Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 Issue

Hello group: I would also like to confirm Bill NZ0T issue with the retain checkboxes. I did not notice the issue before the production version (although it might have been there in RC5 - but I only used that one in contest mode). OS: Windows7Pro, logging via JTAlert to DXkeeper. 73 Paul, VA3P

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 Issue

William Carpenter Wed, Dec 12, 7:20 AM (2 days ago) to wsjtgroup I have not had this issue with any previous version including the 2.0-rcx versions. If I select the "Retain" boxes on "Txpower" and "Comments" in the logging window it does not retain what I enter but rather always retains the very

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Hi Joe, This is what I noticed that may need correcting: 1.  I see a reference to RC6 for the download packages.    I realize they will be updated, and they all go currently goes to a 404 page.   Just a note about it :) 2.  Sec 6.6 - Under FT8 DXpedition mode.    You may want to change the 'm

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Hi Joe A few more thoughts: Section 6.6 // Further helpful tips on FT8 operating procedures are available here. Thanks to ZL2IFB! // Has Gary updated this to reflect recent changes? Screenshots in WSJT User Guide need updating (they are from 1.7) // To avoid QRM from competing callers, it is

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

m: Ed Muns > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 4:07 PM > To: 'WSJT software development' > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide > > If your goal with a PDF is to print, that can be done direct from the html. > And, it comes out perfectly formatted. In my Chrom

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide Hi all, I have posted what I'm calling a "minimally acceptable" WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide on the WSJT web site: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.0.html It's what will come up in your browser when yo

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Cntrl F will find it - also useful for searching for something specific > > >> On Dec 4, 2018, at 14:54, char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk >> wrote: >> >> Minor typo: >> >> IMproved support for compound and nonstandard callsigns > > I’m sure it would help to tell where the error is locate

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 14:54, char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote: > > Minor typo: > > IMproved support for compound and nonstandard callsigns I’m sure it would help to tell where the error is located. Something like page number, paragraph number, etc. Gary - AG0N

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide PDF

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ijtfbow5urghoi6/WSJT-X%202.0%20User%20Guide.pdf?dl=0 George J Molnar KF2T, Arlington, Virginia, USA Please note my new email: geo...@molnar.tv _

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

On 12/4/2018 4:58 PM, Richard Solomon wrote: If you really want a PDF file, then still use the browser print function and direct it to a PDF create application.  There are a number of freeware ones that work fine. I regularly use Libre Office to create pdf files from Libre Office, Word or Pow

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

ms/weboutlook> From: Richard Solomon Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 4:24 PM To: e...@w0yk.com; WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide I don't want to print it out, not yet. A simple conversion will do. A Google search hasn't provided a "simple

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Yep, works great. Just emailed it to Dick W1KSZ. Ed W0YK _ From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] Sent: 04 December, 2018 15:36 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide On 04/12/2018 23:24, Richard Solomon wrote: A

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

html doc and select PrimoPDF instead of a printer. That seems pretty simple to me. Ed W0YK _ From: Richard Solomon [mailto:w1...@outlook.com] Sent: 04 December, 2018 15:25 To: e...@w0yk.com; WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide I don&#x

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

On 04/12/2018 23:24, Richard Solomon wrote: A Google search hasn't provided a "simple" method, yet. 73, Dick, W1KSZ Hi Dick, Doesn't Google Docs have an HTML to PDF convertor? https://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2007/08/02/easy-html-to-pdf-using-google-docs/ 73 Bill G4WJS.

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

4:07 PM To: 'WSJT software development' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide If your goal with a PDF is to print, that can be done direct from the html. And, it comes out perfectly formatted. In my Chrome browser, I simply right-click the html manual and select ‘Print’ on the

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

On 04/12/2018 23:07, Ed Muns wrote: If your goal with a PDF is to print, that can be done direct from the html.  And, it comes out perfectly formatted.  In my Chrome browser, I simply right-click the html manual and select ‘Print’ on the menu that comes up.  For me, it was 56 pages (28 sheets

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

T software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide Any chance there is a pdf version of the Users Guide ?? Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> _ From: Jim Nuytens Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:18 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

