Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-25 Thread Bob Schwartz
Stuart, I did as you suggested. I now have another bi-lingual site to do and was wondering if there is a way to mark up for languages (Italian/English) something like: nome/name span class perhaps? Seems like it would add a lot of bytes to the page. The declared language on the document wi

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness

2007-03-21 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
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Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-21 Thread BKDesign Solutions
From: "Bob Schwartz" OK. I've fixed them all but one and I'm at a loss to how to fix it. Dreamweaver is complaining that I am using this more than once to point to different URL's Any thoughts? Bob Get rid of dreamweaver? ;) Bruce P bkdesign ***

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness

2007-03-21 Thread BKDesign Solutions
The below sounds like a good way to discourage using this list. Bruce P bkdesign - Original Message - From: "Mike Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:54 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness Bo

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-21 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, I think Dreamweaver is complaining about using the same link text to point to different URLs not the other way round (It is OK to use different link text to point to the same URL). In your menu you have: rss feed Below you have another link to a different URL (http://www.fifeweb.org/feed/fi

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-21 Thread Bob Schwartz
Stuart, Your menu has links with the same anchor text but different destinations - "introduction", "current" and "members". When you can see the menu structure the context is obvious but when using a screen reader this can be confusing. OK. I've fixed them all but one and I'm at a loss t

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness

2007-03-21 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Since Bob was effectively asking for a peer review of his web design prior to publication, I would have thought this was an entirely legitimate use of this forum. We can all learn new techniques from each other as part of this process, with the result that we all increase the quality of our W

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread Mike Brown
Bob Schwartz wrote: Lots and lots and lots of emails about his site! There were 6 I just received within a 30 min period, another 5 within 30 mins this morning ... :( Bearing in mind that there's over 2000 people on the list, and that there's already a lot of list traffic, and that all of these

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Philip, It looks like the site may have problems displaying at widths of less than 1000px in Opera 9 and Firefox. The backgrounds don't stay within the three columns properly, leaving some text unreadable. Probably an issue with div positioning, and the box model since the problem doesn't

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Kenny, Your cites should probably not be in their own paragraphs if the cite can be styled directly. I took the cites out of the paragraphs and the page did not pass w3 validation, I put them back in and it did. Bob *** Lis

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
In my primary style sheet I got 29 warnings like this: Same colors for color and background-color in two contexts .month and h5 As there are no h5's with a .month class anywhere in the site, I would assume I can just ignore these types of warnings, but it bugs me that the style sheet does no

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
I ran my style sheets through the w3 validator and in the style sheet that comes with ThickBox I got the following errors. They seem to me to be CSS hacks that the author has used to solve problems with different browsers. Should I leave them, or fix them? #TB_overlay Parse Error - opacity

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
OK, you convinced me. Your reason for doing so is far more valid than my lame reasoning with the Danone and Armani examples. Thanks. On Tue, March 20, 2007 11:56 am, Bob Schwartz wrote: You should also perhaps markup your "logo" H1 content as a change from the declared natural language of

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Tue, March 20, 2007 11:56 am, Bob Schwartz wrote: >> You should also perhaps markup your "logo" H1 content as a change >> from the >> declared natural language of the page (English). > > Thanks for you tips Stuart: > > 1. How do I do that? > 2.I'm curious as to why you think it is necessary -

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread Jorge Laranjo
An try to use http://www.sidar.org/hera/ (you can choose you're language) to check your site And you're site has 1 error for the Priority 3: Keyboard shortcuts: No keyboard shortcuts provided. Em 2007/03/20, às 18:46, Bob Schwartz escreveu: In the test site I put up the other day for "scrut

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time - IE weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread Jorge Laranjo
The '&' should be escaped as & You can see that you've only got one 'warning' and that's it! http:// tinyurl.com/2m4pey Em 2007/03/20, às 18:46, Bob Schwartz escreveu: In the test site I put up the other day for "scrutiny" http:/// www.fotografics.it/fife/ I have discovered a funny one

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Rob, The navigation is dependent on javascript for the flyouts which not only do the flyouts cease to work when js is turned off they also become dead links leaving only a partial working menu. What browser - OS are you using? In everything I've checked it in, the links are not dead with

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Stuart, Your menu has links with the same anchor text but different destinations - "introduction", "current" and "members". When you can see the menu structure the context is obvious but when using a screen reader this can This is a real head-scratcher. I'm having trouble finding other w

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Nick, As no screenreaders read title attributes by default (and no screenreader user ever changes the default setting, apparently) you aren't really deriving any benefit (at least in accessibility terms) from the title attributes, so they might as well go. They were originally put there

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Thanks Kenny, I would appreciate it if you guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practices" Most/every page has two h1's, and there should only be one per page. Ideally, you should keep the h1 for the page title, but not for the site title. I've fixed these (not yet uploaded to te

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Lyn Patterson
During the planning for the site re-do we relied pretty heavily on a year's worth of visitor stats in making decisions. One of the things our stats showed us was the very low percentage of 800 x 600 and below visitors we had, plus people were complaining that the site was looking too small,

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
Thanks Lyn, During the planning for the site re-do we relied pretty heavily on a year's worth of visitor stats in making decisions. One of the things our stats showed us was the very low percentage of 800 x 600 and below visitors we had, plus people were complaining that the site was look

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Schwartz
You should also perhaps markup your "logo" H1 content as a change from the declared natural language of the page (English). Thanks for you tips Stuart: 1. How do I do that? 2.I'm curious as to why you think it is necessary - it is the name of the association - I doubt if Danone or Armani m

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Lyn Patterson
Bob - I was wondering about the width of the #wrappers- 980px/960px which causes horizontal scrolling if viewed on a smaller screen resolution such as 800 x 600. I have always tried to avoid horizontal scolling sometimes with great difficulty - does it not matter so much now that many people a

RE: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Philip Kiff
Bob Schwartz wrote: > The test site at > http://www.fotografics.it/fife/ > has been refurbished [...] I would appreciate it > if you guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practices" It looks like the site may have problems displaying at widths of less than 1000px in Opera 9 and Firefox.

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Rob Unsworth
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Bob Schwartz wrote: > The test site at > > http://www.fotografics.it/fife/ > > has been refurbished to make it more standards compliant, > > before moving on to the accessibility "layer" I would appreciate it if you > guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practic

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, >From an WAI accessibility point of view: Your menu has links with the same anchor text but different destinations - "introduction", "current" and "members". When you can see the menu structure the context is obvious but when using a screen reader this can be confusing. You should also perh

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 3/19/07, Kenny Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some may also say that having a splash screen page (a page with no other navigation other than "enter") is a bad practice, but I think that's more a matter of personal preference. Personally, I'd have links to the major sections of the site,

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 19 Mar 2007, at 14:42:38, Bob Schwartz wrote: The test site at http://www.fotografics.it/fife/ has been refurbished to make it more standards compliant, before moving on to the accessibility "layer" I would appreciate it if you guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practices"

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Kenny Graham
I would appreciate it if you guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practices" Most/every page has two h1's, and there should only be one per page. Ideally, you should keep the h1 for the page title, but not for the site title. Your cites should probably not be in their own paragraphs

Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Looks pretty strong. *Joseph R. B. Taylor* Sites by Joe, LLC /Custom Web Design & Development/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 www.sitesbyjoe.com Bob Schwartz wrote: The test site at http://www.fotografics.it/fife/ has been refurbished to make it more standards compliant,