Re: [WSG] Form styling

2007-09-26 Thread Dave Woods
Tom, I put this together a while ago which you'll probably find useful http://www.dave-woods.co.uk/?p=91 with it in action here http://www.dave-woods.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/accessible-forms1.html If you group the label with the form field then it's usually much easier to style the

Re: [WSG] Form styling

2007-09-26 Thread Dave Woods
Glad it helped :o) The idea for the span around the legend and div around the fieldset initially came from http://www.tyssendesign.com.au/articles/css/legends-of-style/ This then gave me the idea of including a span around the actual label text as it then provides extra flexibility for styling

Re: [WSG] Form styling

2007-09-27 Thread Dave Woods
Mike, This is exactly the reason why I include the br at the end of the labels so that the form still displays nicely without the styles applied. I suppose a better case could be made for removing the display: block; from the labels in this situation but would be needed if for example you wanted

Re: [WSG] Positioning a background image

2007-10-01 Thread Dave Woods
Alternatively you could introduce and extra div and apply padding/margin to create the effect you need. If the background outside the container is a plain colour you could always apply a border-top or 120px to make it appear as you want. The first will definitely work for your situation whilst

Re: [WSG] Levels of 508 compliance

2007-10-03 Thread Dave Woods
Hi, Are these what you're after? http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ http://www.section508.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContentID=12 Thanks Dave On 03/10/2007, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi listers, Does anyone have a reference (link) to a site that actually spells out what

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-08 Thread Dave Woods
attributes, using semantic HTML, ensuring that JavaScript isn't used for critical functionality etc shouldn't be nice to have's for the client, they should be built in as standard by any reputable web designer. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dave Woods http://www.dave-woods.co.uk

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-08 Thread Dave Woods
of development that they now need to consider accessibility. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dave Woods http://www.dave-woods.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 08/10/2007, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cost of adding accessibility should really be zero. Statements like

Re: [WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Dave Woods
. Hope that helps. Dave - - - - - - - - - - Dave Woods http://www.dave-woods.co.uk On 23/10/2007, Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, iam trying to understand how a page that have 1 or 2 javascript in href could pass in level A of WCAG 1. it have a noscript but that doesnt prove

Re: [WSG] Minimum width help

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Dean, Not sure what these two styles are actually doing but it looks like they're the cause within your menu.css #p7TBMsub03 { padding: 0 0 0 150px; } #p7TBMsub04 { padding: 0 0 0 210px; } Removing them seems to fix the problem with no adverse effect. Cheers Dave - - - - - - - - - - Dave

Re: [WSG] Minimum width help

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Woods
altogether. Hope that helps. - - - - - - - - - - Dave Woods http://www.dave-woods.co.uk On 24/10/2007, Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dean, Not sure what these two styles are actually doing but it looks like they're the cause within your menu.css #p7TBMsub03 { padding: 0 0 0 150px

Re: [WSG] Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Simon, If you have an image for purely presentational purposes then you can use a blank alt attribute alt= However, if it's purely for presentational purposes then you should really apply it using CSS as a background image ;o) Thanks Dave http://www.dave-woods.co.uk On 26/10/2007, Simon

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Woods
As a general rule, any images that add to the content or are required for navigation should be applied as a foreground image using the img tag and an alt attribute should be applied. If an image is purely for presentation then use CSS and apply it as a background image. Obviously there are

Re: [WSG] WCAG conformance and checking

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Woods
Yeah, the webdev toolbar for Firefox has direct links to the cynthiasays (WAI) checker and the section 508 checker along with some other useful tools so if you don't already have it, that's a must for all developers. http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ There's also a colour contrast

Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Woods
Sorry about that, the validator seemed to suggest that you had some image tags that weren't closed and that you were using instead of amp; but having validated it again, it appears fine. Strange. I've had problems with the WAI validator in Firefox sometimes as well, it seems that locally it has

Re: [WSG] CSS display: none has SEO impact?

2007-10-29 Thread Dave Woods
It depends what you're using it for. If it's for black hat search engine tactics which will contain keywords then yes it's bad as it can get you completely banned from Google. If it's for hiding an element of the page which you'll then be displaying using either CSS or JavaScript then it's not

Re: [WSG] CSS display: none has SEO impact?

2007-10-30 Thread Dave Woods
As far as I'm aware, it's not something that Google will automatically ban a site for anyway but if it is being used for black hat tactics then the site is open to being reported by anyone (possibly a competitor) which Google may then do a manual check of and ban the site if they deem the site to

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Mike, I was considering using span's instead of div's for my example but was a little torn between the two as I'd usually use span's for their inline purpose in a block of text or for styling something within an inline element (when obviously a div would be invalid). I suppose in either case

Re: [WSG] CSS/Accessibility question

2007-11-01 Thread Dave Woods
Hi James, I'd always create a site and content so that it initially works and all the content can be reached using just HTML. It certainly won't look all that pretty but by making sure that everything works fine before you add CSS or JavaScript then you're ensuring that the site will be usable

Re: [WSG] Request possible?