On 04/12/2018 22:39, Richard Solomon wrote: Any chance there is a pdf version of the Users Guide ?? Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ Hi Dick, PDF renderings in A4 and US Letter format are published when releases are made. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing l

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Any chance there is a pdf version of the Users Guide ?? Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Jim Nuytens Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:18 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

You can lead them to the manual, but your can't make them RTFM. ;-) Just saying :-P On 12/4/2018 20:29, Joe Taylor wrote: Hi all, I have posted what I'm calling a "minimally acceptable" WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide on the WSJT web site: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/ws

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Hi Joe Minor typo: IMproved support for compound and nonstandard callsigns Charlie > Hi all, > > I have posted what I'm calling a "minimally acceptable" WSJT-X 2.0 User > Guide on the WSJT web site: > > http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.0.html > > It's wha

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide

Hi all, I have posted what I'm calling a "minimally acceptable" WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide on the WSJT web site: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.0.html It's what will come up in your browser when you click *Online User Guide" from the Help menu in RC4, RC5, o

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:27:50 -0500 "Larry Banks" wrote: > I was going to say the /ME was not illegal, especially with the space: W1DYJ > /ME. Quite right. The problem is when people will try to log it as W1DYJ/ME. Trust me, it will happen. Aside from that I really can't say if the FCC cares ab

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 22:42:30 + Bill Somerville wrote: > point taken, but ME is not a valid UK prefix. We have 2E, MM etc. but > the England M prefix is just plain 'M' followed by a digit. Ah, my logging software's mistake then. I entered a test call with /ME and it said England. I suppose s

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

. Any chance of setting up a sched? John KW7A Utah, USA Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Larry Banks Date: 12/3/18 4:27 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1 Hi Bil

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

I need Maine on 80 meters.Any chance of setting up a sched? JohnKW7A Utah, USA Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Larry Banks Date: 12/3/18 4:27 PM (GMT-07:00) To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

8 17:42 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1 On 03/12/2018 22:24, Jim Shorney wrote: Not to mention that /ME would suggest that the op is in England, and would be a rules violation if he is not. 73 -Jim NU0C Hi Jim and Larry, p

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

On 03/12/2018 22:24, Jim Shorney wrote: Not to mention that /ME would suggest that the op is in England, and would be a rules violation if he is not. 73 -Jim NU0C Hi Jim and Larry, point taken, but ME is not a valid UK prefix. We have 2E, MM etc. but the England M prefix is just plain 'M'

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

Not to mention that /ME would suggest that the op is in England, and would be a rules violation if he is not. 73 -Jim NU0C On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 17:03:59 -0500 Joe Taylor wrote: > Larry -- > > On 12/3/2018 16:50, Larry Banks W1DYJ wrote: > > > I have just switched to 2.0 RC5.  I use it mainly

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

Larry -- On 12/3/2018 16:50, Larry Banks W1DYJ wrote: I have just switched to 2.0 RC5.  I use it mainly for HF/FT8. With FT8 and when at my 2nd home in Maine, I usually change my TX6 -- the autoloaded /_*CQ W1DYJ FN43*_/ -- to /_*CQ W1DYJ /ME*_/ as Maine is far more important info than just F

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC5 -- difference from 1.9.1

Hi, I have just switched to 2.0 RC5. I use it mainly for HF/FT8. With FT8 and when at my 2nd home in Maine, I usually change my TX6 -- the autoloaded CQ W1DYJ FN43 -- to CQ W1DYJ /ME as Maine is far more important info than just FN43 (v1.9.1). NOW, it won’t take the /ME (v2.0 RC5). When I tr

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

Hi Bill, You are right. Thanks for spotting the wrong chevron. Problem solved. — John G4KLA smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listin

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

On 28/11/2018 15:20, John Nelson wrote: Hi Bill, That does sort files in blocks of date order; but within a block the sequence remains in numerical order. I tried Data Modified and Data Created - which is effectively the same. The drop down list doesn't have time ordered, ie: ls -l — J

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

Hi Bill, That does sort files in blocks of date order; but within a block the sequence remains in numerical order. I tried Data Modified and Data Created - which is effectively the same. The drop down list doesn't have time ordered, ie: ls -l — John G4KLA smime.p7s Description: S/MIME c

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

Hi Steve, > Personally, I prefer the naming convention the way it is now. I can tell > which files are FT8 and which are JT65 by their different name formats. Good point. I retract my suggestion… — John G4KLA smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature __

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

On 28/11/2018 14:34, John Nelson wrote: I got caught out by the fact that the Open list is in strict numerical order not time order. Hi John, you can change the sort order for the Finder window: Thank will list them in strict creation time order. 73 Bill G4WJS.

