[Spam] :Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

I forgot to include a link to my own (failed) attempt: http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/header_floats.html Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.or

Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

HI Lesley, re: http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/floatdivs_cjapplied.html I wonder why IE is the only one that gets it right? Fascinating. Bob - Original Message - From: "Lesley Lutomski" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

artin.html [2] http://www.rspcacornwall.org.uk/testbed/floatdivs_cjapplied.html - Original Message - From: "Martin Heiden" To: "designer" Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] elasticity and floats Hi Bob! May I add another wrapper di

Re: [WSG] elasticity and floats

Actually Martin, The flexible div does still expand to fit the whole wrapper in FF3 etc. It is disguised by the background colours. If you remove all the bk colours apart from the elastic one, you'll see this in action! :-( Bob - Original Message - From: "designer&qu

Re: [WSG] [Spam] :Menu stacking incorrectly in IE

Same for me - 1 error - I use the w3.org validator and the results are here: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artscouncilnapavalley.org%2Ftest%2Findex.shtml Bob - Original Message - From: "Lesley Lutomski" To: Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:18 PM Subje

[WSG] Problem with onclick and onClick

Can anyone help me with what is a basic question please? I have a library item (in Dreamweaver) which includes an onclick: . . . etc When the library item is inserted (into 37 pages) the format remains lower case and all pages validate, but when uploaded to the server the pages don't validate

Re: [WSG] Problem with onclick and onClick

Precisely! - Original Message - From: "Anthony Gr." To: Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Problem with onclick and onClick How does "onclick" become to "onClick"? 2009/10/14 designer : Can anyone help me with what is a ba

Re: [WSG] Problem with onclick and onClick : SOLVED!

- Original Message - From: Nathanael Boehm To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Problem with onclick and onClick Geez, it's been a while since I've used Dreamweaver ... but I think I had this problem once. Not sure if it was with D

[WSG] Re: More than one H1?

If semantics and SEO are paramount, and typography is too, could you make an H2 which is the same size etc for the 'other' uses of H1? That way, your structure/appearance would be intact, and the SEO considerations satisfied?? Is that undesirable for any reason? Bob - Original Message -

[WSG] skip links

Can anyone point me to the best way of providing a 'skip nav' procedure which is invisible to sighted readers but is picked up by screen readers? It seems a can of worms - I've searched and read about it, but (of course) it is impossible to find out which way is recommended by real world web de

Re: [WSG] skip links

Hi Julie - Original Message - From: Julie Romanowski To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [WSG] skip links Screen magnification users also benefit from "skip" links. Making these links visible help more than just screen reader and keyboa

[WSG] @font-face?

I recently tried a simple @font-face test, via font-squirrel, using a font similar to Bookman. Unless There are tweaks that I don't know, I wouldn't use it on a site that mattered because of the delay. The ordinary font appears, then after some time (seconds, but very noticeable) the embedded f

Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

- Original Message - From: "David Laakso" I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. It's very nice - it's clean, the importance of graphic design/typography shows in the design, and it exhumes a sense of proficiency. I notice that

[WSG] HTML5 book(s)

O.K., so David Laakso's recent mail made me realise that I need (want) to catch up. I looked online for any html 5 books, and there are a LOT! So, could I please have your recommendations on (recent) books which tell the reader 'how to write html 5' Many thanks, Bob *

[WSG] First stab at html5

If any of you guys are around at this time, I'd be really grateful if you could have a look at: http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html It is very simple stuff, but I'd be interested if you could see anything 'wrong'/undesirable/not semantic etc. For example, is it OK to put

Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

Thanks to those who responded. @David: "rivers"? Duh. Please explain. It is New Years Eve, after all! @Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone now! @Rob: - Original Message - From: "Rob Crowther" "The menu element is used to define context menus a

Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

- Original Message - From: "David Laakso" To: It is a term used in typography. Think of a block of text as you would a piece of fine tapestry. On your home page, "squint' your eyes at that text block and you'll see the rivers cascading down the tapestry. Still don't see it? Take

Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

- Original Message - From: "Chris F.A. Johnson" On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, designer wrote: @Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone now! It's still yellow. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster <http://woodbine-gerrar

Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

Hi Dwain, - Original Message -- From: dwain >it seems that you need to validate your pages. flashpage: [snip] there is no doctype and you have a closing style tag with no opening style tag. --- Thanks for looking. The Sheltie s

re: [WSG] First stab at html5

> - Original Message - > From: dwain > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: [WSG] First stab at html5 > > > you're right. but there is no doctype and an end style tag with no starting > style tag. does html5 do away with doctypes and

[WSG] More on understanding html5

I am getting a bit bogged down with this new stuff! I used in this case: Marram Grass and the (experimental) validator said that was fine. Someone pointed out to me that this is 'wrong' and that the should be and : Bubbles at w

Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5

- Original Message - From: "Keryx Web" To: Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5 2010-01-05 13:59, designer skrev: > I am getting a bit bogged down with this new stuff! > I used in this case: is still being discu

Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

Hi David, - Original Message - From: "David Laakso" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:07 AM Subject: [WSG] :: makeready :: Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated. markup css Than

Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

- Original Message - From: "David Laakso" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] :: makeready :: Flattery will get you nowhere (corrections on server). ~d Much better! The menu is static and the red 'buttons' are in harmony with the red headings. Bob

[WSG] @media

Hi all, I have Googled @media but it is hard to get to what I want because Google doesn't seem to recognise the '@'. So, please stick with me whilst I ask some daft questions: 1. Is there a list showing browser support for @media? 2. I want to combine my ordinary CSS with my print style s

Re: [WSG] @media

Thanks for the comprehensive reply! Marvellous! Bob - Original Message - From: "Russ Weakley" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] @media 1. Is there a list showing browser support for @media? Try the ever-helpful Site Point. The chart shows genera

Re: [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 "issues"

No problem in IE7 here! Bob - Original Message - From: Kevin Ireson To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 "issues" Hi all, I have been working through an update to a sit

[WSG] HTML5:

Will html5 not be the 'new standard'? If so, isn't this the place (or one of them) to discuss such things? Or will that just get too confusing? Russ? Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: Elankeeran / இளங்கீரன் V To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: W3C WAI-XTECH ; WAI Intere

[WSG] [Off topic] - icons/clip art/small graphics

Ladies and Gentlemen, Sorry this is off-topic, but I'm at my wits end. I want to get some nice 256x256(ish) icons/clip art to use as small graphics to compliment short entries on a notice board. The subjects vary a lot and so I've decided to attempt to make my own. (you can see the actual pa

Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]

The website for the RSPCA Cornwall (which I provide, voluntarily) has a lot of visitors from all walks of life and represents a reasonable cross section of what users are up to. In the last year, which is a long time I know, some 3663 users of IE6 have visited the site. O.K., so that's only 8

[WSG] content style type

Sorry if this is obvious, but could someone explain to me the value of using: In the section of a page. I can't grasp: a) what exactly it does, b) what is 'missing' if it isn't there? etc. Please. Thanks, Bob *** List

Re: [WSG] content style type

Thanks Gentlemen - I thought so! Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***

[WSG] attribute selectors and validation

In a recent "links for light reading" reference was made to a very interesting article by Chris Coyier on attribute selectors such as 'rel'. http://css-tricks.com/attribute-selectors/ At the very basic level, the article exemplifies h1[rel="external"]{color : red;} used with the html: Attri

Re: [WSG] attribute selectors and validation

- Original Message - From: "Tim White" To: Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] attribute selectors and validation [big snip] That said, attribute selectors are very useful. *** Of course, and it's

Re: [WSG] Getting my feet wet in HTML5

Tom, I have 'played' with the simple elements and I like them. I actually wanted to have a 'page' element (or wrapper) since that is an element that is used an awful lot, but I never got anywhere with folk accepting it. For a simple example, see: http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelan

Re: [WSG] CSS support of HTML5 tags not ready yet?

