Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom 7300 Split weirdness with 2.3.0 Oc42df

2021-03-04 Thread Gary McDuffie
On Mar 4, 2021, at 19:55, David Garnier wrote:I solved my problem, by going into the Split Operation box and uncheck Rig to None.Just be sure that you always operate somewhere between 1500 and 2000 Hz with your transmitter.  There’s a reason for running “split”, and you have defeated it by saying

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 14:34, Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > Just as an FYI, one of the programs that I wrote and posted in the same > location as the Alltext.exe program > allows you to sync to internet time when the internet is available or to > manually adjust the time by user >

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 14:34, Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > Just as an FYI, one of the programs that I wrote and posted in the same > location as the Alltext.exe program > allows you to sync to internet time when the internet is available or to > manually adjust the time by user >

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Jim Shorney
And for those that advocate for the simplicity factor using WWV, your ears, and your mouse finger is about as simple as it gets. And it works! 73 -Jim NU0C On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 10:19:40 -0800 Mark Spencer wrote: > Most of the time > an initial manual sync of the computer clock while

[wsjt-devel] Icom 7300 Split weirdness with 2.3.0 Oc42df

2021-03-04 Thread David Garnier
Hello, I solved my problem, by going into the Split Operation box and uncheck Rig to None. Test setup as follows: WSJTX configured for operation with 7300, no other crap software in between, nothing. The barest of configuration. Note. I swear the prior release didn't have this problem but I

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Bill Frantz
On 3/4/21 at 3:21 PM, al...@alangroups.plus.com (Alan) wrote: With my dongle I also get an intermittent issue with W10 seemingly forgetting the USB enumeration, and having to reset the GPS software to find the dongle again. I still haven't got to the bottom of that one, as it of course never

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Alawler
I've been thinking about this a bit more  from a use case perspective. It takes 60ms for a radio wave to travel half way around the world. If we had tightly synchronized clock time, and tx and rx chain delay corrections, we could use wspr as a poor man's woodpecker and distinguish between a

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Alan
It only happens to me occasionally and is easy to rectify but certainly puzzled me, and I suspected a faulty dongle until a web search told me it was likely a USB enumeration issue. I think it's probably something to do with the order of my plugging in the rig CAT control, the GPS dongle,

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/4/2021 12:02 PM, Richard Larson via wsjt-devel wrote: Another way to fudge the time with or without the internet is to use the manual set function built into a time sync windows app like BktTimeSync. I use this app to sync time with either the internet or GPS dongle but should be a help

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
Hi All, Just as an FYI, one of the programs that I wrote and posted in the same location as the Alltext.exe programallows you to sync to internet time when the internet is available or to manually adjust the time by userspecified number of milliseconds. The program is a Windows only program

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Mark Spencer
I will say I agree with the concerns expressed by Alan G0TLK about USB enumeration. For that and other reasons I am hesitant to use additional USB devices while engaging in portable operation or roving. Mike W9MDB, thanks for making TimeFudge available I shall have to try that. Thanks all and

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Richard Larson via wsjt-devel
Another way to fudge the time with or without the internet is to use the manual set function built into a time sync windows app like BktTimeSync. I use this app to sync time with either the internet or GPS dongle but should be a help to some to just fudge time to make a decode possible. Rick

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Alan
As someone who has met this very issue in practice it's not quite as simple or black and white as implied. Yes my GPS dongle works, but as I said when operating portable with access on foot, probably a long way up a hill, it's a different matter, every last ounce or gram carried can feel like

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Alawler
I would like to +1 this use case for a different reason. I run a few time synced  Raspberry pi/sdr/gqrx/wsjtx wspr monitors continuously. The slow receive chain routinely reports >2 second DT  errors on all stations.   Al WB1BQE ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​ On Mar 4, 2021, 11:56, at 11:56,

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 08:47, David Smith wrote: ... > 2) I'm not suggesting at all that WSJT modify the system clock. In fact, my > suggestion is that WSJT leave the system clock alone, and that we add a > feature that allows offset to the system clock. But why are you interested in working

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Neil Zampella
Mike Black and created a small program/script that will allow you to hand adjust your time.  You can find it on his QRZ page: https://www.qrz.com/db/W9MDB Neil, KN3ILZ On 3/4/2021 11:51 AM, David Smith wrote: again, clarifying the use case: Portable use, no internet. On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
You will find a Windows program and a Unix file you can compile for tweaking the system time on my QRZ page. I call it TimeFudge. https://www.qrz.com/db/w9mdb Mike W9MDB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 12:23:30 PM CST, Mark Spencer wrote: A few comments regarding this topic from the

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Bill Frantz
On 3/4/21 at 1:19 PM, netsyn...@gmail.com (Mark Spencer) wrote: I have recently started to use WiFi to tether my PC to my iPhone when I have cellular coverage (mostly to enable access to chat boards.) Evaluating how well my PC and its software can use that connectivity to sync its clock is on

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Mark Spencer
A few comments regarding this topic from the perspective of someone who does most of their WSJT-X operating from portable locations. It is nice to be able to operate without needing an automated means of keeping the computer clock synced to an external source. Most of the time an initial manual