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

> > *** Would it not be better if files were always numbered with 6 time digits > insted of a mix of 4 and 6 digits, then the list would be ordered in a > squential manner? Hi John, Glad that you figured out what was going on. Personally, I prefer the naming convention the way it is now. I

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

Hi John, Would it not be better if files were always numbered with 6 time digits insted of a mix of 4 and 6 digits, then the list would be ordered in a squential manner? Possibly, but that's not the way we've done it. Labeling files with 4-digit times makes good sense for the modes with 60

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

Steve, Agree there is not a problem. I got caught out by the fact that the Open list is in strict numerical order not time order. So my last FT8 WAV file was 181128_114500.wav before switching to JT65 and so I was looking for the JT65 files to appear next in the list. But the first JT65

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

Hi John, I haven’t noticed that problem here on MacOS 10.14. Steve, k9an > On Nov 28, 2018, at 7:03 AM, John Nelson wrote: > > macOS 10.13.6: v2.0.0-rc5: > > FT8 is working well, colours included, on 20m, 30m and 40m. Several reports > of -24 dB so sensitivity is vey good. > > I switch

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5: Open list problem

macOS 10.13.6: v2.0.0-rc5: FT8 is working well, colours included, on 20m, 30m and 40m. Several reports of -24 dB so sensitivity is vey good. I switched to JT65 for checks - all well. But, when attempting to decode a saved JT65 WAV file I notice that in the “Open” list, only FT8 WAV files a

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5

27;t want the 'Auto seq' to move to CQ (Tx6) at the end of every QSO. 73 Stephen - K6SJT From: M Lewton [mailto:mplew...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:45 PM To: WSJT software development Sub

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc5

Hello Joe I tried rc5 on 2 ea. I5 computers running Windows 10 pro.. Latest versions. Running rc5 yesterday afternoon and today. Works very good, FT8 only tested. A lot more operators today, must be catching on. I was getting tired working the same 20 or so hams the last week. Still jumps o

Re: [wsjt-devel] Wsjt-x 2.0 RC3

On 01/11/2018 15:52, Wolfgang wrote: Think it's the way around. Bart, as ON1418END, was calling CQ and a DL8 station answered. Could be, the DL8 is still using 1.9. The reply to his CQ, the free text, has exactly 13 characters = 'ON1418END DL8'. 73 de Wolfgang OE1MWW Hi Wolfgang, read my pos

Re: [wsjt-devel] Wsjt-x 2.0 RC3

Hello Bill, Think it's the way around. Bart, as ON1418END, was calling CQ and a DL8 station answered. Could be, the DL8 is still using 1.9. The reply to his CQ, the free text, has exactly 13 characters = 'ON1418END DL8'. 73 de Wolfgang OE1MWW Thursday, November 1, 2018, 4:40:33 PM, you wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Wsjt-x 2.0 RC3

On 01/11/2018 14:44, Bart Janse wrote: Hello we have a problem if we use een non standard call (special call) if send CQ on1418end en if we have a respons de call from te responder will be cut and de software doe not repond on it. 132445 Tx 1411 ~ CQ ON1418END 132515 Tx 1411 ~ CQ ON1418END

Re: [wsjt-devel] Wsjt-x 2.0 RC3

Good Day: I was able to select Tx2 to reply to ON1418END instead of Tx1 to establish contact. Then the rest was okay, EXCEPT that once the placed another's call sign in this section instead of my own; to over come this I just typed in tnx my call sign and 73 after we exchanged signal levels Si