Tee: try putting: In the head, and/*for html5 in IE*/ article, aside, figure, figcaption, footer, header, mark, menu, nav, section, small, time, video { display : block; } (or whatever is relevant) in your CSS.Bob- Original Message - From: "tee" To: Sent: Monday, Sep

Re: [WSG] attribute selectors to target external and internal links

Forgive me if I'm missing the point here, but if you use: a { color : red; text-decoration : none; border : none; } a[href*="site1"] { color: #f00; background: #555; } a[href*="site2"] { color: #00f; background: #eee; } a[href*="site3"] { color: #0f0; background: #ff0; } It works

[WSG] Touch screens

Do any of you guys have experience with touch screen designing? I looked at an iPAD today, with a view to buying, and I was horrified when I looked at a site of mine that used a spry dropdown menu. It worked sometimes and not others. Is that the norm? - do I have to redesign? If so, what's the

Re: [WSG] Touch screens

Thanks to all for your observations/comments etc. Tee, thanks for your offer : the site is at www.rspcacornwall.org.uk and the menu runs through the whole site. - Original Message - From: tee To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:06 AM Subject:

Re: [WSG] Touch screens

ch screens On Nov 16, 2010, at 1:49 AM, designer wrote: Thanks to all for your observations/comments etc. Tee, thanks for your offer : the site is at www.rspcacornwall.org.uk and the menu runs through the whole site. I am afraid you might have to ditch the

Re: [WSG] alt text on email graphic

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Re: [WSG] Order of Tags within (XHTML)

Could you expand on this please Mike? Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: Foskett, Mike Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: RE: [WSG] Order of Tags within (XHTML) [snip] 4. Page title with H1 text first and if necessary other info in reverse breadcrumb order for

Re: [WSG] Detecting Mobile user agent - what methods work best?

I think you've answered your own question, Mike. It's a mess. I am currently making (simple) fluid layouts and ensuring that floats 'drop' (exactly the opposite of what I've been doing in the last several years!). Also adding the meta tag : seems to help. After that, it's just 'hope for the

[WSG] or ?

Hi L&G, I am making a site (html5) which has a section at the top of each page. Some pages will also have a 'menu' which will be a short list of links to other pages in the site, and these will appear lower down in the content of the page. Instinct tells me that it is sensible to make this

[WSG] Lightbox++ and mobiles etc

I making an html5 site with a few galleries, each one being a grid of images 4 rows of three thumbnails. Clicking the thumbnails provides a 600px wide image via lightbox++. The images are all 600px wide, but the heights are different. When it comes to making the galleries visible on a mobile p

Re: [WSG] Lightbox++ and mobiles etc

- Original Message - From: David Laakso To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Lightbox++ and mobiles etc On 1/18/11 6:49 AM, designer wrote: I making an html5 site with a few galleries, each one being a grid of

Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

I hear what you are saying Steve, but isn't that always the case? The HTML5 scenario is becoming de rigueur now, just as a) tables vs divs and floats and b)XHTML were years ago. It's only by becoming familiar with 'changes' that one can decide for oneself if there are advantages (or not). It'

[WSG] html5 and iframes?

I am having a problem with iframes in html5. I am trying to put a facebook 'like' link on a website and the results are not always as expected. Particularly, IE 7 and 8 show a border AND the box size is different! I am using this: src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=www.marscov

Re: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes?

Thanks to all who responded, but I should perhaps point out that 'frameborder' is not supported in html5. Also, let me stress : the code validates fine, and works fine - except IE7 and 8. IE6 is OK. I just don't understand that and I wondered if anyone else has encountered this (surely, 6000+ fo

Re: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes?

- Original Message - From: "Russ Weakley" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes? Thanks for that Russ - at least I know I'm not cracking up! Although I did manage to read your page before you wrote it (It's still the 9th March in Eng

Re: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes?

Anthony On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:18 AM, designer wrote: Thanks to all who responded, but I should perhaps point out that 'frameborder' is not supported in html5. Also, let me stress : the code validates fine, and works fine - except IE7 and 8. IE6 is OK. I just don't under

Re: [WSG] html5 and iframes?

