IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread James Ellis
Hi Not wanting to hijack the PNG thread, so I've altered the subject. I understand the issues involve in huge migrations, it's not that easy.. especially if your systems have a vested interest in some piece of obsolete technology.. but there are two things that strike me as odd here - - IE7

Re: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Another problem is that there are organisations which still have large investments in a legacy O/S (MS included) on which IE7/8 cannot run. So it's not just a time issue for downloading the browser, but upgrading to a new O/S. On Mon, August 4, 2008 8:03 am, James Ellis wrote: Hi Not wanting

Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A dl is a LIST of definition terms and their description. dt is a definition term to be described (not title). dd is description of the definition term. See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3 On Mon, August 4, 2008 4:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was under

[WSG] what you write is what you see [OT?]

2008-08-04 Thread dwain
my cousin is visiting from oregon and he has the new att iphone. we looked at my web site on it and i must say that i was really surprised. it looked just like it does on a computer. the xhtml and css validate. i used no special css for mobile devices. i'm sure that i have a semantically

RE: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread michael.brockington
Not wanting to hijack the PNG thread, so I've altered the subject. I understand the issues involve in huge migrations, it's not that easy.. At the risk of starting a war, it doesn't sound like you do understand. Before even starting to plan a migration, any decent corporation, of whatever

Re: [WSG] what you write is what you see [OT?]

2008-08-04 Thread kate
Dwain said: it looked just like it does on a computer. What did you expect Dwain..lolol What does look awesome is my Wordpress on Plasma 42 on a lounge wall *OMG! Kate - Original Message - From: dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: web standards group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent:

Re: [WSG] what you write is what you see [OT?]

2008-08-04 Thread dwain
On 8/4/08, kate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain said: it looked just like it does on a computer. What did you expect Dwain..lolol i really didn't know what to expect, that's why it was such a surprise. i don't know, maybe i expected the css not to work and the page would display would

Re: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread James Ellis
Hi Mike No worries, not interested in war, but I do understand. I guess the one big answer about why change is that, over time, sites will just stop working to their full efficiency. There is also the big one called security (or lack of). I hope, but I don't think, that this fabled desktop

Re: [WSG] what you write is what you see [OT?]

2008-08-04 Thread kate
Hi Dwain, I guess yea, it would have looked messy without the CSS...never thought of that. I hav'nt looked on my Samsung but I did see mine on my old Nokia. which I thought was really cool then. I think you can look at any Web now on a cell phone. I also got word from BT this morning

Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
To clarify, when people use a definition list for something other than actual definitions and terms, they usually use the dt's and dd's to represent the relationship of the items within the dl. For example - markup for a list of properties for sale: dl dtPhoto of Property/dt dtAddress

Re: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
Ladies and Gentlemen, The opposite is true as well. I don't do work for large entities - only very small local businesses so I can share their own situation. Theres no question in my mind that these entities make up a huge share of computer usage. This typical office I work has computers

Re: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Horowitz
In playing I've found using the relative positioning working pretty good for me. Is it just a matter of personal preference what I use then? Thanks for the article I really haven't understood negative margins. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com

Re: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list

2008-08-04 Thread Adam Martin
Sorry to come across blunt - but I don't think the web standards group is meant to be a teacher of css. Great that people on here are wanting to learn. But there are plenty of other places dedicated to these sort of things. - Original Message - From: Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list

2008-08-04 Thread David Fuller - magickweb
Adam... I am sorry but I have to disagree whole heartedly... What is the standards group, if not a place where all people can who choose to, can come and gain guidance and learning to become STANDARDS COMPLIANT??? It would appear that this is exactly what the group is for... I've mentioned this

WSG promoting standards via teaching? Re: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list

2008-08-04 Thread Ian Chamberlain
I suspect there is more than a grain of truth in both David and Adams views. If places like this are to reach the widest possible audience they must be accessible to all (with reason); ditto to be a usable standards debating forum we should be debating the finer points not spending ALL our time

RE: WSG promoting standards via teaching? Re: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list

2008-08-04 Thread David Fuller - magickweb
Well hey everybody... It would appear Andrew has decided to take his comments out of the public view and turn them personal... Please read.. On Aug 1, 2008, at 2:31 PM, David Fuller - magickweb wrote: group does NOT have to be SPECIFICALLY about web standards Perhaps not, but totally

Re: [WSG] form from hell - difficult redesign

2008-08-04 Thread Jessica Enders
Hi Kevin I'm no developer, but I can certainly advise on the *design* component of the project, if that would be of some assistance. I have designed GUIs for a travel and hotel booking engines before and as Joe Ortenzi says, I've been doing some research lately on tabular data. Feel