Re: [WSG] UTF-8 ,charset and Standard

2004-11-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
berry wrote: I understand that it is not the uft-8 wich give the ability to render the accent on the screen but the language content. meta http-equiv=Content-Language content=fr which tell the agent to render the accent using the UFT-8 also don't forget that meta alone is not enough. You need to

CLOSED RE: [WSG] W3C REFERER FIX?

2004-11-30 Thread Sam Hutchinson
yeah thanks but I think its the firewall, I know that happens if you try a local page. this is a live page we are talking about. looks like the php snippets suggested earlier are the way forward. thanks for averybody's support on this string. i'm now closing it. ta -Original Message-

Re: [WSG] UTF-8 ,charset and Standard

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
UTF-8, a flavour of unicode, is an universal character set. You don't define any codepage/language for it. You just simply use whatever characters you like. meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 / This creates Content-Type header being http equivalent. Content is

[WSG] Problem positioning DIV bottom right always?

2004-11-30 Thread Joey
Hi i am having problems with the positioning of the "Privacy Policy" div tag element (id="privacy" in CSS) bottom right of the page. it sits positioned 7px right and 7px bottom if there is no scroller, but if you make the window small so that you get a scroller, then use the scroller to scroll

[WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread russ - maxdesign
Happy Birthday to W3C - ten years old today: http://www.w3.org/News/2004#item192 One way to design a website http://www.autisticcuckoo.net/archive.php?id=2004/11/29/one-way-to-design This article has a very interesting comment: An important detail, which most people forget, is to add rules for

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Does that really matter? In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway. IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help. In Firefox Cursor-Mode (F7) uses small text-cursor that isn't good for bad sighted people anyway. Opera with spatial navigation always adds

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:09:23 -, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that really matter? In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway. IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help. In Firefox Cursor-Mode (F7) uses small text-cursor that

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Where can I read up on these accessibility issues you've outlined? C On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, at 06:09 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote: Does that really matter? In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway. IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help. In

Re: [WSG] Problem positioning DIV bottom right always?

2004-11-30 Thread Dmitrty Kudriavtsev
Joey wrote: Hi i am having problems with the positioning of the Privacy Policy div tag element *(id=privacy in CSS)* bottom right of the page. it sits positioned 7px right and 7px bottom if there is no scroller, but if you make the window small so that you get a scroller, then use the

RE: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Patrick Lauke
From: Kornel Lesinski Does that really matter? In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway. Which is not always visible, depending on specific background colour and or background pattern/image IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help. Well,

RE: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Derek Featherstone
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:09 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote: Does that really matter? Yes, focus highlighting does matter. I come across this daily -- and I'm a keyboard user by choice... In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway. Which isn't exactly prominent - it provides a

RE: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Derek Featherstone
Sorry about that -- it appears that pressing enter while holding down the control key sends the message ( a new keystroke I didn't know about...) Here's the complete message I was trying to send: On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:09 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote: Does that really matter? Yes,

[WSG] definition tag?

2004-11-30 Thread designer
Hi all, When would you (usefully) use dfntextdfn? (enquiring minds like to know . . . :-) Thanks, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] A web standards group survey

2004-11-30 Thread Mordechai Peller
russ - maxdesign wrote: We are interested in getting your feedback about the Web Standards Group. Your question on standards left out DOM. Unfortunately, I didn't realize it until after I had finished. ** The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] definition tag?

2004-11-30 Thread Patrick Lauke
From: designer When would you (usefully) use dfntextdfn? Indicates that this is the defining instance of the enclosed term. The way I understand it - and I may be wrong - would be something like: dfn title=This is the definitionterm/dfn Semantically, a bit like an inline, single item

RE: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Derek Featherstone
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote: And you can group the above and save yourself repetition. In one of my stylesheets, for instance, I have #navbar li a:focus, #navbar li a:hover, #navbar a:active { background: #fbfbfb; } I seem to recall Tommy talking

Re: [WSG] Problem positioning DIV bottom right always?

