Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5

ult is probably HTML5 doctor or the WHAT WG help list. (The help list, not the main discussion list.) -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.blogspot.com/ *** List Guidelines

Re: [WSG] or CSS3 Border Background

is to use a header which helps to help define that relationship. No, it is not. But it is better avoided, as said by many in this thread. -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.blogspo

Re: [WSG] My best practice HTML sheet

27;ve read every reply. Mike found out how to cope with my oversight. Links have been fixed. -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.blogspot.com/ *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] My best practice HTML sheet

o not like implicit closing of elements, but removing all would save me more than 5kB of page size... Decisions, decisions. -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.blogspo

Re: [WSG] My best practice HTML sheet

extension, I forgot to change the path in the links. Fixed. -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.blogspot.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] My best practice HTML sheet

ny content issues. Please report any problems in FFox 3.5. Known issue: The checkmarks (✓) do not work in MSIE or Webkit based browsers. It does not make the table less understandable though. -- Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) http://keryx.se/ http://twitter.com/itpastorn/ http://itpastorn.bl

[WSG] Hotlinking prevention does not work

Hi I looked at my logs today and I saw a lot of hotlinking gping on. So just why does this code not work? RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(.+\.)?keryx\.se/ [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$ RewriteRule .*\.(jpe?g|gif|bmp|png)$ /bilder/image-theft.png [L] Lars Gunther

[WSG] WaSP Interact

I hope nobody has missed this: http://interact.webstandards.org/ "It is with great pleasure that we unveil the WaSP InterAct Curriculum, an initiative that aims to unite industry, educators, and practitioners with one common goal: to improve the quality of education that the next generation o

Re: [WSG] seeking JavaScript Bible comments

Den 2009-02-09 03:02, Joseph Taylor skrev: I wouldn't worry about document.write examples too much. You just need to keep in mind that the book is designed to teach the language from scratch, and quite possibly the reader hasn't scripted before. Starting from point zero, document.write is a good

Re: [WSG] URL naming best practice guide? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Chris Vickery skrev: That's an awesome help. Thanks everyone! http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/11/googles-seo-starter-guide.html http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990321.html http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI Morec thoughts: http://shiflett.org/blog/2007/jan/url-vanity http://s

Re: [WSG] seeking JavaScript Bible comments

Paul Novitski skrev: I would love to get your critical comments on Danny Goodman's JavaScript Bible http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470069163.html I'm updating the book to its 7th edition and am making some significant changes, including upgrading it to include separation of

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please - let blocks

Brett Patterson skrev: I like that explanation. I get it now. Thanks. One more quick question though, what is a let-block, in general? Thanks. That really does make it a lot easier to understand. Brett Normally JavaScript does not have block scope. var foo = 1; { foo = 2; } alert(foo);

Re: [WSG] Javascript classical inheritence [was: JavaScript clarification please]

Mathew Robertson skrev: All this talk over JavaScript not supporting classes, is incorrect. I put together a little demo of classical "class-based" inheritence. The only real limitation is that you can't do "protected members" and "friends" and the syntax might be considered to be a little clu

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please - object methods are properties

Keryx Web skrev: JavaScript has no pure hash-tables, aka associative arrays. Object properties can be used to emulate associative arrays, though. A PHP programmer will feel very limited, though. A JavaScript object *is* not an array ... It can have methods as well as properties. Nitpicking

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please - versions

Brett Patterson skrev: I am sorry, but I must ask. Are you saying that the term JavaScript is owned by Sun? Or just the Java part? And, yes, JavaScript is implemented in Internet Explorer. I see that your question has already been answered. I will give some additional points. Mocha was Br

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

Anthony Ziebell skrev: Still confuses me though - if someone is object-orientated but is in essence prototype-based (with regards to object, inheritance, etc), why is it incorrect to say JavaScript is prototype-based? Your confusion comes from comparing apples to steam trains. Prototypes ar

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

Brett Patterson skrev: > I am in the middle of a conversation with this guy who says that JavaScript is an object-oriented language. Is he correct? Could you please site some references? I have read the whole thread up until now, but will answer your starting message, since I am not addressin

Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

Simon skrev: Hi all, I really want to get stuck in and learn Javascript properly, Learn the basics first - then libraries: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200701/learn_javascript_before_tasting_the_library_koolaid/ Mozilla Developer Central is a nice resource. All Sitepoint books are g

Re: [WSG] Chrome JavaScript features - not speed

Breton Slivka skrev: >> - Array and string generics > > You can apply array functions to strings, if that's what you mean. > And vice versa >> - Expression closures > > I don't know how you could have javascript without those. Pretty much > every website would break. Event handlers would be impo

[WSG] Chrome JavaScript features - not speed

Concerning Chrome, I have some unanswered questions about V8. Exactly what JavaScript features does it support? (This is NOT a question about it's speed.) The release statememt simply says that it follows the EcmaScript 3.0 standard, but we all know that it is quirky in places and that curren

Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???

Adam Martin skrev: Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta. A beta is supposed to be feature complete. otherwoise it's an alpha. Lars Gunther **

[WSG] Mobile graded browser support

All right. I will stop complaining about "designing for the iPhone" and try to attack this from a positive angle. How can we go about making our mobile websites according to sound principles. Bearing in mind that mobile browsers often lack the features we wish they had. Borrowing the terminolo

Re: [WSG] iphone should not be part of your url

Ted Drake skrev: Slightly off topic... There is a really good Wordpress template/plugin that detects the very specific user-agent for iphone and touch and changes your theme to an iphone specific layout. There is a plethora of such solutions covering most major PHP-frameworks, RoR, etc. That

Re: [WSG] iphone should not be part of your url

Ben Dodson skrev: I don't personally have a problem with having iphone in a URL as it is generally used for applications that are very specific to the iphone. It is 1998 and I am developing an application that is very specific to MSIE... A strategy proved bad! IMO this is *exactly* the reaso

Re: [WSG] iphone should not be part of your url

Svip skrev: I see where you're coming from, but let's not forget that the iPhone's browser is (as of right now) the largest mobile browser, in the fashion, that it is basically the same browser you get on your computer. The good thing about the iPhone is that suddenly USA is getting to know th

Re: [WSG] iphone should not be part of your url

Matthew Pennell skrev: To that end, you either sniff for devices and/or serve mobile content on a different URL. Yes, but if "iphone" is part of your URL, what does that say to people using Nokia, Sony-E, LG or any other smartphone? And what about Opera Mini, Opera Mobile, MSIE Mobile (OK f

[WSG] iphone should not be part of your url

I am feeling moody today, but... Are we selling our soul for a shiny newish toy from Apple? A specific app or device should not be part of an URL. Period. URL's like iphone.domain.com are an abomination! Even if the content is standards based. Lars Gunther

CSS selectors in FFox 3.1 Was: [WSG] Mixing CSS3 and CSS2

Keryx Web skrev: Correction: Two errors in FFox 3.1a1pre: http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2008/06/06/CSS-3-Selectors-test-4 Now (probably) fixed! https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420245 (See comment 17 and onwards) Lars Gunther

Re: [WSG] Mixing CSS3 and CSS2

Keryx Web skrev: (See also D Glazmans test: Six errors in Safari 3.1, one in FFox 3.1 version of Minefield, **zero** in Opera 9.5 beta, build 10048. I have not tested nightly Webkit.) Correction: Two errors in FFox 3.1a1pre: http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2008/06/06

[WSG] Thoughts on CSSDoc

Hi As a PHP developer I expect myself and fellow programmers to use PHPDoc for every single file/class/function/etc they will ever write. It has become non-negotiable. Most programming languages have their own implementation of this now, all in honor of JavaDoc, who invented the system. So

Re: [WSG] Mixing CSS3 and CSS2

Rahul Gonsalves skrev: #foo { border: 1px solid fuscia; -moz-border-radius: 0.5em; -webkit-border-radius: 0.5em; border-radius: 0.5em; } This will ensure that browsers like IE6/IE7 only see the first line (border...) and draw a straight box around #foo. Slightly smarter browsers like

Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

Ian Chamberlain skrev: Fingers crossed this is not too far off topic; being a newby to PHP; any clues where I can find how-to's, snippets, libraries or even application suites built from PHP that are built to a good minimum standard please. I am guessing that PHP is much like JavaScript in tha

Re: [WSG] Torrents of em and strong abuse (Was: Re: WSG Digest)

Justin Sinclair skrev: Are there really torrents of and abuse out in the real world? I've been guilty of that sin in the past myself. I think the torrent was stemmed while still a creek - if that saying works in English. One might argue that it is possible to get such an impression in th

Re: [WSG] u, i, strong, em and I18N/L10N. (Was: Why is deprecated?)

Andrew Cunningham skrev: although i'd go further and say that browsers implementing italic as default presentation for and bold as default presentation for are also wrong. Its attempting to make the typographic conventions of the Latin and Cyrillic scripts universal when they aren't. Its p

Re: [WSG] Why is deprecated?

Kepler Gelotte skrev: Hi, I am just curious if anyone can explain why the tag has been deprecated while and are still allowed. Summary (most things have been said already): Underlines on paper have no usability impact, since you cant click on it! Underlines on web pages have a usability i

Re: [WSG] and in lists

Thomas Thomassen skrev: Thanks. Got a link to where I can follow that incase there's response? http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-March/014252.html There have been two responses so far. One wishing to expand the suggestion and one that is simply positive. No word from I

Re: [WSG] and in lists

Thomas Thomassen skrev: I posted a comment about it in the W3C public HTML discussion group, hoping it'd be picked up and amend HTML5's specification to allow this. However, there's yet been any response. Is there any other place I could air this issue in hope of it getting heards by the autho

Re: [WSG] Apply ALT tag to background image?

Kristine Cummins skrev: I’ve got a background graphic designated in my style sheet Backgrounds are decorative and do not need alt *attributes*. Therefore CSS does not have a way of providing alternate text. If it is part of the content and should be "seen" by search engine bots and screen r

Re: [WSG] Web Standards in India

Amrinder Sandhu skrev: Hello Friends I am a web standard designer from India where there is very less awareness about terms like Web Standards, Usability, Accessibility and User experience Perhaps you could contact Navjot Pawera, Web Standards Project International Liaison in India? http

Re: [WSG] and in lists

Thomas Thomassen skrev: I posted a comment about it in the W3C public HTML discussion group, hoping it'd be picked up and amend HTML5's specification to allow this. However, there's yet been any response. Is there any other place I could air this issue in hope of it getting heards by the author

Re: [WSG] Fieldsets outside of forms. Was: Safari 3.1 and webkit-border-radius

tee skrev: Perhaps it will help the web standards if W3C to be more authoritative and dictatorial? "MUST NOT", "MUST", "ABSOLUTELY NOT", "ILLEGAL TO USE", "NOT ALLOWED" to replace these ambiguous "MAY NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT". If one reads the specs these words are not ambiguous. W3C use

Re: [WSG] Fieldsets outside of forms. Was: Safari 3.1 and webkit-border-radius

David Dorward skrev: From the spec: The FIELDSET element allows authors to group thematically related controls and labels. --- As I said, I am no minimalist. And yes, I have read the spec. It does not forbid me to use fieldsets outside of forms. Specs use the language of "MAY NOT", "SHOULD

Re: [WSG] Safari 3.1 and webkit-border-radius

tee skrev: I thought fieldset (with legend) are used only for form elements, I am curious why you would used it in your right column's content. A. It is valid. You may use it according to the DTD. B. It is being used for grouping of content. C. I am not a minimalist in interpreting specs.

