success! housecleaningSam wrote:-- Are negatives supported in the z-index?
yes, more about z-index at pages like: http://www.echoecho.com/csslayers.htmRic wrote:
-- Personally I don't like the suckerfish menus much.--I found these much more to my
the word to developers and designers. thats where the
action is :)
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if not, maybe there's a need for something...?
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Joshua wrote http://webpatterns.org/
*checks it out*
ok, so the term patterns is potentially a too far advanced term for
what i'm thinking of. all that microformat and machine readable data
stuff is certainly interesting (Allsopp - i can hear you screaming
about it from here ;-) but...
I
Joshua also wrote:
That web patterns thing people were bouncing around in here a month or
so back? I've lost the address... if someone else doesn't post it,
it's in the archives somewhere...
oops. yeah ok:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg24333.html
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a course in Ruby,
I'll happily change my arguments :)
So that makes you qualified to speak then?
Hmm
Peter
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Subject: [WSG] ASP, PHP
Could you do something like
ul
liItem 1 div class=editfunctions[Add] [Edit] [Delete]/div/li
ul
liSubitem 1.1 div class=editfunctions[Add] [Edit]
[Delete]/div/li
...
/ul
...
/ul
and use css positioning to move the div to the left of the list?
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a text file in the browser window, however we want the download requestor to appear when accessing a file of this type as the file is useless when viewed as straight text as it is a data file designed to be used with SPSS.
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Peter Levan
Web Manager
Thanks to everyone for their help. This gives me plenty to go on.
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This thread is really off topic so let's leave it here, but to correct
something (sorry Lachlan)...
This works on IIS as well, as long as it's a .shtml or .shtm file to tell IIS
to parse it for any required processing (like an include) before serving it
(unless your host doesn't allow them).
the result for the Web).
I find it funny that almost everyone forgot Macromedia Fireworks - as a
full-time programmer and not a very good graphic artistthis program
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The much maligned br element is essential in our work. Sometimes we're not
just doing poetry and addresses.
Take for example the archive page of this very message (the one I'm replying
to).
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There appears to be some problems in FF1.5 in WinXP in your header
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Looks fine in IE...(ugh! ;-)
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modules to see if any can be
adapted.
Good luck!
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Subject: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?
Hello list
Hi Rosemary
This article by Eric Meyer may help keep the images from escaping from
their containing blocks:
http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/
Cheers
Peter
Rosemary Probert wrote:
I want to be able to put a series of images down the page - some left
and some right
itle="Older People"Older People/a/li
lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Minority Groups"Minority Groups/a/li
lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Education Training"Education amp; Training/a/li
lia href="subcategory.htm" title="Homelessness
/login_edit.cfm and select No mail from
the WSG list and No mail from the CMS list.
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I think it's safe to assume default installation settings for most
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I believe you can make use of the position: fixed css
property to get some frame-like behaviour, eg applying it to a navigation div.
However I don't know what the browser support is like.
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Levan
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the first char
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Martin Heiden wrote:
Peter,
on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 at 12:31 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
Maybe I'm a cycle head, but it seems silly to use computation cycles
(although very little) to compute a year that changes only once per
year. Use a server side include or hard
and think in the terms of what is good for you. Do I have to pull my
hair out maintaining and updating crappy code that I didn't get to write
or have any input on?
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Maybe we need a content vs page weight ratio measurement with star
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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Peter Williams wrote:
1 star for content to markup ratio
1 star for validation of markup and css
Let the market regulate itself. Let standards-compliant markup sites
take over because of their benefits actually manifesting themselves
(easier to maintain
the pretty but broken
sites with no stars or 1 star though.
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plan. My star rating
system isn't intended to be a link away from the site.
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that used for rating energy efficiency
of applicances achieve that easier than the cryptic and unloved
W3C buttons.
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audience. I think the scheme (at least the
implementation and enforcement) would be very
impractical in the current online environment.
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a struggling
non-profit that means someone to you and especially one that doesn't
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Mani,
This group is not an outlet for you to make money.