2004-11-30 Thread Joey
Thanks for that reply, Page: http://www.blumedia.co.uk/developments/o2/q01.htm CSS: http://www.blumedia.co.uk/developments/o2/styles/f_o2.css Yes "Privacy Policy" must always be located bottom right of the page, even if there is alot of content on the page which requires the user to scroll,

[WSG] challenge: any way to do this with suckerfish-derived menus?

2004-11-30 Thread Lisa Hoppes
(cross-posted to css-d; apologies to those who see twice) We're looking to scrap some unwieldy javascript menus and use CSS-based ones instead. I have used suckerfish menus, so am familiar with implementing and customizing them. However, this has me challenged. Attributes: 1. main items go

Re: [WSG] Charsets priority and form submissions

2004-11-30 Thread Susanne Jäger
Ray Dickman wrote: Does the charset provided over http take priority over the charset specified in the html meta tags? Server should win and does in Mozilla. To sum up, conforming user agents must observe the following priorities when determining a document's character encoding (from highest

[WSG] Browser bug reports

2004-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Hardy
Came across this today on QuirksMode and thought it might be useful to list members: 'The Bug Report system is entirely dedicated to finding mending and publishing CSS and JavaScript browse bugs. Anyone can report bugs, and I hope that the existence of this system will lead to more and better

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Would you explain the abbreviation IR and what is the name, and where can I read about this rule: a[href]:focus {-moz-outline: 2px solid -moz-mac-focusring;} On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, at 05:38 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: IR techniques. a[href]:focus {-moz-outline: 2px solid

Re: [WSG] Foreign Translations

2004-11-30 Thread Ketan Vakil
Is it an okay plan to take an existing English website programmed in ColdFusion and basically duplicate it across a few other languages (French, German, Italian, Spanish) either in their own directories like /english and /espanol, or at localized domains like .com, .com.es, etc... ? What

Re: [WSG] Foreign Translations

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:30:11 -0500, Ketan Vakil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it an okay plan to take an existing English website programmed in ColdFusion and basically duplicate it across a few other languages (French, German, Italian, Spanish) either in their own directories like /english

[WSG] charater sets

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Hello - Lately, with all the discussion over UTF charsets, I've been thinking, and I doubt that I'm alone, so I will post here in the hopes of creating a nice, informative thread that we can all reference back to in the future. I administer a site that is written in english, will never be

[WSG] Web standards movement history?

2004-11-30 Thread Daniel Bowling
If anyone knows of any sites that discuss the history and methods of the web standards movement and what its future might hold I would be very interested to know. Please email me off list, and I will share the collection to avoid clutter. Dan Bowling E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:

RE: [WSG] Web standards movement history?

2004-11-30 Thread Mehdi Pourali
Hi Dan, I have just sent out a similar request to a different interest group. Please let me know if you find something about this. Mehdi Mehdi Pourali Phone: 978-264-7986 Fax: 978-264-9108 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadbus Technologies 80 Central St. Boxborough, MA 01719

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
I'm not sure what IR refers to. Here's the the CSS rule explained: a[href]:focus { /* select any anchor with an attribute href that has focus */ -moz-outline: /* mozilla implementation of a non standard, or non ratified CSS property. see below for explantion. Outline creates a border around the

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
The only problem I'm aware of is that you lose the ability to provide feedback the a link has been activated. If this is important then send IE it's own active rule: * html a:active{} cheers Terrence Wood. On 2004-12-01 4:50 AM, Derek Featherstone wrote: On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM,

Re: [WSG] charater sets

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
In UTF-8 files you can use extra characters in their natural form instead of HTML entities - like nbsp, shy, mdash, ndash. You may also use quotes, elipsis, etc. They take less space and are safer for string manipulations on server-side. You don't have to worry about copying and pasting from

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Kevin Futter
I interpreted 'IR' to stand for 'image replacement', such as FIR and sFIR et al. Cheers, Kevin Futter On 1/12/04 7:50 AM, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what IR refers to. Here's the the CSS rule explained: snip -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College

Re: [WSG] charater sets

2004-11-30 Thread berry
Kornel LesiÒski is completly right that was my problem, hidden character, but using Charset seems sometimes a nightmare and there are so much information about, that at the end you ask your self if what you understood is correct. I tryed to analyse the charset and I reached out with this 3

Re: [WSG] Web standards movement history?

