Re: [Zen] Pretense

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Perew
of Zen/Chan. Thank you. -- Mark Perew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To the world you may be just one person, but to one person you may be the world. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mark Perew
Bill - What is a moment? If I am hungry and I prepare something to eat, then where does just this stop being I am hungry and start being I am preparing food? Does prepare food take me out of the immediate moment, since it looks toward something else later? Or, is it as simple as saying Right

Re: [Zen] Question?

2008-11-03 Thread Mark Perew
Hell if I know! On 11/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, which is a better response to your questions? This post or a slap in the face?...Bill!

Re: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation?

2010-10-22 Thread Mark Perew
Chris - My first wife slept through much of the labor of our first child. This was without medication. The birth of our third child was the most difficult, painful, and traumatic. Nature does not subscribe to human rules of damage, loss, and harm. Nature just is. Nature doesn't scream, it

Re: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation?

2010-10-22 Thread Mark Perew
Mayka - Over the 4 billion or so years that planet Earth has existed, life has come and gone many times. This infinitesimal grain of sand we call home has been heated by volcanoes and dust, frozen over, slammed into by even smaller rocks, and poisoned with oxygen. Each event was traumatic, and

Re: [Zen] Positive neural changes in the brain due to meditation?

2010-10-22 Thread Mark Perew
Chris - I think you've rebutted your own statement. The separation from Nature is illusion, maya, etc. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:52 PM, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.netwrote: Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Oct 22, 2010, at 16:40, Mark Perew mpe...@gmail.com

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-24 Thread Mark Perew
Sorry, Anthony. I'm a denier. My zen is completely non-metaphysical. On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: ED, The spirit world is everywhere. Edgar calls it global spirit or Tao. Both you and I live there, before we become Buddha. You can deny its

Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Perew
Mayka - I am seeking how to practice zen, both on the cushion and off. The question of What does the mindful life look like? is the one for which I seek answers. I do sit with a TNH sangha, led by an OI member. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.comwrote:

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Perew
Anthony - The best reply would come from Mr. Spock: Nothing unreal exists. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Mark, Good. Do you think everything is nothing but physical? Are you a materialist? Anthony --- On *Mon, 25/10/10, Mark Perew mpe

Re: [Zen] Zen, Self, I, Me and Mine

2010-10-25 Thread Mark Perew
Does it matter? On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Mark, --- On *Tue, 26/10/10, Mark Perew mpe...@gmail.com* wrote: Anthony - The best reply would come from Mr. Spock: Nothing unreal exists. That is as much as to say, I have cereals

Re: [Zen] Re: Mindfulness pt 2

2011-01-03 Thread Mark Perew
For me, the bell timer is an indicator as to how much I was in to my mediation. When the bell sounds and I am surprised that it is sounding so soon, then that is a clue that I was present for my breathing and not for other things. Yes, there are times when my mind wanders off to the bell,

Re: [Zen] Meditation Problem

2011-01-20 Thread Mark Perew
Hello. Yes, this is a common sticking point. It certainly happens to me, and I've heard many others describe similar things. When thoughts arise in my sitting, I acknowledge them, and then gently return to my breathing. I've learned that the expectation of a sitting period without thoughts

Re: [Zen] Meditation Problem

2011-01-20 Thread Mark Perew
Anil - It seems natural to push away thoughts, and to have a meta-thought, Oh, darn. I'm thinking again. I wish that thought would go away. Instead of doing that, one teacher has encouraged me to welcome all thoughts. He has suggested that making an effort to push the thoughts away is

Re: [Zen] Meditation Problem

2011-01-20 Thread Mark Perew
Counting breaths is just a tool. If the tool doesn't work, then get a tool that does work. You might try just following your breath as it enters and leaves your body. I recall reading somewhere that in some traditions there is a teaching to focus on the nostrils where the breath first enters,

Re: [Zen] Re: Meditation Problem

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Perew
Anil - You and I are both fans of plain speaking. I appreciate your honesty about that, and calling out the non-clarity in some of the other messages. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Anil Sahal a.sa...@sheffield.ac.ukwrote: Hi, pleased to meet you. Likewise. IMO, rather than sitting

Re: [Zen] Re: Meditation Problem

2011-01-21 Thread Mark Perew
It sounds like the dying man feared death. (Or was suffering because of an attachment to living.) I prefer Mark Twain's perspective: I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. On Fri, Jan

Re: [Zen] God..mother or father?

