Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: It is also much easier to inform our visitors how they can fix things at their end, if it actually works. If you forgive the tongue in cheek tone: Patrick, no problem. Could have been me if English was my first language. I might have added some

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: It is also much easier to inform our visitors how they can fix things at their end, if it actually works. If you forgive the tongue in cheek tone: "Dear user, does the text on this page seem too big? Although most other sites you may visit on a regular basis have text that is

[WSG] Interview with Dean Edwards

2005-05-20 Thread The Bo$$
Not sure if this is on-topic, but I've taken Russ's job and asked Dean Edwards (of IE7 and WHATWG fame) a few questions regarding IE7, his WaSP status, and general web speak. You can see it at dantecubed.com/publications/dean-edwards-interview/. -- Dante dantecubed.com: Web Design, Development & m

Re: [WSG] Web site help

2005-05-20 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:25:30 -0400, The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not sure if the following is off topic. I can not see why http://infoforce-services.com/guidedog/index.htm scrolls fine in Firefox 1.013 and Not in IE6. Also I am not sure what is

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread sam sherlock
This tangent has gotten quite interesting and turned out to be very informative indeed here is a basic prototype of a site I am making, still early doors yet http://s107442706.websitehome.co.uk/kos5/flash/ I am using flashObject to place the swf in the page. users with a version of flash les

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tom Livingston wrote: I guess where I am going with this is that, IMO, no one here is wrong. The _vast_ majority of users are going to see the site as intended, and those who are not happy with the text size have the ability to change it to suit them. If a user needs larger type due to low visi

Re: [WSG] Web site help

2005-05-20 Thread Juergen Auer
Hello again: There is really a standard-problem: Your meta http-equiv="Content-Type" says that the page is saved as UTF-8 but the page is saved in ASCII. Looking the source with FireFox 1.0 shows a lot of funny symbols, you have a lot of Hex-code FFFD inside. Best Regards Juergen Auer http

Re: [WSG] Web site help

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Juergen Auer wrote: Search Raising a Guide Dog Puppy Before there is a missing quotation mark (it's not there, this is the problem). There's also about a hundred other validation issues with that markup. This may require quite a bit of work to fix completely. -- Patrick H. Lauke __

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 5/20/05, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And from that sample, how many of those users know how to change the > > default size of the text displayed in their browser? > > I'm at a loss to think of any reason how an answer to this might be > relevant to choosing whether to respect vis

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On May 19, 2005, at 6:12 PM, russ - maxdesign wrote: The font size discussion is interesting and relevant. I found this while reading about styling forms: From usability.com.au: "Also, many users find the default font size on Websites is often too small for comfortable reading. This only becomes a

Re: [WSG] Web site help

2005-05-20 Thread Juergen Auer
On 20 May 2005 at 13:25, The Man With His Guide Dog At wrote: >I can not see why > http://infoforce-services.com/guidedog/index.htm scrolls fine in Firefox > 1.013 and Not in IE6. Hello, FireFox shows links, so there must be an error with the html- elements. Search Raising a Guide Dog

[WSG] Web site help

2005-05-20 Thread The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store
I am not sure if the following is off topic. I can not see why http://infoforce-services.com/guidedog/index.htm scrolls fine in Firefox 1.013 and Not in IE6. Also I am not sure what is controlling my list color. Any help is appreciated? And any comnments are welcome. Angus MacKinnon MacKinn

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Felix Miata
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > Outside web development discussion groups, the people over 40 I've > > personally come in contact with are almost unanimous in complaining most > > web sites have text that is too small, > And from that sample, how many of those users know how

RE: [WSG] Definition Lists

2005-05-20 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Definition lists are the new black. I love them to death and they make me look thinner. Or something like that. You can use a definition list with one term and one definition. I've used them for photos with captions or galleries with multiple image/title combinations that float next to each other

Re: [WSG] Definition Lists

2005-05-20 Thread Chris Stratford
I dont think a list has to mean multiple entities... I think one item on the list is perfectly fine. Although I havn't checked the DTD - because maybe it requires two or more. but AFAIK - it only requires ONE or more list title and definition... :) Peter Costello wrote: Quick question about DLs I w