2004-11-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Daniel Bowling wrote: If anyone knows of any sites that discuss the history and methods of the web standards movement and what its future might hold I would be very interested to know. Not to say that there wasn't any web standards movement before, but I'd start by looking as WaSP

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote: And you can group the above and save yourself repetition. In one of my stylesheets, for instance, I have #navbar li a:focus, #navbar li a:hover, #navbar a:active { background: #fbfbfb; } I seem to recall Tommy

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Andrew Krespanis wrote: The problem with declaring all three in one is that IE 5 (possibly 5.5 also, can't remember which right now) for PC chokes on any declaration that contains :focus. Combining your :active and :focus rules will effectively cancel that entire declaration in dodgy old IE

RE: [WSG] A web standards group survey

2004-11-30 Thread Seona Bellamy
One thing I was disappointed with in the survey: the question have you ever attended a WSG meeting? only allowed three options and there was no other option. So how could I say that I'd love to attend a WSG meeting and would if it didn't always happen on a Monday when I have a regular prior

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
Same results here for IE (similar set up) on my own test page, and I don't see any bugs in Opera 7PC, 7.5MAC normal and SSR mode. Opera's SSR is pretty aggressive and not many styles (if any) stick, so the lack of :focus support in this mode is to be expected as a feature, not a bug. Terrence

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Hmm...it doesn't seem to affect IE 5 or 5.5 (admittedly using skyx' multiple IE installations on a Win2k machine natively running 6) on www.salford.ac.uk though. Maybe just depends on a variety of factors, not sure... Hmmm indeed ;) When I get home from work I'll find the exact bug and link

RE: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Hill, Tim
I wasn't getting any problems with www.caexpo.com.au either (tabbing thru still highlights, like hover), I was testing using multiple IE installations on single PC as well though. Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The problem with declaring all three in one is that IE 5 (possibly 5.5 also, can't remember which right now) for PC chokes on any declaration that contains :focus. Combining your :active and :focus rules will effectively cancel that entire declaration in dodgy old IE. oh, dodgy old IE :/ remember

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 1 Dec 2004, at 4:13 am, Chris Kennon wrote: Would you explain the abbreviation IR and what is the name, and where can I read about this rule: a[href]:focus {-moz-outline: 2px solid -moz-mac-focusring;} IR stands for Image Replacement - like the FIR or sFir methods, where CSS (and/or Js) is

[WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all :o) Would appreciate any comments. PLEASE NOTE: Mac people - sorry not there yet, so don't even bother. I've served you up a crappy print style sheet :o( Here she is - http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/withPassion/ Thanks in advance :o) Richard

[WSG] help with CSS

2004-11-30 Thread Kym Parry
Hi, I am a new member to WSG and am hopingsomeone can help me with a problem I'm having. I'm only new to web design and CSS, and am learning as I go along. I'm trying to create a site but it is displaying differently in Firefox and IE and I'm not sure why. It is a two column template,

Re: [WSG] help with CSS

2004-11-30 Thread russ - maxdesign
Sounds like double margin bug: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html In Firefox, the left nav displays correctly, but in IE, the nav is moved further to the right than it is supposed to be, so I've had to make the image narrower than it should be to fit into the

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread mike bailey
Aloha, Cosmetically, it looks okay. There's one bug where the top navigation element sticks out of the left side, and doesn't reach the right side completely. Your dropdown menus function perfectly, but it would be better to make those liks use the pointer cursor on mouseover, as to indicate

RE: [WSG] help with CSS

2004-11-30 Thread David McDonald
Kym One thing I always do is use a Strict Doctype. I find then that the rendering between browsers is much more consistent that a Transistional Doctype. I also try not to use CSS which will invoke the IE Box Model problem. This involves using 'margin' a lot more than 'padding' where applicable.