[wsjt-devel] Wsjt-x 2.0 RC3

Hello we have a problem if we use een non standard call (special call) if send CQ on1418end en if we have a respons de call from te responder will be cut and de software doe not repond on it. 132445 Tx 1411 ~ CQ ON1418END 132515 Tx 1411 ~ CQ ON1418END 132545 Tx 1411 ~ CQ ON1418END 132615 Tx 14

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0-rc2 Adjust tx slider while transmitting interrupts tones

*WSJT-X 2.0-rc * *took a quick search of the archive and did not see this.* On the current beta release, adjust the tx power slider during the tx interval, the tones get interrupted. This is on dual core p4 3.4 GHz with windows 7 and 16 GB ram. ___ wsj

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 rc1

I have worked a few station on new release in new mode and each new start first qso in auto sequence did not auto sequence to TX3 instead returned to TX1 2nd qso auto sequence sent TX3 as it should. I installed to a thumb drive but picked up all my info and settings. Windows 10 home on Dell 660

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 RC1

I installed it at OH2K, my club station. Computer is Windows 7 desktop, and I installed it in a directory I called c:/wsjt/wsjt-x-2_0, and tried the new FT8 format. To get on 14.078 and 7.078, I had to insert the frequencies in the frequency list, as they were not on the drop-down frequency se

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0

Hi, I have just installed ver 2.0 and will give it a good going over :-). The first thing I have noticed is that there is a display problem in the Band Activity and RX Frequency boxes, the black text is a bit subdued and difficult to read on the various colours whereas in ver 1.9.1 it was bla

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-x 2.0 - 2nd instance crashed on 2.0 TX

In the "For what it's worth..." department... I installed WSJT-x 2.0.0-rc1 on my Windows 10 desktop this evening. Opened two instances of the program - main program on my Icom, 2nd instance on my Kenwood. Ran older version FT8 on both instances and made a few contacts. Icom on was 14.074 MHz

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Igor, I think that the Vojager probes communication links still work without any HLR/VLR database technique at a distance of more than 100 astronomical units and nobody makes complaints. Am I missing something I yet don't know? 73 Nico / IV3NWV ___ wsjt

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Igor, If you believe that DX-Spotting is equivalent to internet assisted sensitivity enhancement, then there is no point in further discussion. Apples and oranges, at the very least. N0AN Hasan On Mon

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

; To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > IMO, it is very likely that an Internet dependant mode will not be > acce

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

>Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol >Message-ID: < cedeed7f-9422-3e2c-b286-a3abc1508...@vkdxer.net > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >IMO, it is very likely that an Internet dependant mode will not be >accepted f

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hi all, No software in the WSJT family has ever depended on having an internet "co-channel". No software in the WSJT family will ever do so. I cannot imagine why anyone might have thought otherwise. I cannot imagine why anyone might have thought the wsjt-devel email reflector would be a su

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

On 10/09/2018 8:05 AM, David Tiller wrote: Your example of pskreporter and hamspots are not involved in and do not facilitate QSOs - they only collect metadata of QSOs. Any attempt to involve the internet with the completion of QSOs will probably be rejected by the ham community. If you want

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

From: "G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF)" mailto:wsjtde...@gape.me.uk>> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Message-ID: mailto:cdad522e-acfc-16b7-53f2-766fbad16...@gape.me.uk>

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

hamspots.net at 24x7 operation. . 73 Igor UA3DJY >Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 01:32:20 +0100 >From: "G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF)" < wsjtde...@gape.me.uk > >To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol >Messag

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Amen, George. Ham radio is about _radio_, not the internet. On Sep 8, 2018, at 19:13, George J Molnar mailto:geo...@molnar.com>> wrote: While it probably is a remote possibility that the WSJT-X team is contemplating adding internet-based linkages, I want to agree with N2ADV and emphatically say

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Igor, you forgot to mention that HLR & VLR technology is a *network* artefact, generally to be found in mobile telecommunications networks. The application to the Amateur Radio Service, where there are a large number of stations but *no* over-arching network control is very unclear. For a pu

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Bravo, George! Internet help with the decode? That's downright silly. If we are going to use the internet to replace even a portion of the performance of rf, heck why bother with rf at all, and we can have infinite sensitivity? Hasan O

