Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-29 Thread Richard Stanley via wsjt-devel
-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters? On 3/26/2018 5:44 PM, Mike Besemer wrote: Wow… there had been so much good discussion here about avoiding interference to other modes, and then this happens. If nothing else, it’s extremely inconsiderate and the discussion on the PSK31 lists is not favorable

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-28 Thread Hasan al-Basri
Agreed on all counts, Gary. 73, N0AN Hasan On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Gary McDuffie wrote: > > > > On Mar 28, 2018, at 5:48 AM, Hasan al-Basri > wrote: > > > > Running DXp by the developers for testing and evaluation is justifiable. >

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-28 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Mar 28, 2018, at 5:48 AM, Hasan al-Basri wrote: > > Running DXp by the developers for testing and evaluation is justifiable. > Releasing DXp "into the wild" with no restraints or protections from abuse is > irresponsible. After seeing the results of “turning

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-28 Thread Hasan al-Basri
o, they'll step in and clean up the mess they made. > > WM4B BT CL > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Brown [mailto:k...@audiosystemsgroup.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 4:24 PM > To: mwbese...@cox.net > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 M

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread Mike Besemer
: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 4:24 PM To: mwbese...@cox.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters? On 3/27/2018 3:59 AM, mwbese...@cox.net wrote: > 7040 is used mostly in Europe. Region 2 uses 7070 - thus the > existence of the 070 Club, of which I've been a member for 15 o

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread Hasan al-Basri
ll not convinced there is a crisis > right now, nor is there necessarily one brewing. I would be very reluctant > to curtail the creativity and innovation that has clearly sparked the > imaginations of a majority of active HF DXers. I’m not arguing for total > anarchy, just some restr

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread mwbesemer
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Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread Tom Melvin
inations of a majority of active HF DXers. I’m not arguing for total > anarchy, just some restraint over how we set and adjust the rules of the > game, and recognition that the situation is evolving. With a bit of > direction and guidance maybe, I believe we have the capacity, as a commun

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread Hasan al-Basri
My suggestions were specifically about the DXp mode, not FT8 in general. ..and it isn't a popularity contest, it's about observing the existing watering holes. PSK31 is in use, it will recover somewhat when more people get bored with "wham bam , thankyou ma'am" operating style. I enjoy both FT8

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread mwbesemer
pt:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net')> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters? Yeah… saw those ground loops too.  But I’ve seen them on PSK and other data modes, so I didn’t mention it; it’s not the fault of the mode. So… develo

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Everybody needs to realize a little math here. In the last 2 hours there were 488 PSK reports showing on pskreporter.Compare that to 516,312 FT8 reports. 516,312/488 = 1058 times more. Now...let's say the odds of finding a bad actor in all those PSK reports is 1-in-488 over that 2 hour period. 

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread Hasan al-Basri
total >> anarchy, just some restraint over how we set and adjust the rules of the >> game, and recognition that the situation is evolving. With a bit of >> direction and guidance maybe, I believe we have the capacity, as a >> community, to self-regulate and reach a pragma

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-27 Thread mwbesemer
March 2018 1:59 p.m. To: 'WSJT software development' <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters? Yeah… saw those ground loops too. But I’ve seen them on PSK and other data modes, so I didn’t mention it; it’s not the fault of the mode. So

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/26/2018 5:44 PM, Mike Besemer wrote: Wow… there had been so much good discussion here about avoiding interference to other modes, and then this happens. If nothing else, it’s extremely inconsiderate and the discussion on the PSK31 lists is not favorable for FT8. I wish the developers

Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-26 Thread Mike Besemer
they’ve let out of the bottle and either find a way to fix it or get rid of it. The FT8 crowd would be upset if the shoe were on the other foot. Mike WM4B From: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 8:39 PM To: mwbesemer mwbesemer Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters? Yes he is running

[wsjt-devel] DXpedition Mode on 40 Meters?

2018-03-26 Thread mwbesemer mwbesemer
Everything from about 7.071 up is useless due to FT8 QRM from stations calling 7Q7EI. Is he running DXPedition Mode? Pity people don't listen before they transmit.  If the FT8 crowd wonders why other modes hate them, this is the answer. MikeWM4B