Re: [WSG] effect of css background repeat-x at high res

2004-03-10 Thread Robert Moser
Neerav blurted out: I was looking at http://www.alistapart.com/d/customcorners2/step2.4.html on my 1024x768 monitor and wondered what would the gradient used for the background using : background: #d3d7e0 url(../images/bg.jpg) repeat-x; look like at a really high resolution because bg.jpg is 1

Re: [WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-10 Thread Robert Moser
Tonico Strasser blurted out: Robert Moser wrote: Then you could have something like this: Albatross A sea bird A tasty snack at the movies Swallow Coconut delivery system What about: Albatross A sea bird A tasty snack at the movies Swallow Coconut

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread StBlanz
Hello Manuel, hello list, >How would you mark up an interview? > >a) > >b) >c) Another idea: Isn't it at least a table? f.e.: InterviewerQuestionAnswering PersonAnswer Sam:What are you doing here?Tommy:I prefer eating on the floor than on tables. [and so on...] no flames please :-) Gree

[WSG] Calendars should be marked up with HTML tables...

2004-03-10 Thread davidm
http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_19_using_real_table_headers.html * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] effect of css background repeat-x at high res

2004-03-10 Thread Neerav
Hi I was looking at http://www.alistapart.com/d/customcorners2/step2.4.html on my 1024x768 monitor and wondered what would the gradient used for the background using : background: #d3d7e0 url(../images/bg.jpg) repeat-x; look like at a really high resolution because bg.jpg is 1 px wide x 800 h

Re: [WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-10 Thread Robert Moser
Mark Stanton blurted out: Some definition list related threads: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2003May/0227.html This one is exactly what I was trying to say, with the arguments in a more semantic/XHTML/structural vein. Thanks for all the links. *

Re: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Carl Reynolds
I filter on the [WSG] in the subject line and would suggest that if you want to add other categories, it be done by adding to the [WSG]. For example, [WSG][CSS] subject,or [WSG] - CSS - subject. Justin French wrote: On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 07:28 AM, Taco Fleur wrote: The only do

RE: [WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-10 Thread Mark Stanton
> What would the process be for making such a change? Sign up to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. But a word of warning, be ready to have your idea ripped to shreds. Don't be dishearted by this process, every idea is ripped to shreds on that list - the good ones come through the other end and are inc

Re: [WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-10 Thread Tonico Strasser
Robert Moser wrote: Consider this: you want to put a border around all your individual terms, some of which might have multiple definitions. Using some pretty esoteric CSS3 selectors you might be able to do it, but for the most part, you're just out of luck. ... Then you could have something

RE: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

2004-03-10 Thread P.H.Lauke
*visually* you'd have a table...but what about the structure underneath the shiny facade ? Patrick -Original Message- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 23:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [WSG] L

[WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-10 Thread Robert Moser
One thing that really bothers me about definition lists is that there isn't any way to group together the s and s that belong together. Consider this: you want to put a border around all your individual terms, some of which might have multiple definitions. Using some pretty esoteric CSS3 selec

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Tonico Strasser
Robert Moser wrote: While that would be fine, I personally would prefer: first bit next bit first bit next bit and another bit I prefer this because doing it in the form of multiple s or s in a row loses a bit of the cohesiveness of the back-and-forth nature of a

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Robert Moser
Jackie Reid blurted out: Manuel Gonzlez Noriega wrote: b) doesn't work well for multi-paragraph questions or answers. scuse my ignorance but is it not ok to this: first bit next bit first bit next bit and another bit While that would be fine, I personally would prefer:

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Jackie Reid
> Manuel Gonzlez Noriega wrote: b) doesn't work well for multi-paragraph questions or answers. scuse my ignorance but is it not ok to this: first bit next bit first bit next bit and another bit Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Tonico Strasser
Manuel González Noriega wrote: Hi all, How would you mark up an interview? a) So, how are you doing? Fine, thanks for asking b) So, how are you doing? Didn't you just ask me that on a) c) So, how are you doing? Please, stop it. d) Other This afternoon, at work, we were feeling risky and

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

2004-03-10 Thread Jaime Wong
"As soon as you got into content that had needs columns of info with headings across the top as well as sides I'd go for tables, as the assistive markup (ids and headers) would help blind users. As I said, all personal opinion!" You just enlightened me! Thanks :) With Regards Jaime Wong ~

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:39:06 +0100, Manuel González Noriega wrote: > a) > So, how are you doing? > Fine, thanks for asking > I would go for a), except I would do it as follows: JoeSo, how are you doing? SamFine, thanks for asking I think I marked up a script this way, once. m2cw Lea -- Lea

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Robert Moser
Manuel Gonzlez Noriega wrote: How would you mark up an interview? a) qa b) qa c) qa d) Other This afternoon, at work, we were feeling risky and went for a) and i'm curious if you think it's fine, plain wrong or so-so. I'd think it would be situation dependent. a) doesn't work well if there are mult

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Justin French
On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 10:39 AM, Manuel González Noriega wrote: How would you mark up an interview? a) So, how are you doing? Fine, thanks for asking This seems most appropriate, given that a conversation/dialogue is given as an example usage of a DL in the specs. b) So, how are yo

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

2004-03-10 Thread David McDonald
Yes, I have used this concept (floats) before for a calendar. If anyone wants the code, feel free to contact me off list. David McDonald Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:57:06 +1100

Re: [WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread russ weakley
Option A is completely acceptable, and is actually very close to a W3C example: Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing his or her words. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-list.html#edef_list_dt Russ > > Hi all, >

