Got this from a friend. it comes in handy as I am taking a CSS 2.1
class right now and the first and second week assignments are selectors.
http://disruptive-innovations.com/zoo/selectorBuilder/
selectorBuilder.xul
It can only open in Firefox by the way.
tee
Thanks, Christain. I didn't think of doing that.
Adam
On 9/24/05, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the problem here might have to do with the fact that your XHTML is invalid. Please run every page through the validator and fix all the errors. There are definitely elements on
'And I agree Sam, having movement like that behind text is one of the
worst
things you can do.'
I think that was meant as an example.
If this trick is used in a more ambiant way it could be really useful.
Maybe just have some image substitution for opera until a solution is found.
Just got
this from a Killersites.com, what do you think of the
article
The Web Standards Lie: How the Web Standards movement has gone too
far.?
From: Stefan Mischook
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005
7:37 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
Ignore it,
its a troll
john
On 26/09/2005, at 7:44 PM, Craig Rippon wrote:
Just got this from a Killersites.com, what do you think of the article
The Web Standards Lie: How the Web Standards movement has gone too
far. ?
From: Stefan Mischook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 26
Well Martin, I got to the conclusion that there is no standard way to get rid of thespace bitween the two frames in a standard way: cellspacing=0 is out of xhtml, and no css style will take away that space, so out with the frames, I'll make the header a php include.
As for the extending issue, I
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From: Craig Rippon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 7:44 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] FW: Killersites.com Newsletter - Not another
nerd newsletter!
Just got this from a Killersites.com, what do you think of the
I think he's really just trying to stir up something controversial and
attract people to his site.
Surely anyone who was really serious about their own reputation and business
would actually think about what they were saying, and research their
point(less) before posting it... wouldn't they?
hi,
What is the background CSS hack for Saffari on a Mac?
http://jeronimo.net.au see example.
Jez.
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:56 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: digest for
Has the CSS validator (the W3C one) just become a whole lot more pedantic?
Sites that previously came out with a clean slate now throw up lots of
warnings.
I mean.. You'd expect sites made by people in the Features section of
the WSG site to be perfect. I checked a few of them at random.
Lynx is text-only in the really old computer sense of the word. It
can't display italics, only different text colors and background
colors. This isn't a problem though. Displaying blockquotes as
indented italics is just a popular way for graphical browsers to
display them by default. It's not
The CSS validator has a few new bugs mentioned recently on here. It's
throwing errors where it shouldn't be, like on some integers that
don't have .0 after them. Hopefully it'll get fixed soon.
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What a laugh. I especially love this
quote...
"Since when are using Floats for page-level layout, semantically correct?
Floats are designed to float images within the context of a paragraph. Yet
many designs that are supposedly Web Standards compliant, use floats to create
page
I thought you were being serious :p
Im considering doing a BA course in Design atm personally. Even with
my 7 years experience Im getting nowhere. I am talented which makes
it more annoying.
On 26 Sep 2005, at 02:07, Duncan Heal wrote:
Thanks but I think my BA in Design Studies and 8
Jon Dawson wrote:
http://www.jomni.com/sandbox/flash_bg/
Not sure I know what it's supposed to look like.
Opera 8.5 is presenting 3 lines of text on a gray background (default, I
think), and a moving white box behind the text.
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/flashbgnd_op85_win2k.png
Opera
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Please remove me from your list. I cancelled last week and got confirmation but for some reason I'm still getting emails.
Thank you,
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ADMIN
Please remember that these sorts of request should not be sent out the
entire list, they should be sent to info@webboy.net
Sending messages of this sort out to the list is akin to standing up in the
middle of an opera and telling the entire audience that you need to go to
the toilet.
:)
The only problem with this is sometimes when you right-click (if you ever need to right click) you get the Flash right-click options. You might also get certain Flash cursors instead of the default browser cursors.
On 9/26/05, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'And I agree Sam, having movement
Zach Inglis napsal(a) dne 26.9.2005 14:14:
Im considering doing a BA course in Design atm personally. Even with my
7 years experience Im getting nowhere. I am talented which makes it
more annoying.