Besides, one would assume that a group of web designers would have their
email addresses sorted out already.
However, if you require a designer to overhaul that nasty website,
you've come to the right place.
Up late and tired,
of my findings. Discussions would often
bring further info to light and some of us would go away
with more knowledge than we started with. I'm still a member
of css-d, but I rarely have time to investigate or help
very much these days. http://www.css-discuss.org/
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Even though it's depreciated and many pages at many websites aren't
valid in the first place -- couldn't you still use the start attribute
on a Strict page anyways? Ducks and runs...*poof*
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Absolutely, way off and it started over 2 weeks ago. Stop now!
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IMHO yours and therefor mine
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Hi,
The client is having trouble:
"Just to update you, we're having
in browsers. That
seems to be a given.
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diplayed.
If you have issues with the DataGrid, why not grab back control of the
output in a Repeater control. There are even scripts that will allow
paging with the repeater. Check out 4guysfromrolla or msdn. I wouldn't
like to script sorting on columns however.
HTH
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just say i have markup like this:
--
div id =utility
ul
lia href="" Item/a/li
lia href="" Item/a/li
lia href="" Item/a/li
/ul
/div
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and for one reason or another I *dont* have access to the html markup.
Then an intricate design
It was a good idea at the time - but probably not a hot idea any more.
Read The Web Standards Project's line on it now:
http://www.webstandards.org/act/campaign/buc/
---
I like this idea and wanted to implement somthing similar, but was wondering
what was going on
similar issues on another list,
set the GMail encoding to Default (not UTF8).
Then set it to Plain Text formatting (they
recently added a Rich Text option).
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, not at the left edge of the table. It seems that the
caption is not being contained by the table in FF, but I can't explain
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From: Peter Williams
It seems that the caption is not being contained by the
table in FF, but I can't explain why.
HTML 4 recommendation has this to say about the caption element:
Visual user agents should avoid clipping any part of the table
including the caption, unless a means is provided
Hi Rachel,
before you dive into the markup ( i'm not sure if this is much help
to you) but if you can simplify the proposed visual design you may be
able to save yourself some pain in the css layout (cause agreed, it
would be fairly complex)
it took me a while to understand the form and what
adam wrote:
So, the idea of context is quite important here, which is where, i
believe, a table would come in handy.
ditto. i'd feel comfortable using a table if i were you Rachel :)
if you were going to use css you'd probably need to repeat the
Discipline split % within each fieldset - and
Can we stop this discussion. The more we post the links to the list
discussing it the more they end up in mail-archive.com.
No it isn't an O'Reilly website. We all get it :)
It's like a send this to everyone you know virus warning email, becomes
the problem itself.
P
On 10/15/05, Stefan wrote:
How can I make the Table fill the full width of the column in FireFox and
IE 6?
same thing happened to me with that type of layout.
I added the following rules to the tables and it sorted it for me:
table {width:100%;float:left}
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usually a better story
with IE5.5.
[1] give an example of ok to your client early on and explain why
spending 99% of your time on 1% (percentages always make your argument
sound good ;-) of their audience is not spending their money in the
right place.
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But they may make your system vulnerable as they are not patched. There's a
very good reason Microsoft doesn't publish these for developers or anyone
else.
Not at all recommended on any machine you care about.
P
Standalone versions of IE 4 and IE 5 are available at
Peter Firminger wrote:
Not at all recommended on any machine you care about.
Just for my own peace of mind tho - they're only a security issue when
you have launched the program right? so if i'm launching them (old
standalone IE5 5.5) once a month to *only* test pages that I've
created - I'm
in the future.
Sorry for the smug told you so, but many people including myself have made
this very clear over the whole life of WSG. You only have yourself to blame.
Peter
previously comment=I'm really sick of html emails on this list
It sounds more like they are taking a stand against the designers
too? I.e:
The Secretary,
Your Club,
PO Box 999,
Anytown VIC 3000.
Australia Post address format rules/recommendations don't allow
punctuation. Apparently it messes with the automated sorting.