Re: [WSG] Safari 3.1 and webkit-border-radius

Rahul Gonsalves skrev: On a test file [1], Safari 3.1 styles with rounded borders very happily. Perhaps there's something else at play here? I think I've reduced the problem. There are no rounded corners when the fieldset has got a legend element. In my Safari this testcase shows the proble

[WSG] Safari 3.1 and webkit-border-radius

Now that safari 3.1 is out I was reminded of something I had intended to do for a long time. I took this: fieldset.inforuta { padding: 20px; font-size: 90%; -moz-border-radius: 15px; } And turned it into this: fieldset.inforuta { padding: 20px; font-size: 90%; -moz-bo

Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

Keryx Web skrev: Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand "grey", spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) I have researched this myself now and will set all confusion to rest! "Grey" is a valid CSS color name defined in CSS 3, not CSS 2.1.

[WSG] IE 8 and grey

Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand "grey", spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webs

Re: [WSG] Firefox developer toolbar

krugonN skrev: If I remember right in the FAQ he says that he only makes the toolbar once the final version is released. So until FF3 final is released his toolbar won't be available :( More detailed: http://chrispederick.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=6796#p6796 Summary: He is working on FFox

Re: [WSG] IE8 news

aleagi skrev: Hello Mike, I agree with you. There's a lot of users still working in obsolete machines or/by option, browsing with IE6. That would be all of my colleagues - and me if I want to access the intranet for our town. It won't work in MSIE 7 (and hence not in MSIE 8 with any switch.)

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents

Alexey Novikov skrev: I use this pattern: Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document, PDF, 1234kb I would suggest putting the abbreviation PDF and the size inside the a-element if anyone tabs from link to link with JAWS or anything similar. or with icon: Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document, PDF, 1234kb I

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

Rimantas Liubertas skrev: Can you elaborate what appendix C are you talking about? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/xhtml-media-types.html#summary (latest version, supposedly) does not confirm this. The 2nd edition opens things up a bit: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/xhtml11-diff.html#

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

Thomas Thomassen skrev: There's no difference between XHTML 1.1 and XHTML 1.0 Strict. XHTML 1.1 only advantage is that it's modulized Not entirely true. XHTML 1.1 includes ruby. and can only be sent as XML so it can be extended. If you're not extending it then you're better off with XHTML 1

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: One question that I have yet to see anyone ask is: How good will IE8 actually be? If it is perfect, then there is no need to worry about future versions... No browser is, and never will be perfect. (Look at Acid 3. http://acid3.acidtests.org/ And when most browsers get

Re: [WSG] This IE8 controversy

Thomas Thomassen skrev: Yes, that is an issue. But saving webpages to disc has always been unreliable. Espesially now with the extensive use of AJAX and other embedded and streamed content. Not to mention IE:s habit of botching up the markup badly. Valid and well-formed XHTML will often be s

Re: [WSG] Revolutionary news

russ - maxdesign skrev: It is a very interesting chart (I haven't seen anyone map out the IE8 situation this well), but it also renders poorly in Safari (can't read a lot of the text)... Do you have a simpler version of the chart (like, horror of horrors, an image) you could post and then link h

Re: [WSG] Revolutionary news

Patrick H. Lauke skrev: doubt it. XHTML 1.0 can be served as text/html, and that's probably what he's referring to. May I also add that I do not trust this enough to add it to my flowchart that I've done to illustrate MS proposal... (Which hits a nasty bug in FFox!) http://www.molly.com/20

Re: [WSG] Revolutionary news

Patrick H. Lauke skrev: Keryx Web wrote: He is telling us that we (soon?) can use application/xhtml+xml and that MSIE will support it. Am I hearing this right? doubt it. XHTML 1.0 can be served as text/html, and that's probably what he's referring to. Yes, I doubt it too,

[WSG] Revolutionary news

Could this be true? MSIE 8 will support true XHTML... Chris Wilson wrote this on Jeremy Keiths blog: "Jeremy - any content-type or DTD that is not broadly deployed when we ship can be opted in to best standards support. So HTML5 can be opted in; the XHTML mime type could be, as could any other

Re: [WSG] how to set table column widths with CSS

Philippe Wittenbergh skrev: I'm styling the element, not a descendant or child of col (there are none, anyway). (col:first-child applies to the first column, child of colgroup) width applies perfectly to the element. I was surprised to see