[WSG] Definition Lists

2005-05-20 Thread Peter Costello
Quick question about DLs I want to use a definition list to mark up particular items throughout a page. Definition Title > Definition Data I guess my question is, is it semantically ok to use a definition list when the list has only one item (which technically is not a list)? However, even thoug

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Andy Budd
I can't see what the point is. The W3C has no control over Java or many other technologies that are proprietry or closed, but that does not stop them from becoming or meeting W3C standards or compliance. The original question asked why the W3C hadn't written a spec for Flash. My answer still st

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering True, but that does mean that the W3C is in a position to release a spec for the *format*. I can't see what the point is. The W3C has no control over Java or many other technologies that are proprietry or closed, but that does not stop them fro

RE: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Geoff Deering > >True, but that does mean that the W3C is in a position to release > >a spec for the *format*. > > I can't see what the point is. The W3C has no control over > Java or many > other technologies that are proprietry or closed, but that > does not stop > them from becoming or

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick Lauke wrote: Geoff Deering It's actually the other way around, companies and organisation developing technologies are encourage to develop them according to W3C recommendations. That still does not detract from the fact that the Flash format is not a W3C technology. The U

Re: [WSG] W3C and Flash

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Prabhath Sirisena wrote: Until Flash becomes an open specification, we'll have the song and dance. Making it an open spec won't happen because Adobe won't really benifit from the deal. Prabhath http://nidahas.com I don't think it has to be an open specification at all. It can remain closed and

Re: [WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)

2005-05-20 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
> Depends on the definition of "open specification", I guess. Exactly. I was using the term "open" as in Free and Open Source. And as you mentioned, Flash satay is as close as you can get to keeping the code clean - sticking to the object tag and relying on the cascade. Prabhath http://nidahas.

RE: [WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Prabhath Sirisena > Until Flash becomes an open specification, we'll have the song and > dance. Making it an open spec won't happen because Adobe won't really > benifit from the deal. Depends on the definition of "open specification", I guess. Macromedia have released the format spec publicly u

RE: [WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
> designer > Putting it at the simplest level, I think the question is: > "given that Flash > can be a powerful tool, and that it is sufficiently > liked/desired to be > given serious consideration, why do we have this song and dance to > incorporate it into otherwise valid/compliant documents?

RE: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Geoff Deering > It's actually the other way around, companies and organisation > developing technologies are encourage to develop them > according to W3C > recommendations. That still does not detract from the fact that the Flash format is not a W3C technology. > The UAAG applies to Flash.

Re: [WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)

2005-05-20 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
> Putting it at the simplest level, I think the question is: "given that Flash > can be a powerful tool, and that it is sufficiently liked/desired to be > given serious consideration, why do we have this song and dance to > incorporate it into otherwise valid/compliant documents? Until Flash becom

[WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)

2005-05-20 Thread designer
Surely, the point we are at with Flash is analogous to the early days of the web, when you couldn't even put a picture in your document. You could only have text. As time went on, it became desirable to include 'pictures' and so the web (html) developed a stage further. Putting it at the simples

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Geoff Deering
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: And now I just realised that the original question was not about accessibility, but about specifications in general (such as the XHTML/CSS/etc ones). In which case, even more of a reason why the W3C can't release a spec for Flash: it's not their technology. They can't re

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
> Is flashObject the best method for encorperating flash into pages? > as aposed to others plain mark up (object / embed), flash Satay, or sIFR > I think sIFR should be left out of this because it's goal is different. You can't have general flash content with sIFR - it's for typographical enh

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread sam sherlock
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So. On 5/19/05, Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nancy Johnson wrote: Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so why? Because Flash is a proprietary product! So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only defi

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only define guidelines for making official W3C technologies accessible. And now I just realised that the original question was not about accessibility, but about specifications in general (such as the XHTML/CSS/etc ones).

Re: [WSG] make poverty history website

2005-05-20 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So. On 5/19/05, Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nancy Johnson wrote: Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so why? Because Flash is a proprietary product! So, the W3C is the web's standards body, and they only define guidelines for making