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Michael, The overall structure is probably how I'd tackle this but I do have a couple of suggestions. 1 - You don't really need the div for part4 as this seems to just be applying a margin which could be applied directly to #article. 2 - Within the part4infosmall div I wouldn't use a

Re: [WSG] Social Networking Site Software / Script

2007-11-09 Thread Dave Woods
Vanilla is definitely the most standards compliant forum software I've seen. If you wanted to go down the social networking/bookmarking site route then there's some software called pligg which I believe the likes of digg and sphinn use. http://www.pligg.com/ On 09/11/2007, Rahul Gonsalves

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Dave Woods
I'm in a similar position and recently bought the Simply JavaScript book from SitePoint... it's easy to understand and all the books I've seen of theirs in the past have been up to date and use the latest standards so I presume I'm learning the correct way as apposed to following out of date and

Re: [WSG] IE layout glitch on Blog

2007-11-14 Thread Dave Woods
Looks like it's more likely to do with your use of the pre tag. Firefox is allowing the content to overflow into the other container whilst IE6 won't. The easiest fix would probably be to use some kind of overflow: auto; in that section of the page along with a width to force a scrollbar on any

Re: [WSG] Colors for web design

2007-12-14 Thread Dave Woods
Hi, Principles of Beautiful Web Design is worth a read, not only for the information on colours and the theory behind is but there's also plenty of other useful design information especially for web developers who aren't from a design background. http://www.principlesofbeautifulwebdesign.com/

Re: [WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?

2008-01-17 Thread Dave Woods
Hi, Personally, I'd use heading's for the questions and paragraphs for the answers but that's down to my own preference and have seen it done a variety of ways. Cheers Dave - - - - - - - - http://www.dave-woods.co.uk On 17/01/2008, Mike at Green-Beast.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello

Re: [WSG] Where did I come from?

2008-01-18 Thread Dave Woods
I completely agree with most of the comments so far. Why create functionality that is simply replicating the functionality of a browser? There was an article on text resizing a while ago that I'm sure most people are already aware of by Roger Johansson...

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-23 Thread Dave Woods
The first question I'd ask is why not just use check boxes instead of trying to replicate them? If you mark them up correctly then there's really no better accessible method than using the correct element as it was meant. If you go down this route then you're likely to create all kinds of

Re: [WSG] Background images versus image

2008-01-25 Thread Dave Woods
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Woods *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:59 AM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Background images versus image The first question I'd ask is why not just use check boxes instead of trying to replicate them? If you mark

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

2008-01-29 Thread Dave Woods
I just like to ask if it might be possible to turn off this version freezing thing in IE8, maybe with some markup or something. I agree with Drew Mclellan when he said in his blog that old browsers must die. Using an HTML5 doctype will remove the need to include the meta tag. Using edge within

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

2008-02-01 Thread Dave Woods
A better approach would be to switch to a more standards compliant browser like Firefox/Opera or Safari ;o) http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ http://www.opera.com/ http://www.apple.com/safari/ (still appears to be in beta for windows though). If you're a web developer/designer, you should

Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread Dave Woods
Also, think about the important factors first when creating a website. Build something that satisfies the requirements, provides the function/content required, is accessible, usable and uses the latest web standards and if the site falls into the web2.0 category then so be it, if not then really

Re: [WSG] Fwd: navaigation list rendered bad in ie

2008-02-14 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Andrew, As Thierry has pointed out, Zoom will fix this issue but you may want to have a read of the following as it explains the reasons why... http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html For fix width layouts, I'd usually tend to fix this by providing a width (in your case width:

Re: [WSG] Fwd: navaigation list rendered bad in ie

2008-02-14 Thread Dave Woods
... I know there's a lot of people that don't like conditional comments, but it can save A LOT of time. Best Regards, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, As Thierry has pointed out, Zoom will fix this issue but you may want to have a read

Re: [WSG] ie problem

2008-02-15 Thread Dave Woods
Looks like the double margin bug. Try changing this... #navMain ul li a { margin:43px 35px 0 0; border:1px solid black; float:right; display:block; } to this #navMain ul li a { margin:43px 35px 0 0; border:1px solid black; float:right; display:inline; } Hope that helps. On 15/02/2008, kevin

Re: [WSG] Any way to defeat legend styling problems in IE?

2008-02-28 Thread Dave Woods
I'm sure John won't mind me posting a link to his article on the subject... http://www.tyssendesign.com.au/articles/css/legends-of-style/ Hope that helps. 2008/2/28 Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello All - I've already spent a lot of time researching this and - from the threads I've

Re: [WSG] Rogue text appears in IE6.

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Woods
Try getting rid of the comments in your source code. I've not had chance to investigate your code thoroughly but that's usually what causes the duplicate character bug. I'm sure that there are other fixes for it but I personally find that if you've structured your markup correctly, indented

Re: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-09 Thread Dave Woods
Go for the first option... h2section title/h2 ul liapage name 1/a/li liapage name 2/a/li ... /ul Google won't give anymore weight as it'll simply dilute the weight of all your h3 tags so only use them where they're relavant and where they are actually heading up contnet. I'd always advise

Re: [WSG] Thumbnail Floats

2008-04-17 Thread Dave Woods
Personally, I'd use overflow on the container to clear the float's and then add width: 100%; to apply layout for IE7 and below. div#innerContainer ul{margin: 0; padding: 0;* width: 100%; overflow: hidden; *} Hope that helps. Dave - - - - - http://www.dave-woods.co.uk 2008/4/17 Frederick

Re: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-29 Thread Dave Woods
Don't fix or change anything in your site to be compatible with a beta version. The beta version is available so that developers can report problems to Microsoft so that any bugs can be fixed for the final release. By changing your code now, you're likely to find that you'll need to change it

Re: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-29 Thread Dave Woods
. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks like another quagmire is about to open up; funny how I still feel that I am getting over ie6 2008/4/29 Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't fix or change anything in your site

Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate

2008-06-18 Thread Dave Woods
I've downloaded Firebug 1.1 Beta and it seems to work fine with Firefox 3 http://getfirebug.com/releases/ Hope that helps. - - - - - http://www.dave-woods.co.uk 2008/6/18 kate [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hear about so many goodies on my lists I tried to dl Firebug (if our people like it its got