Re: [WSG] Acronym element

Ross Bruniges skrev: the abbr and acronym elements have extra value in the fact that a screen reader will say out each letter opposed to trying to pronounce the word. Here is how I understand the difference between an acronym and other abbreviations: Acronyms should *not* be spelled as, but

[WSG] Ordinal numbers with roman numerals

Hi again! I do have a lot of questions - at least a few at the moment. How do you handle ordinal numbers in order to satisfy both the normal reader as well as screen readers. a. Today, when a screen reader *might* read both an elements textcontent and it's title-attribute, it's title attribu

Re: [WSG] When can I start using E4X

Keryx Web skrev: He all! Should have been Hi all! Answering (partially) my own question. Webkit: "The E4X standard adds some XML-related features to the JavaScript language. We should consider adding these to the JavaScriptCore engine." I found the tracking b

[WSG] When can I start using E4X

He all! I have been searching the net for rumors and facts about E4X implementations. This is what I've found: Mozilla (Spidermonkey and Rhino) support E4X today - and has been doing it for a while! Adobe does too. So does (already/soon?) MbedThis. At least they are 100% committed. Webkit

Re: [WSG] Numbers in HTML 5 Was: Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

David Dorward skrev: On 2 Dec 2007, at 13:08, Keryx Web wrote: Consider the following, more common problem: I want to write a big number, say 2345678912.123 How big was it? Hard to see, isn't it? Let's add thousand separators the American way: 2,345,678,912.123 Yea, now I see

Re: [WSG] Numbers in HTML 5 Was: Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

Kepler Gelotte skrev: That's interesting. I had thought of the lang attribute as well but didn't think that Roman Numerals were attached to any language in particular (as Lars points out). I think maybe the HTML specification needs something like a num attribute that allows you to specify the

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

Geoff Pack skrev: Since they're Roman numerals, shouldn't there be a lang="la" in there somewhere? Roman numerals may be used in more languages than latin. They are simply put just another way to write a number. Lars Gunther Who BTW has read Latin...

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

To everybody who has answered me in this thread: 1. I do realize that it is impossible to use perfect markup today, mainly because of the ghastly Outlook 2007. (A product I am boycotting BTW - but tell the to the mobile phone manufacturers. "It syncs with Outlook" is the ubiquitous sales pitch

[WSG] Leopard mail and standards

When Outlook 2007 came out it incurred upon itself the righteous wrath of all standardistas thanks to the stupid decision to use Word as its HTML/CSS rendering engine. In a few days Mac OS X Leopard will be out with much touted templates for the mail app. Here is my question: Are these made wi

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

Jens Brueckmann skrev: there do exist counters in CSS, see http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/generate.html#counters but, as you might have guessed, they are not supported by Internet Explorer. Yes. I was a bit too short on that one... As you already observed, list counters are rather content tha

[WSG] Catch 22 list problem

Hi all! Short version: A. is not allowed in strict HTML 4/XHTML 1.0, Spec says "use CSS". B. I want to start at 3. C: CSS has no means to specify a start value! Pick your poison: 1. Invalid code 2. Use a transitional DOCTYPE 3. Set value with DOM-script Long version: How do we handle c

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet - CSS issues

Anders Nawroth skrev: You are looking for thead/tbody HTML elements: No, I want to stop the leftmost *column* from scrolling as well! Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscri

[WSG] CSS, the DOM and whitespace (rant)

Hi again! CSS considers only element nodes to be children or siblings. The DOM does not. This is a pedagogic discrepancy understandable to people used in traversing the DOM who are frustrated that MSIE is "natural" with nextSibling and that the rest are according to spec.[1] Something that

[WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet - CSS issues

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > Mind if you add some different background colour on alternate rows > or some such ? > The table is much wider than my monitor (or my browser window, > which is probably more important...), and it is quite difficult > to keep track of things. Alternate row colors will

