floated right instead of left. And as for the ul I added it on the p declaration within that div, to no avail. A friend pointed out that IE has a problem with the bullets, as they are treated as images, and got left aligned as well

Re: [WSG] file extensions

2004-06-16 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
I agree...definitely not a clean URL and it would be a major headache. Sam, OS X doesn't use file extensions in that manner. They're there for compatibility's sake when in mixed environments. The OS still figures out the type from the metadata in the file, it just requires extensions to ensure

[WSG] Inheritance question

2004-06-16 Thread Tim Yang
Hi I remember reading about a syntax that when applied to an element would force all the elements contained within that element to inherit the properties of the container element. Is there really such a syntax? if so, how do I write it? I tried googling for it, but all I got were pages

[WSG] Middle Div gets shoved around in IE

2004-06-16 Thread Roger Williams
In IE for Mac or PC the middle div gets bumped around: www.yogavillage.net I have set all the widths accordingly and the middle div gets a min-width of 430 px which is wider than the center graphic. Any ideas? i have a feeling that this is an IE hack but I have no idea which one. thanks,

Re: [WSG] Have stared too long

2004-06-16 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:20:03 -0400, Veine K Vikberg wrote: As for the Safari, I could use a ss of that if you can make me one, as I have no clue to how much etc. Hello Veine, FYI - the splendid Daniel Vine offers free screen shots on iCapture: http://www.danvine.com/icapture/ This for Safari

[WSG] WIN IE 5.0 6 CSS quirks

2004-06-16 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi all, Long time member, very few posts, but have enjoyed reading all of yours, and am grateful for all the insights. Thanks also to Russ for his presentations which have got me out of numerous sticky situations! I would appreciate feedback on the following (personal) site:

Re: [WSG] Middle Div gets shoved around in IE

2004-06-16 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, at 02:40 PM, Roger Williams wrote: In IE for Mac or PC the middle div gets bumped around: www.yogavillage.net I have set all the widths accordingly and the middle div gets a min-width of 430 px which is wider than the center graphic. Any ideas? i have a feeling that