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Bravo, George! Internet help with the decode? That's downright silly. If we are going to use the internet to replace even a portion of the performance of rf, heck why bother with rf at all, and we can have infinite sensitivity? Hasan On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 6:13 PM George J Molnar wrote: > Whil

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

While it probably is a remote possibility that the WSJT-X team is contemplating adding internet-based linkages, I want to agree with N2ADV and emphatically say “no!” to any ham radio communications protocol that relies on anything but ham radio to work effectively. Even in this day of skimmers

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Hello Joe and all, . Most of questions raised on this subject can be solved via HLR/VLR database server usage, where visitor location register can match to the specific HF band where callsign, frequency, hash of the message being transmitted, protocol

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hello Joe and all, . Most of questions raised on this subject can be solved via HLR/VLR database server usage, where visitor location register can match to the specific HF band where callsign, frequency, hash of the message being transmitted, protocol and code rate can be stored, callsign hash c

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

: Nico Palermo Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 1:47:21 PM To: WSJT software development Cc: Игорь Ч Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Hello Take, Rather, I suggest to form approved “working group” which defines the objective and timeline under this community. Fo

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hello Take, Rather, I suggest to form approved “working group” which defines the > objective and timeline under this community. > For what concerns WSJT-X I think that a working group already exists and there's no need for a new working group working on top of the existing one. You are already f

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Nico Palermo Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 1:44:33 PM To: WSJT software development Cc: Игорь Ч Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Take, we can indeed agree that transmitting a

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Take, we can indeed agree that transmitting an hash key could be better than to send a full call sign. Anyway when you transmit an hash key you miss the possibility for receivers to go back to the original information unless they decode a complete sequence of messages. With FT8 or with all the ot

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Nico Palermo Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 9:00:12 AM To: Игорь Ч; WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Probably

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

986> for > Windows 10 > > > -------------- > *From:* Nico Palermo > *Sent:* Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:19:43 AM > *To:* k...@arrl.net; WSJT software development > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol > > > Most application

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

ftware development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Most applications of diversity reception are on the MF and low HF bands. I believe that most fading on these bands is selective fading, where signals traveling slightly different paths, the low-frequency equival

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

> Most applications of diversity reception are on the MF and low HF bands. I > believe that most fading on these bands is selective fading, where signals > traveling slightly different paths, the low-frequency equivalent of > picket-fencing at VHF/UHF. It might be worth studying propagation on the

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hi Jim -- On 9/1/2018 5:31 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 9/1/2018 11:26 AM, Joe Taylor wrote: It's worth mentioning that for more than a decade MAP65, a sister program of WSJT, WSPR, and WSJT-X, has provided a powerful and uniquely effective form of diversity reception: polarization diversity.  And

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

On 9/1/2018 11:26 AM, Joe Taylor wrote: It's worth mentioning that for more than a decade MAP65, a sister program of WSJT, WSPR, and WSJT-X, has provided a powerful and uniquely effective form of diversity reception: polarization diversity.  And yes, the outputs of two receivers ARE simply be a

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hi all, On 9/1/2018 1:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 9/1/2018 3:14 AM, Iztok Saje wrote: Instead of overcomplicating protocols, diversity reception shall be considered. Diversity reception has been around for nearly a century, and depends on the very complex computing engine located between the

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

On 9/1/2018 3:14 AM, Iztok Saje wrote: Instead of overcomplicating protocols, diversity reception shall be considered. Diversity reception has been around for nearly a century, and depends on the very complex computing engine located between the ears of the operator. My guess is that any deco

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

I’m misunderstanding. Jim S. N2ADV From: Игорь Ч via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 6:33 PM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Игорь Ч Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Hello Joe, . It was

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hello! Commenting contribution by Take, Igor etc: Instead of overcomplicating protocols, diversity reception shall be considered. Instead of variable bit rate, we can get up to 5 dB by combining repeated frames. We can often see several repetitions of same frame. Each repetition has different

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AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Hi, Take. Greetings from Italy :-) A variable transmission rate would be appreciable indeed but we often forget that the main purpose of the WSJT-X modes was that of allowing some reliable amateur comm