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

2004-03-10 Thread James Ellis
I believe Calendars would be a great use of floats, just set a height and width, float left limit the row float to seven days and you have a cascading day based calendar. Cheers James Jaime Wong wrote: Just a quick question Russ to make sure I understand better. Calendars and events (with date

[WSG] A kinda Simplequiz

2004-03-10 Thread Manuel González Noriega
Hi all, How would you mark up an interview? a) So, how are you doing? Fine, thanks for asking b) So, how are you doing? Didn't you just ask me that on a) c) So, how are you doing? Please, stop it. d) Other This afternoon, at work, we were feeling risky and went for a) and i'm curious

Re: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Kristof Neirynck
Justin French wrote: You can also filter on the "[WSG]" in the subject, which is fool-proof. I'd rather not. That would filter out offlist messages as well. I filter on the "to" field. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kristof * The discussion list for ht

[WSG] More links for light reading

2004-03-10 Thread Mark Stanton
How to debug CSS: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/03/10/css_problems/index.php Google goes anti semantic (h1's are to easily abused): http://www.sitepoint.com/article/brandy-google-update Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388

Re: [WSG] Cascading background colors

2004-03-10 Thread Chris Blown
Thank you.. Mr Weakley. :D > > Does all of this make sense? If not, there is more on specificity here: > http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/advanced_conflict.htm > > Forgive me for sounding like a school teacher :) > Russ > > * Th

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

2004-03-10 Thread russ weakley
Jamie, I assume you mean "tables or lists" rather than" tables or CSS"? Whether you use tables or lists you should probably be using CSS in some form to control the presentation of this content - keeping in mind that one of our aims is to remove all presentation from the actual page and instead us

Re: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Justin French
On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 07:28 AM, Taco Fleur wrote: The only downside is that mailing list is that it is hard to organise it to specific folders. I have a folder for WSG but 90% of the mail ended up in my inbox instead because the "from field" is actually using the sender's name.\] You

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Jaime Wong
Doh stupid me. And I just change my email for the list so WSG won't get all jumbled up with the other lists. lol Thanks for the tips still ;) With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message---

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Message The only downside is that mailing list is that it is hard to organise it to specific folders. I have a folder for WSG but 90% of the mail ended up in my inbox instead because the "from field" is actually using the sender's name.    Thats when you base your rule on the TO: fiel

Re: [WSG] Lists & weird requirement

2004-03-10 Thread Jaime Wong
Just a quick question Russ to make sure I understand better. Calendars and events (with dates and venue) or even for e.g. certain competition results (with points) would be more suitable to be done with tables rather than CSS right? With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires

[WSG] Code is food

2004-03-10 Thread russ weakley
Photomatt has come up with a great analogy for why good code is important: http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/03/10/code-is-food/ Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

Re: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Russ wrote in... Re: [WSG] Cascading background colors The important question is - do you know why it worked the second time around? The answer is that the second rule has more "specificity"... The above is a perfect example of the purpose of this mailing list. Russ' reply to Peter's "how to

Re: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Jaime Wong
I think I am a lil late to contribute here but I would like to say that I agree with Justin. Forums are a good tool for organising topics but for some who are too busy to take the trouble to log into forums and check the posts, it is a turn off.   I would prefer for the list to remain as it

Re: [WSG] Style Switcher and IE

2004-03-10 Thread Jaime Wong
Wow the list sure is active during weekdays! Sorry just got around checking my list mail.   I am not behind a firewall at all and did not use any programs such as firewall.   If the site is showing/working for you guys then I guess the problem is with my computer. I will not be so worried the

RE: [WSG] Links for light reading...

2004-03-10 Thread Peter Firminger
Also of some interest, maybe a bit old... Aug 7 2003 http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1388637 Paul Ford from ftrain.com on web standards. Nice to hear NPR on a topic close to my heart. I'm available for an interview too! (my public broadcasting (ABC) background showing through

Re: [WSG] best ways to "sell" web standards

2004-03-10 Thread Justin French
On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, at 09:00 PM, Andy Budd wrote: My question really would be, why do you have to convince them to use web standards at all. I'd say you should tell them that's how you build sites, just as a PHP programmer will tell their clients that they use PHP. Most clients don't

Re: [WSG] Links for light reading...

2004-03-10 Thread Gavin Thomas
With regard to the rounded corners not working in IE ONe that does work in IE is the alistapart version http://www.alistapart.com/d/customcorners2/step2.4.html _ Gavin Thomas University of the West of England Academic Technologies Group [ATG]

[WSG] Links for light reading...

2004-03-10 Thread russ weakley
The Web Standards Awards - run by Johan Edlund, Andy Budd, Cameron Adams has announced their first "site of the month". http://www.webstandardsawards.com/previous/the_85th_pga_championship.html#7 Also worth browsing their previous weekly Web Standards Awards winners: http://www.webstandardsawards.

Re: [WSG] Cascading background colors

2004-03-10 Thread russ weakley
Peter, The important question is - do you know why it worked the second time around? The answer is that the second rule has more "specificity". Before you added the td to the second rule, the first rule was more specific, so the second rule was ignored. When you added the td into the second rule

Re: [WSG] best ways to "sell" web standards

2004-03-10 Thread Andy Budd
My question really would be, why do you have to convince them to use web standards at all. I'd say you should tell them that's how you build sites, just as a PHP programmer will tell their clients that they use PHP. Most clients don't care how the site is built, they care about the end product.

RE: [WSG] Purpose of this mailing list

2004-03-10 Thread Verhoeve, ing. T.A.C.
Hi all, I am not for multiple lists (I am already subscribed to so many...). When I joined this list, I was looking for a place where all aspects of webstandards would be openly discussed. This means: software that uses webstandards, how-to's for PHP/CSS/(x)HTML/etc, but also theory. This list ha