Edgar,
I asked you if your concept of 'self' was real or an illusion.
You answered:
>BTW to answer your question I have no concept of self.
>If I had one it would be an illusion, though a consistent one for sure!
I find that a queer response, or at an unexpected one. First of all you
seem to h
the Plummer thinks...Bill!
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Bill,
Strange, I thought you believed every
Why Great Minds Can't Grasp Consciousness
By Ker Than, LiveScience Staff Writer
http://www.livescience.com/health/050808_human_consciousness.html
At a physics meeting last October, Nobel laureate David Gross outlined
25 questions in science that he thought physics might help answer.
Nestled among
observer (such as causality) is an
illusion.
Is your concept of 'self' real or an illusion?
...Bill!
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as an observer (such as causality) is an illusion.
Is your concept of 'self' real or an illusion?
...Bill!
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Hi Edgar,
My comment is written below:
>What nonsense! That experience suggests there is an
objective world (the eggplant) and that the cognitive >representation of
that world is illusion. Only if the monk went back again later and it
wasn't an eggplant but a >squashed frog and kept changing ever
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Date: Thursday, 16 October, 2008, 3:36 AM
Anthony Wu <> There is a flaw in the story. The Buddhist monk should
read Jainist monk. Stepping on a frog unwittingly is not considered as
b
Chris,
Glad to hear we are of one mind!
Best,
Edgar
On Oct 15, 2008, at 3:47 PM, cid830 wrote:
Edgar,
Brilliant! How can one argue with that? Everyone may have their own
perception of reality. That perception itself is the illusion. I
think you have really topped off your arguement. I have
Edgar,
Brilliant! How can one argue with that? Everyone may have their own
perception of reality. That perception itself is the illusion. I
think you have really topped off your arguement. I have to say
though, I was preparing a post very similar to this, you just beat
me to the punch!
Late
Anthony Wu <> There is a flaw in the story. The Buddhist monk should
read Jainist monk. Stepping on a frog unwittingly is not considered as
breaking a buddhist precept>
Get your story straight! You sound like a real faker! First you fake
your satori, now you fake a story, what next? fake orgasm
Margie (and Bill),
What nonsense! That experience suggests there is an objective world
(the eggplant) and that the cognitive representation of that world is
illusion. Only if the monk went back again later and it wasn't an
eggplant but a squashed frog and kept changing every time he looked
What can I say...I took a shot...
Un-dead frogs and pissed-off eggplants - very zen!
Margie (roloro1557)
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> ...but the next night he dreamed that hundreds of eggplants
> came to him demanding his life, and they were REALLY PISSED!
Bill,
Your extension can be included in the zen literature.
Regards,
Anthony
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Date: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008, 10:45 PM
There was a monk who specialized in the buddhist precepts, and had
kept to them all his lif
: [Zen] Causality, perception, reality, consciousness, etc, etc
There was a monk who specialized in the buddhist precepts, and had
kept to them all his life. Once when he was walking at night, he
stepped on something. It made a squishing sound, and he thought he had
stepped on an egg-bearing frog. This
There was a monk who specialized in the buddhist precepts, and had
kept to them all his life. Once when he was walking at night, he
stepped on something. It made a squishing sound, and he thought he had
stepped on an egg-bearing frog. This caused him no end of alarm and
regret, in view of the prece
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