Eg. I am considering leaving the BA studies (Multimedia Design) to do
something more
I can never believe that people like that still exist. Even when I see it, I find it hard to believe. It isn't even worth contesting it. No point arguing with someone who has already ignored the facts.
Hello,
I am in Sydney this week for a conference and will be back on the 3rd October.
I will check my email regularly, but for urgent requests please SMS me a
summary of the problem and send me though a detailed email. Please contact
Haymarket for the mobile number to send the SMS.
Regards,
Hi,
Just to put the cat amongst the peigons - some of the points raised are
valid IMHO.
and by the by so is the mark up. I think he is off mark on the use of styles
My position is about temperance - moderation
‘reality in the field’ and not some ivory-tower specification - the
reality and
Hi All
I have a quick question.
I am looking for the latest version of using flash to replace header text.
Is this the best approach? My feeble mind remembers an improved version out
there in standardista-space.
http://www.shauninman.com/plete/2004/04/ifr-revisited-and-revised
Thanks
Ted
Drake, Ted C. wrote:
Hi All
I have a quick question.
I am looking for the latest version of using flash to replace header text.
Is this the best approach? My feeble mind remembers an improved version out
there in standardista-space.
Any site using sIFR in FF cramps the text into an unreadable mass, the
flash is not used and I am left with illegible text
I have flash block installed, sIFR detects flash block and does not
display the flash. The css leaves he text unreadable
is this only me?
Drake, Ted C. wrote:
Ya know, I'm by all means no professional web designer, nor do I design
sites for anyone but myself... and my sites, at best, are only small
personal websites where I can display the few pixel and photoshop
goodies that I create in my spare time, blab a little about myself, my
goals, and how
On 9/26/05, sam sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,Just to put the cat amongst the peigons - some of the points raised arevalid IMHO.Regardless of whether he has valid points or not, I think he is wrong from the start. Talk like this is part of the problem, not the solution. He's leading people
Christian Montoya wrote:
The only problem with this is sometimes when you right-click (if you
ever need to right click) you get the Flash right-click options. You
might also get certain Flash cursors instead of the default browser
cursors.
On 9/26/05, *kvnmcwebn* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have been lucky enough to work with a very experienced java programmer
on the last few sites I have designed. I do all the front end, he does
the database, application, CMS, security and e-commerce development.
The experience has been very pleasurable because of the degree of
separation we
Have you ever seen anything that microsoft makes that makes anything near compliant code? didnt think so If you are going to use .net and want complient code then you will spend a lot of time going back and tweaking the code to get it to comply. From: Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday,
Hi,
I'm searching for inspiration for (2) liquid corporate designs. Would
someone pass along a few URI's?
Chris
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Stuart,
The out of box ASP.NET controls in v1.1 are really quite shocking.
The out of box ASP.NET controls in v2 are XHTML compliant. (However this
doesn't mean they are semantic.)
However, the webforms concept (which uses all these drag n' drop controls)
isn't very good when it comes to the
Not true you just
need to know how to use it properly instead of Microsoft bashing.
If you do want to use
the built in controls and still get compliant markup, I can provide you with a
really simple article on how to do so.
Thanks,
Tatham Oddie
Fuel Advance - Ignite Your
Perfect. http://liquid.rdpdesign.com has some very good professional sites listed. On 9/26/05, Chris Kennon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi,I'm searching for inspiration for (2) liquid corporate designs. Would
someone pass along a few
Stuart Sherwood wrote:
I'm wondering how .net compares as I haven't had the chance yet to
build a site with it?
Current versions of ASP.Net have controls that favour IE over other
browsers by using proprietary code (Eg. validation controls with
Javascript use document.all). I think Microsoft
I remember coming across a fix for Opera that uses
_javascript_, I just don't remember where I saw it now. Sorry!
Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon
DawsonSent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 6:57 PMTo:
wasnt bashing m$ was saying a FACT, you shouldnt have to use a 3rd party tool to get it right and your server-side lang shouldnt destroy your markup without user error. see other reply, the guy was right!! It does obviously favors ie and last i check ie and compliance werent on the same
Not only that, visual studio actually changes valid code into invalid
code. For example t'll remove closing LI tags and capitalise all your
tags. I know that, having tried to get a css/xhtml site with MCMS, at
this stage if you want to make a standards compliant web app C#.NET is
way more
or so sublte its unnoticable and it increases the overall complexity of
the site
SS
kvnmcwebn wrote:
'And I agree Sam, having movement like that behind text is one of the
worst
things you can do.'
I think that was meant as an example.
If this trick is used in a more ambiant way it
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
You need to have a block level container inside your
blockquote...can't just have pure content. So, for instance:
blockquote
phere's the quote/p
/blockquote
While that's true for XHTML, it's not the case for HTML.
It is possible to configure VS.NET to leave your HTML alone:
Tools Options Text Editor HTML/XML and have a look at 'Format'
and 'Html Specific' panels
As far as ASP.NET goes, the most annoying feature built into the
framework is its insistence on serving up different markup to
different
Jachin Sheehy wrote:
That said, I note Stuart qualified his question by saying he had
worked with an experienced Java programmer. Similarly, a good .NET
programmer who is aware of the issues and concerned about web
standards will also be able to help you achieve compliance.
I have worked with
So who's going to the Web Essnetials conference this week?
Anyone interested in a group catch-up?
I thought it might be nice to put some faces to all these names.
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That's a great idea, I'd love to put some faces to names/weird user names :)
Lisa
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2005 2:19 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] WE05 - who's going?
So who's going to the Web Essnetials
I'm going.
Will be doing a little 'live-bloggin' on http://notinteractive.com/
and more professional coverage on http://leftjustified.net/
I'll be up there from Wednesday night and would be keen to catch up
with other WSG members for some warm up drinks :)
Photo:
EDIT: Whoops, that first URL should be http://notinteractive.wordpress.com/
I own notinteractive.com too, but I can't find the FTP details atm and
there's no redirect to the wordpress sub-domain...
Good thing I don't do this stuff for a living! Oh, wait a minute 0_o
On 9/27/05, Andrew
Did you come out last year Kazuhito? I remember someone from Japan came out
last year. :)
lisa
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From: Kazuhito Kidachi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2005 2:50 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] WE05 - who's going?
2005/9/27,
Wow, and I thought five of us coming from Perth was keen...Japan is even
further afield. :)
Be good to meet you all - should we have a secret handshake? :)
I guess the drinks on Thursday night will uncover us all. Maybe someone can
shout out and rustle everyone to put their hand up if they
I'm going, see you there.
Grant
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2005 2:19 PM
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So who's going to the Web Essnetials conference this week?
At least three of us from Darwin are coming yahoo big city, here we
come You'll know us by our thongs and singlets heh.
:) :)
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Hi Lisa,
2005/9/27, Herrod, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Did you come out last year Kazuhito? I remember someone from Japan came out
last year. :)
Yes I did. WE05 gives me my 2nd chance to go down under! :-)
--
Kazuhito Kidachi
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll be there
http://www.flickr.com/photos/webessentials/44913770/
I'll be bloging nowhere, just representing my department. Lucky there
isn't a spot the fed contest like they have at defcon.
On 27/9/2005, Andrew Krespanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going.
Will be doing a little
How about a secret password that you have to sneak into the first 60 seconds
of meeting someone :)..?
Or how about everyone interested just bites the bullet and posts their
photo contact details like I just did?
This secret handshake/signalling in crowded room nonsense isn't going to work.
oh spoil sport!
can't we do both...? :) Just hold up your middle 3 fingers in a 'W' shape
and touch tips as a secret handshake.
ok, just kidding. Seriously, I was...
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From: Andrew Krespanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2005 3:28 PM
To:
Ok, this is me,
http://we04.com/gallery/index.cfm?imgid=dsc_0044
see you there,
Grant
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Krespanis
Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2005 3:28 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] WE05 - who's
Andrew wrote:
Or how about everyone interested just bites
the bullet and posts their photo contact details like I just did?
i'll be there.
here's me: http://c41.com.au/
the secret password is youve been on this list *how* long and your
site still uses tables?
oh. the. horror.
:)
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