RE: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Ted Drake
I don't like the disconnect between the word pairs flowers plants and wedding events. If they share the same drop down, they should look like they share the same button. In ff1.0 the topnav sits about 10 pixels too far left, outside the main section. Are there hover effects on the

Re: [WSG] help with CSS

2004-11-30 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 1 Dec 2004, at 11:39 AM, Kym Parry wrote: Hi,   I am a new member to WSG and am hoping someone can help me with a problem I'm having. I'm only new to web design and CSS, and am learning as I go along.   I'm trying to create a site but it is displaying differently in Firefox and IE and I'm

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Agree with Ted completely on the disconnect on those word pairs. Like the overall design. The 10px shift does exist in firefox, which, actually, does seem a bit visual interesting to me, even if it was unintended (naturally, cross browser uniformity would be good) only nearly-bothersome thing I

[WSG] Lineup divs without using left and right?

2004-11-30 Thread mike bailey
Aloha, I am currently messing around, and writing a simple template, and was wondering if there is a way to lineup 5 divs on a single line without using the left and right css properties. The template i'm messing around with is here: http://oxiserve.com/misc/test/ . Thanks in advance. Love,

Re: [WSG] Lineup divs without using left and right?

2004-11-30 Thread Mordechai Peller
mike bailey wrote: I am currently messing around, and writing a simple template, and was wondering if there is a way to lineup 5 divs on a single line without using the left and right css properties. In other words, you don't want to use absolute positioning. How's about: .fiveInRow { float :

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Thanks Ted and John :o) The disconnecting text is not something I can change as this design element was specified by the client. I've fixed the topNav -10px wierdness - only happened on the home page - quelle bizarre! :o) No hover effect on action items (yet) Top Nav landing pages do not exist

Re: [WSG] Lineup divs without using left and right?

2004-11-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mordechai Peller wrote: A possible problem you need to be aware of is that sometimes IE doesn't seem to add correctly and: 20% + 20% + 20% + 20% + 20% 100% remember that the above is also true for other browsers if margin, padding and border are anything but zero (in the correct box model) --

Re: [WSG] display image problem

2004-11-30 Thread Mordechai Peller
greg harrington wrote: Hi, this is the first time here so I hope i do thinks right. I have as part of a student group written a website for the school i work at. I'm using IE6 and the site displays images in 800 by 600 fine but in 1024 by 768 the image displays a bit to the left until i hit

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Natalie Buxton
For me, the top nav is not only ten px to the left, it is also ten px up. Leaves a brown gap between your sliced images of the wedding couple. Not sure if that is fixed in your latest changes. Cheers Natalie On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:25:02 +1100, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks

Re: [WSG] Lineup divs without using left and right?

2004-11-30 Thread Mordechai Peller
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: remember that the above is also true for other browsers if margin, padding and border are anything but zero (in the correct box model) In Firefox, last I checked, 5x(1%+18%+1%) will equal 100%, so margins, etc, aren't a problem if you account for them.

Re: [WSG] Banking sites working (or not) with Firefox

2004-11-30 Thread Paul Ross
Can any WSG UK members confirm the situation for banks over there (Nat West, Barclays, Lloyds etc...). Contact me offlist if this is OT and I will post the results. Regards PAUL ROSS SkyRocket Design Co http://www.skyrocket.com.au ** The

[WSG] div alignment problem

2004-11-30 Thread Adam Hough
This link explains it all - http://dampsponge.com/layout/floattest.htm AlrightI take a breath. I am trying to float 3 div's inside a container. On the container i have a background image that is repeated down to make it look like there are 3 columns. I am trying to get the 3 nested div's

[WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Rayner
I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: "The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this:   The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click

[WSG] Images in Nav, Splash Screens.