- Original Message - From: "Birendra" To: Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:58 AM Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] [WSG] html5 and iframes? Hey Bob Here is the your site code use this. It's work fine in my system. Site code Thanks v.much Birenda, but, if you validate the page, y

Re: [WSG] html5 and iframes?

and didn't get any error for the frameborder use. Check this code http://www.viteb.com"; frameborder="0" width="600px"> You didn't get error for the frameborder. Birendra Patel (Web Designer) wpajdp.pmm http://www.viteb.com -Original Message-

[WSG] embedding flash in html5 - alternative content

I wondered if any of you who use Flash would indicate how you approach the provision of alternative content when embedding the swf file in html5. The basic use of embed: is simplicity itself, but how do you provide alternative content for folk without flash? That is, what method do you recom

Re: [WSG] embedding flash in html5 - alternative content

ative content http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/ Henrik Madsen +61 08 9387 1250 hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au On 11/05/2011, at 5:04 PM, designer wrote: I wondered if any of you who use Flash would indicate how you approach the provision of altern

Re: [WSG] Google Les Paul tribute

It uses the html5 'canvas' tag as the basis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_element any many more . . . Bob - Original Message - From: Jason Grant To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Google Les Paul tribute HTML,

[WSG] HTML5 and invalid meta tags

I notice that some meta tags (like copyright) are invalid html5. The validator complains of a 'bad value'. I've searched for this and indeed found refs to others having the same problem, but I didn't find anything which details the change as such, or indeed why. Is it real, or do I just ignore

[WSG] Re: [WD]: Re: Display large images in photo gallery

Hi Bennie, Nice site. Good to see a change from three column layouts with a banner at the top! :-) However, looking at your markup, I see you've got a certain amount of classitis and divitis! You have, e.g., got lots of tags, all classed as menu [ ]. Could you not incorporate the features of '

Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

In case anyone doesn't know, see: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/chap6/ISOAMSA2.html for a good list of arrows/symbols. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

[WSG] zoom, or text zoom?

Hi All, I joined this group a couple of weeks ago and already have learnt lots of stuff. But, like all new folk to xhtml/css, I'm struggling to accept some of it. I've used CSS for a couple of years now, but only recently have moved to full CSS (no tables etc). The thing that worries me most is a

Re: [WSG] zoom, or text zoom?

#x27;s very easy to end up with something that requires the user to scroll both horizontally and vertically. Particularly on small screens, this can become a pain when all the user wanted to do was to punch up the text size a notch or two because the designer chose some (to them) illegibly small size

[WSG] Font size and arrogance

. For a lot of web designers (as opposed to web site producing technicians), a web site is just the same - it isn't arrogant, it's called passion. If you as a client don't like what a web designer does, you choose someone else, just like with the wallpaper. You know the old saying: &

[WSG] image captions?

Hi all, I am putting a few small images into a body of text, and am defining a very simple declaration for them, according to whether I want them flush left or right: e.g. .imgleft{ float : left; margin : 20px;} Doing this enables me to have the body of the text flowing around the image, with a

[WSG] using br - was [ image captions?]

- Original Message - From: "Thorsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] image captions? > why don't you put the image plus caption into a div and float that div? > > > > caption text > Thanks Thorsten, That's what

[WSG] image captions again

- Original Message - From: "Bert Doorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:10 AM xHTML: caption text CSS: div.imgleft { width: 200px; /* or whatever is appropriate */ float:left; text-align:center; } div.imgleft img { display:block; } Thanks Bert, I tried

[WSG] Re: image captions again

Ignore my last message - I realised I'm putting a block level div in an inline Duh! :-) But I don't know how to get around it . . . . > http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/imagesintext.html Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk **

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/

- Original Message - From: "Felix Miata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/ > Kathryn Ross wrote at Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:59:29 +1100: > > > document http://www

[WSG] forms in Opera?