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> > Probably we can add more flexibility if some information will be passed > over Internet, for instance free text messages and GRID, it will spare more > bits toward sensitivity on the radio interface. Ok, Igor, but then I would prefer to call the new modes "Weak Internet Communications". 73 N

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gt; > > de JA5AEA > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > ---------- > *From:* Nico Palermo > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 7:04:31 AM > *To:* WSJT software development > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-de

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hello Joe, . It was excellent example with the WSPR QSO, just thought we can get additional FT8 gain if some messages at QSO will be transmitted as 'hash hash' / 'call hash' / 'hash call'   instead of callsigns. . Yes, there is a trade off between the sensitivity and protocol flexibility. Probab

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indows 10 From: Nico Palermo Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 7:04:31 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Furthermore there is no need to improve a protocol just to cope with energy limits when a really va

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

indows 10 From: Nico Palermo Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 7:04:31 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Furthermore there is no need to improve a protocol just to cope with energy limits when a really va

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Furthermore there is no need to improve a protocol just to cope with energy limits when a really variable medium, as the ionosphere is in the HFs, is the limit itself. Of course we could think to a new mode in which a 2-way QSO between two antipodal points on earth would require 50 mWatts instead o

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Hi Igor, Earlier this month you made suggestions for a possible new protocol for minimal weak-signal QSOs. I have been away on vacation since that time, so have not had a chance to respond. Of course there are many possible ways to make design trade-offs involving message size, duration of

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AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol I'd just leave it to the WSJT-X team, and only the WSJT-X team. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/9/2018 4:08 PM, Andras Bato wrote: George is quite right! Leave it

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

-devel@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol I'd just leave it to the WSJT-X team, and only the WSJT-X team. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/9/2018 4:08 PM, Andras Bato wrote: George is quite right! Leave it to the dev team -and to Igor! It well worth to tes

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol I'd just leave it to the WSJT-X team, and only the WSJT-X team. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/9/2018 4:08 PM, Andras Bato wrote: George is quite right! Leave it to the dev team -and to Igor! It well worth to test what does JTDX

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

I'd just leave it to the WSJT-X team, and only the WSJT-X team. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/9/2018 4:08 PM, Andras Bato wrote: George is quite right! Leave it to the dev team -and to Igor! It well worth to test what does JTDX dev team do. gl de ha6nn Andras On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:10 PM, George J Moln

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George is quite right! Leave it to the dev team -and to Igor! It well worth to test what does JTDX dev team do. gl de ha6nn Andras On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:10 PM, George J Molnar wrote: > I think he is lamenting the “loss of sensitivity” with FT8 compared to > JT65 now that the former has come t

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ntion that the suggestion leaves out provisions for the various contests that the updated protocol will cover. Neil, KN3ILZ On 8/8/2018 11:03 AM, Wolfgang wrote: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Neil, you have to read before you snap back! Igor wrote, that we miss the se

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> On Aug 8, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Wolfgang wrote: > > So, we have -21 db in FT8 and in JT65 of around -27db > (92% decoded at -27db, 58% at -28db and 17% at -29db) FYI, several times in the last two or three weeks, I have decoded very weak ones at -24. At least that’s the report the program i

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Title: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol Neil, you have to read before you snap back! Igor wrote, that we miss the sensivity of JT65 in FT8 ! So, we have -21 db in FT8 and in JT65 of around -27db (92% decoded at -27db, 58% at -28db and 17% at -29db) And the new

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

I think he is lamenting the “loss of sensitivity” with FT8 compared to JT65 now that the former has come to dominate. Not sure his math works out, so will leave that to the dev team. Imagine they are keenly interested in performance, too. George J Molnar Virginia, USA > On Aug 8, 2018, at 8:

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.0 possible new mode/protocol

Frankly,  I don't see where you're getting the idea that JT65 sensitivity is missing? It is still much more sensitive than FT8, and will be for the foreseeable future, as are the other WSJT-X modes.    JT9A is at -27, JT65A is at -25, and QRA64A  is at -26.   FT8 is -21 .. all this is based o

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