2011-05-13 Thread Mark Perew
Sometimes, though, the Buddha has to leave the palace. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.comwrote: *Mel, Chris, Anthony* ** *TNH advices not to leave our own spiritual tradition behind as that is part of us and our ancestors. And if we have problems with

Re: [Zen] God..mother or father?

2011-05-13 Thread Mark Perew
Mayka - In the classic Buddha myth, young Prince Siddartha was unaware of reality until he ventured out of the palace in which was raised. Not until he abandoned that palace could he begin the journey of understanding the nature of life. I respectfully submit that there are occasions when,

Re: [Zen] Need help with the fear of death

2011-07-21 Thread Mark Perew
DP Living in the moment, mindfulness, is very different from living for the moment. Can you spot the difference? How might those be different in your practice? On Jul 21, 2011 1:16 PM, D P wookielife...@yahoo.ca wrote: I fear nothingness because I associate it with the western view of

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen elements?

2011-07-26 Thread Mark Perew
Sophistry On Jul 26, 2011 10:19 AM, billsmart billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: There is presently only one official 'teacher' on the Zen Forum that I know of: JMJM. He does preach some, but always ends his sermons with 'I have said not a word' and therefore remains blameless. ...Bill! --- In

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen elements?

2011-07-26 Thread Mark Perew
persuasive speech which targeted emotions. He won, so now we worship logic. (But still find that rhetoric is just as powerful today as it was then.) ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Perew mperew@... wrote: Sophistry On Jul 26, 2011 10:19 AM, billsmart BillSmart@... wrote

Re: [Zen] Re:Comfort

2011-08-15 Thread Mark Perew
Ritual is a crutch to help the wounded walker. It is but one of many aids. For those who need that particular aid, there comes a time when it must be cast aside. The Raft Parable teaches us that the the things that help us get from one point to another will become hindrances in another context.

Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II

2011-10-15 Thread Mark Perew
The fun is unimportant. I suggest letting it go. On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Bill/JMJM, I think this is the major difference between zen and other meditation techniques. The former always discounts what you see or imagine during the sessions

Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II

2011-10-16 Thread Mark Perew
Bill - That's the danger of fun is it not? When aren't having it, we think we're suffering. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: Mark, Sufferring is also unimportant, and I also suggest letting it go...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Perew

Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II

2011-10-16 Thread Mark Perew
it all go when you're finished having fun or finished sufferring. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Perew mperew@... wrote: Bill - That's the danger of fun is it not? When aren't having it, we think we're suffering. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Bill

Re: [Zen] Zen and Buddhism

2011-10-22 Thread Mark Perew
Zen and now? On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote: What are the similarities and differences between: o Zen and Theravada Buddhism? o Zen and Mahayana Buddhism? o Zen and Tantric Buddhism, Dzogchen or Mahamudra? o Zen and zen? o Zen and Chan? --- In

Re: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism

2011-11-04 Thread Mark Perew
To extend the analogy, a user interacting with the GUI may think they are interacting with the operating system, but that would be incorrect. They are, instead, interacting with just another program whose duty it is to protect the operating system from the user and the user from the operating

Re: [Zen] Practice of No Mind IV

2011-12-21 Thread Mark Perew
Perhaps my meat brain is working too hard here, but I can't reconcile these two statements: * Without being affected by any form - external and internal, in our mind, in our body, in our spirit, etc. * This awareness is present, full, energized, and in sync with the life force and wisdom of the