2004-11-30 Thread Matt
Hi Everyone, I am setting up a sports website for a client, where all of the content is in Article format which rotates regularly - essentially a news type site. I am determined to build the site in valid XHTML/CSS. I am debating with their designers about 2 things: 1. They want to use a full

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Stratford
I am sure if everyone on the list send HMV an email saying we wanted to buy some CDs and DVDs but couldnt get on their site... A good 200 customers they missed out on will probably get them whipping their webdev team into shape... I guess? Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
actually, firing up IE and taking a look at the source, not quite as unbelievable. Enough stock dreamweaver and frontpage javascript in there to choke a large horse. ~j On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM,

[WSG] site review

2004-11-30 Thread Jlinasdesign
I need everyone to take a look at my new website and give me some feedback if possible please. http://www.jlinasdesign.com Thanks guys J.LinasDesignGraphic Designerhttp://www.jlinasdesign.com/

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Matt
I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model, this is very big business

RE: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Herrod, Lisa
I thought Firefox was the (or better)! Regards Lisa Herrod Usability Analyst 02 9467 5047 --- Access Testing Centre Sydney Melbourne 112 Alexander Street28 Drummond Street Crows Nest NSW 2065 Carlton South VIC 3053 P:

Re: [WSG] Images in Nav, Splash Screens.

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Matt - On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:23:49 +1100, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am setting up a sports website for a client, where all of the content is in Article format which rotates regularly - essentially a news type site. I am determined to build the site in valid XHTML/CSS. excellent! I

Re: [WSG] Images in Nav, Splash Screens.

2004-11-30 Thread Neerav
Use Andy King's article at http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/tweak/splash/ he definitely isnt old school In the end however, they may ignore you. Thats their choice. As long as you've stated your objections in documentation they can't blame you later when the problems you predict

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
Even worse, is that there is no way to view the site on the Mac. Now they've wiped out 10% of computer users. That's a good bit of the population. Shane Helm On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this:   The

Re: [WSG] site review

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
like the background and logo. On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: x-tad-biggerI need everyone to take a look at my new website and give me some feedback if possible please. /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerhttp://www.jlinasdesign.com/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Thanks guys/x-tad-bigger

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
Yep. When has Microsoft showed any real concerns for Web Standards. On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Matt wrote: I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you

Re: [WSG] site review

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Ok - design critique. It's late, not looking at the code just yet. Keep in mind, this is one designers opinion, and as in most critiques, I have a tendancy to only mention the stuff I don't like, not the stuff I do. Overall, looks really nice. (P.S. - test browser is FF1.0) No comment on the

[WSG] Are conditional comments the way to do this?

2004-11-30 Thread Seona Bellamy
Hi guys, I have a site I'm doing for a graphic designer friend of mine, and one of the things I needed to do was to absolutely position each element of the navigation because she wanted to have them follow the shape of the design. So far so good, and I put together a working template on her Mac

[WSG] inline list issues on MAC IE

2004-11-30 Thread Natalie Buxton
Hi Guys Having issues with a site just launched where the menu dissapears on the Mac in IE. Could anyone suggest what I've done wrong here? Works great in Safari. http://www.manufacturingbestpractice.com.au The pertaining stylesheet is

Re: [WSG] Help with a layout

2004-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Matt wrote: 1. If I add content to the left or right columns, the footer doesn't push down, and the content overlaps - the layout breaks. I would like for all 3 columns to be the same height, no matter which one has more or less content. All you need is to add clear: both; to #Footer. That is

Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Dimmock
I think its important to actually note that it is a ninemsn content partner - not ninemsn itself - whose site is causing the problem. Note the redirection http://sib1.od2.com Its a branded content partner site. Chris On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:50:26 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep.

Re: [WSG] Are conditional comments the way to do this?

2004-11-30 Thread Terrence Wood
Short anwser: try and use 2 hacks. I recommend developing for the best standards compliant browsers first: Firefox, Opera, or Safari. This will ensure that your CSS is clean and valid and should work well with future standards compliant browsers. Then I deal to/with IE/PC. I always use the *

RE: [WSG] Are conditional comments the way to do this?

2004-11-30 Thread Seona Bellamy
Yes, ordinarily I do develop in Firefox first, but because I was at her house and working on her computer, I had to make do with what I had. That happened to be IE/Mac, since her install of Safari was acting oddly and kept hanging up. *sigh* Thanks for the code tips though. I'll have a play and