Hi All, I have designed a form as part of an ongoing upgrade to a site I manage, and the form works fine in IE6, IE5.5, Firefox, Mozilla, but NOT in Opera 7.0, where the formatting just falls apart. It doesn't look like a box model problem, but I can't see what's wrong. You can see the very simpl

[WSG] definition tag?

Hi all, When would you (usefully) use text? (enquiring minds like to know . . . :-) Thanks, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.

[WSG] site check please - an illustrated novel

Hi All, I would be grateful for any and all feedback on a redesign I've done for a site which presents an illustrated novel. Some of it is a weeny bit hybrid, but (a small amount of flash aside) it all validates as xhtml and presentational matter is down to an absolute minimum. I have not done

[WSG] splash pages -[was site check please - an illustrated novel ]

Thanks Will, but all those validation errors are because of using Flash - there is no way to use Flash 'properly' and get the thing to validate (all the workarounds have problems, as I understand it). Outrageous, but there ye go! :-) Thanks for your thoughts. Tom (and Will) - I will bear all thi

[WSG] Dreamweaver : was [ Standards & Macromedia Contribute]

Hi Mario and all, - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Standards & Macromedia Contribute > Also, I must admit I'm growing rather weary of all the negative remarks > about Dreamweaver. From my humble perspective I us

Re: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry

Hi Russ and all, When I first looked, I thought you were serious! (It lasted less than 10 secs :-) A great example of what not to do! Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk > Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I > posted lacked a cert

Re: [WSG] Site review

Hi All, - Original Message - From: "Bennie Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: [WSG] Site review > I've offered to redo this site http://www.g-e-t.me.uk/index.html > and have come up with this as a replacement > http://bennieshepherd.com/g

Re: [WSG] CSS alignment issues

- Original Message - From: Tatham Oddie To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: [WSG] CSS alignment issues If you look at the homepage - http://www.e-oddie.com/ - I'm having problems laying the content out. I'm trying to centre the image on the page

Re: [WSG] CSS alignment issues

Hi Tatham, - Original Message - From: "Tatham Oddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; "'designer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS alignment issues > Bob, > I really didn't want to use a t

[WSG] centering without hassle - was CSS alignment issues

Hi Tatham (and all) - Original Message - From: "Tatham Oddie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; "'designer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] CSS alignment issues > Bob, > Thanks for your help here..

[WSG] learning CSS

Hi All, two comments fascinated me: [1] - Original Message - From: "Vicki Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [snip] My own method of preference in these circumstances is the use of conditional comments for IE. [2] - Original Message - From: "Kornel Lesinski" [EMAIL PROTECTED] [s

Re: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies!

- Original Message - From: "Lori Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies! > So, before heading this way for some help, I checked out the site on many > platforms. > > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/s

[WSG] A new year challenge - was [ Web Design in 2005]

Hi everyone: Forty Media wrote: > Flash widgets come into common use; full-site Flash still regarded as “sucks.” Can anyone who is really interested in web 'design' say that a site such as: http://www.fosterandpartners.com/internetsite/Flash.html 'sucks'? It certainly isn't standards material

[WSG] divs, layers, trans and strict

Hello all, and a good new year to you all! I am 'playing' with some layers which sit on top of each other to create a specific effect. I have converted the layers to CSS in the header (instead of inline styling) and it works fine as HTML4.01 trans. it can be seen at [1]. However, as soon as I m

Re: [WSG] divs, layers, trans and strict

- Original Message - From: "Justin French" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] divs, layers, trans and strict > Bob, > > I just opened both pages in Safari, and they seem to be/look the same > to me, so the first question is "which browse

Re: [WSG] divs, layers, trans and strict

Thanks guys (and gal :-) It was indeed the wrong case that was doing it. I just knew it was something daft that I couldn't spot, but you got it! Very grateful - it's so annoying when you can't see it . . . ! Bob Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

Re: [WSG] Help with centering - jumps horizontally depending on presence of vertical scrollbar

Hi Mani, Try using mozscroll in your CSS: #mozscroll { position: absolute; top: 0px; bottom: -1px; visibility: hidden } then, in your code:   (I usually put mine at the bottom of the page). HTH Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Messa

[WSG] I had to laugh - was [ Some links for light reading (3/1/05)]

Hello all, - Original Message - From: "russ - maxdesign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Beware of Opening Links in a New Window > http://www.sitepoint.com/article/beware-opening-links-new-window > When I looked at this link just now, I read the Neil Turner's piece about why I shouldn't open a ne

[WSG] being framed!