It'd be good to have a method that was independant of local
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: 10px;
display:block;
float:left;
}
#navlist a:link, #navlist a:visited
{
border-bottom: 2px solid transparent;
}
#navlist a:hover, #navlist a:active
{
border-bottom: 2px solid #color of your choice;
}
HTH
Peter
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What do others think?
1 vote here for always making the logo a regular img and part of the
html markup. reasoning for me is a pretty simple one. its content! :)
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This thread is a clear case of why non-standards developers laugh at us (Web
Standards Zealots) and justifiably say we're irrelevant.
We're arguing over a line break! Forget the context (but a postal or street
address is a fine example of the need for a line break in the way most (en)
people
=abou
tCSIROResume
Seems like they are just transferring the Aussie branch
from one host company/university/institution to another.
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From: James Bennett
In my experience, they still read the Description tag, but don't
necessarily take it into account for ranking purposes; if the
Description is present it will be included in the excerpt shown in the
search result.
That matches my experience too.
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URL for press release:
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From: Samuel Richardson
So if the Linux fallback for Verdana is Bitstream Vera Sans,
what's the Linux fallback for Arial?
Another answer could be Helvetica, I think that Arial is
actually a copy of Helvetica (a much older typeface).
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Hi there,
This may help with your font compatibility problem.
http://www.visibone.com/font/FontResults.html
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other typefaces from which it was derived. I believe the
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On 10/5/05, Zach Inglis wrote
For an article i'm writing I need a list who have turned their
website into Web Standard compliant websites.
there are many lists scattered around already compiled - like this one:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/redesignwatch/
hth, cheers, pete
they use are available at http://www.visibone.com/font/
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there might be a hack out there that will
pass 0.8em to ie, but not to firefox?
Kara,
Isn't this just a matter of doing something like:
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all the
branches get extended and the whole tree grows providing mutual
benefits for us all.
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of my initial user experience.
The forums look pretty, the orange/blue/purple combi is attractive.
Text size on the top nav is too big and Board Rules is always
wrapped for me, it could easily be half or two-thirds the size
it is now and still be effective in my opinion.
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Big Thanks also to Thomas Marban from Austria who went to the trouble to set
up a WE05 Wiki.
http://futurefarm.net/we05/
Sorry, it only happened in the last 24 hours or so and we've been kinda busy
here setting everything up.
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Andrew wrote:
Or how about everyone interested just bites
the bullet and posts their photo contact details like I just did?
i'll be there.
here's me: http://c41.com.au/
the secret password is youve been on this list *how* long and your
site still uses tables?
oh. the. horror.
:)
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Considering none of the top designers use Dreamweaver
From: Al Sparber
Who are the top designers?
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Hi Janelle
If you set the font-family on the .box to verdana it then renders the
same as your example below. Looks like the text input field is picking
up the default sans-serif(?)
Cheers
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Janelle Clemens wrote:
My designer is on me to reduce the size of the font in the search box
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for some
years
old, but is still a useful reference for standards based web
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padding: 0;
margin: 0 3% 2em 0;
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clear: both;
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From: Damian Sweeney
Try http://69.93.55.164/topics/userscience/accessibility/
So, there really is a new A List Apart.
Hopefully DNS propogation will proceed apace and we can all
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which incoroprates a lot of the sort of info your are wanting I think.
http://www.nypl.org/styleguide/
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font: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
color:#FFCC00;
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://joeclark.org/access/webaccess/
alistapart has many articles on accesibility
http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/
Google for terms like section 508 check and you'll
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My link works http://www.alistapart.com/topics/accessibility/
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I meant on a core style-sheet, and what does bump mean?
Lea de Groot wrote:
(In other words 'bump' ;))
Bumping the topic back to the top, used more in web forums that email lists.
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Stephen
Nice design, and great work. Is the curve at the bottom of the page parallel
with the curve on the banner? It looks slightly out to me but it could just be
my eyesight! Lol
Always pleasing to see good UK design.
Well done!
Peter
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