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet updated for MSIE

I have now made it possible for MSIE to see my sheet as well. I have provided an plain HTML version, but do not want any linking to it. This is the set of rules in my .htaccess that I think should do the trick: --- RewriteEngine On # The simple html version shall not be directly acc

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: I'm afraid this doesn't give me much confidence when your label for HTML5 is (X)HTML 5 One of the major points about HTML5 is that it is _not_ XML based. Already answered by liorean. May I add that prominent members of the WHAT-WG mailing list have read and OK'd my do

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

David Dorward skrev: On 10 Aug 2007, at 08:53, Dean Edridge wrote: But it's not supposed to work in ie5, 6 or 7. It's a XHTML document. But why? I can't see anything that could not be expressed in HTML in that document. XSLT and perhaps SVG is coming... Lars Gunther **

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

Frank Palinkas skrev: May I make one suggestion please? The character reference (✓) you're using for the "checkmark" symbol does not render in IE6 or below. However, it does render perfectly in the latest versions of Opera, Firefox, Netscape and Safari for Windows. It does *not* render perfec

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

Andrew Freedman skrev: Any chance that you could perhaps upload the page or post the correct link? Ooops! http://keryx.se/resources/html-elements.xhtml Sorry all! *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelin

[WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live

Hello everyone on the mailing lists that I have used to produce my (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet! It is no longer called a "cheat" sheet, and it has gone live today. Check it out at http://keryx.se/resources/html_elements.xhtml and feel free to use it or as you please - or improve it! There ar

[WSG] Usefulness of JSDoc

Hi all! I have been wondering about the (absent) standard for documenting JavaScript: JSDoc. In PHP one can expect any seasoned developer to use PHPDocumentor (or something similar, like Doxygen). In JAVA one would expect Javadoc to be used by most. However, except for Foundations of Ajax

[WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity

Hello all! Who, in your opinion, are the 5 best JavaScript gurus? This is a question that might seem silly, but there is actually a great deal of thought behind it. I am working on a paper at university level, that intends to describe the benefits of unobtrusive DOM-scripting, compared to old

Re: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down

Ryan Moore wrote: I see that it relies on a source of JS to complete the effect, and i'm wondering if it's possible to complete this purely with XHTML & CSS. Anyone have a good example of this? Just do not do it. It cannot be done. a. JS is the best tool for *behavior*. CSS for design. b.

Re: [WSG] WCAG Samurai Errata

Tee G.Peng wrote: Hi, I finally got a chance to read the WCAG Samurai Errata. Maybe something to do with my understanding in English, I see there is autority tone in there. Guideline 11, bullet point 3, point 4: "I really mean this..." Not so convincing, perhaps? Lars Gunther *

[WSG] Wikipedia article help wanted

Hello everyone. A few months ago I started this article on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_%28ECMAScript%29 However, my wife has got ill and received a heart transplant, so my time and energy for Wikipedia articles are somewhat lacking. If some of you could

[WSG] Alpha transparency problem

Hi all! Is it possible to get MSIE 6 to have a repeated alpha-transparent png background? Check this page http://ne.keryx.se/~gorgnut/new_site/ It is made by a student of mine and the faded border is supposed to stretch and the hacks for MSIE I know can't be used if the image gets repeated. La

Re: [WSG] Standards War - HTML 5 vs XHTML 2.0

Adrian Lynch wrote: Knowing that XHTML5 is developed in the same spec means that we can push forward with our XSLT based workflows, and simply adjust to suit once XHTML5 is supported at the browser level. -- I had the same concern. As it turns out one can - at least in many cases - use the X

[WSG] XHTML vz HTML speed

Hello again! Firefox 3.0 will support incremental rendering of true XHTML, since bug 18333 has been fixed: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18333 and http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.0a2/releasenotes/ One argument in support of XHTML has been "speed" (seldom heard today,

[WSG] (X)HTML best practice cheat sheet

This message has already been posted to the what-wg mailing list and to the wasp-edutf mailing list. Please forgive duplication and feel free to ignore... Hello yet again! For the benefit of myself and my students I have started to put together a cheat sheet of (X)HTML elements. Although only