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Bill Frantz
On 3/4/21 at 10:47 AM, dsm...@mypchelp.com (David Smith) wrote: 3) Using other devices or software to do this for you adds complexity that isn't necessary; ntpd, chrony, GPS, all of these add new dependencies and fiddles/adjustments that make using WSJT more complicated to use. Also, these

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread David Smith
"The only way around that..." --> I'd disagree. "If you are that far off .." --> It's software. When there's will, there's a way. "internt time" --> Problem statement/use case is portable use without internet access. On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:17 AM Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel <

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread David Smith
again, clarifying the use case: Portable use, no internet. On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:56 AM Derek Turner via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I find this interesting because a while ago I suggested something similar > where the system clock could be adjusted in order to

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread n2lo
A bit set high shows that you have a disciplned clock. Meaning trustworthy.Otherwise, the bit should be set low.Only, DTs with trustworthy bit set high are used to do any clock correction.Otherwise, you run the risk of temporal drifting like frequency drifting of free running vcos.BCNU DE

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Derek Turner via wsjt-devel
I find this interesting because a while ago I suggested something similar where the system clock could be adjusted in order to synchronise with and work rare DX stations whose clocks were significantly erroneous. I started experimenting but lost interest when the particular problem I was

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Jim Pennino via wsjt-devel
>From: David Smith >To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, >    automatic/manual >Message-ID:  >   >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >To clarify my use case and some reasoning: > >1) Since WSJT is highly dependent on clock

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
David, If you are that far off the internet time, how would the instance of WSJT-X running on your PC be able to even decode the incoming messages and letting you know how far of you are. The whole point of syncing to internet time (FT8, FT4) is that it needs the timing to decode said

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread David Smith
To clarify my use case and some reasoning: 1) Since WSJT is highly dependent on clock accuracy, there should be a way to either manually or automatically sync the clock to received stations. 2) I'm not suggesting at all that WSJT modify the system clock. In fact, my suggestion is that WSJT leave

Re: [wsjt-devel] Fw: CAT+YAESU_FTDX3000, WSJTX2.3.0 ....a.so

2021-03-04 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
hamlib now does band stacking for Yaesu rigs. You need to set up each of your bands as you want them in the band stack and WSJT-X will recall those settings. Mike W9MDB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 04:26:28 AM CST, Dirk Kuschke via wsjt-devel wrote: - Weitergeleitete

Re: [wsjt-devel] Fw: DD5KD-WSJTX.INI

2021-03-04 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Dirk, I am not sure why you are sending me your WSJT-X settings file. I only recall asking you to run a test using a customized diagnostic logging configuration to help with diagnosing issues with CAT control of your FTdx3000. I have no record of receiving that diagnostic log. 73 Bill

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Alan
If it's a site near the car or maybe in a building etc, then yes the dongle works well. However if on foot while certainly not a major issue it's one more thing to pack/carry, and to go wrong, plus of course it uses more of the scarce battery power. Alan G0TLK, sent from my mobile device On

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Claude Frantz
On 3/4/21 11:43 AM, Alan wrote: In my experience portable operation does indeed have a problem with drifting clocks due to temperature variations, and particularly wind. Internet connectivity may well be unavailable, so I've bought a cheap GPS dongle that does the job just fine. A good

Re: [wsjt-devel] clock offset / fudge adjustment, automatic/manual

2021-03-04 Thread Alan
In my experience portable operation does indeed have a problem with drifting clocks due to temperature variations, and particularly wind. Internet connectivity may well be unavailable, so I've bought a cheap GPS dongle that does the job just fine. I'm not sure a fixed clock adjustment will

[wsjt-devel] Fw: DD5KD-WSJTX.INI

2021-03-04 Thread Dirk Kuschke via wsjt-devel
- Weitergeleitete Nachricht - Von: Dirk Kuschke An: Bill Somerville ; Dirk Kuschke Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2021, 09:13:16 MEZBetreff: Fw: DD5KD-WSJTX.INI Hello Bill, sorry for this question i can´t get an answer until now.Did you get the WSJT-X.ini? 73, DirkDD5KD

[wsjt-devel] Fw: CAT+YAESU_FTDX3000, WSJTX2.3.0 ....a.so

2021-03-04 Thread Dirk Kuschke via wsjt-devel
- Weitergeleitete Nachricht - Von: Dirk Kuschke An: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2021, 16:03:22 MEZBetreff: CAT+YAESU_FTDX3000, WSJTX2.3.0 a.so Hello, sinceFTDX version 2.3.0 my yaesu ftdx3000d changes to split mode when I change the

Re: [wsjt-devel] IC-9700 tester

2021-03-04 Thread Maurizio Brameri
If another candidate is needed, my 9700 is available.  73, Maurizio I2NOY Il 04/03/2021 07:54, Roeland Jansen ha scritto: mine is still available if you need it. Be sure to mail me before so that the USB connection is available since we only use ether here On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 23:36 Black