Hello all, I'm having a bit of trouble using frames without a border and getting the frameset to validate. OK, throw your prejudices about frames to one side (I believe there are times when the advantages outweigh the disadvantages) as I've heard them many times and, at least for now, I want to

Re: [WSG] being framed!

Kornel, Frameborder 0 still leaves the space between the frames, so is effectively useless. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: "Kornel Lesinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] bei

[WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

Hi all, I'm coming to this very much as a newbie, so be gentle with your response: I feel that, in many ways, we as web designers are getting the short straw by being asked to counteract the shortcomings of the browser/PC people, rather than the other way around. For example, Opera has a really g

[WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

Hello everyone, Could someone please point me to the information I'm after - I've searched and got a lot of very unreliable information and not found what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a list of valid attributes which can be used with tables in XHTML strict. Dreamweaver is disappointing in thi

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

Thanks Bert, Kornel, I read the DTD by downloading the file, loading into FF and viewing the source (IE wouldn't load it :-) Very interesting. As usual, one thing leads to another and I learnt lots of stuff in there. Bert, your reference to www.zvon.org was invaluable! What a source of informa

[WSG] yet more valid table tags for xhtml strict

Hi Guys, Well just for completion, I've found that in addition to align and valign for td, for tables you can use: and it is perfectly valid XHTML strict! And I'm using the standard DTD, not a customised one: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> So there you go! Border? frame?

[WSG] CSS and PHP

H All, I've been having a little bother with validation of my PHP generated pages. I'm new to PHP/mySQL and I'm finding that some peculiar things happen, such as and appear in the middle of the code. (???) Also, I find that submitting a URL such as: $myurl="testdate.php?houseID=$housename

Re: [WSG] CSS and PHP

Thank you Gentlemen, Very helpful as always! (I mean it!) -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelin

[WSG] standards or confusion?

Just over a year ago, I decided to improve my knowledge of CSS, which (although I'd been using it for a few years) seemed a good idea. I joined the CSS list, then this one, I read Jeffrey Zeldman (and a lot of web sites about standards) and everything was rosy in the garden. Of course, I had

Re: [WSG] standards or confusion?

Hi Lachlan, Lachlan Hunt wrote: [snipped] MIME Types As I promised, this is a (not so) brief discussion of MIME types and how they relate to this discussion of HTML vs. XHTML. I will certainly read and inwardly digest this! Many thanks, Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.g

[WSG] page check please - mime type!

Dear colleagues, Forgive my labouring the point, but after our discussions I have done what Gunlaug did, i.e., made a page as xhtml, with the headers as below: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";> The Area I saved as xhtml and IE went daft. I

Re: [WSG] page check please - mime type!

Duh? Stephen? Stephen Stagg wrote: Apart from using copyrighted images without attributing them :). Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See ht

[WSG] real xhtml - last question!

. . . before I go back to html 2.0! But seriously, in my continuing quest to understand/get a feeling for mime types etc, I've made two files now :  thearea.html and thearea.xhtml.   What I did was to make the xhtml first, validate it etc, then save as html as well.  So the two files are ident

Re: [WSG] real xhtml - last question!

Thanks Jan, Marvelous information! I now see why my 'body' background colour doesn't work - it has to be on html as well. Of course, this means that the background isn't fixed in IE any more, but I suppose we should expect that! :-) Jan Brasna wrote: is there a 'list' of things which happ

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

OK, we've had this before, but here we go again. Show me an example of centering a div vertically and horizontally on the screen, where you don't need to know ANY sizes beforehand, don't need negative margins, AND the result works in the viewport even when the viewport is smaller than the conte

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