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"Mayka" <> I feel a lot of more release now by practicing alone and writing to this group.> That's just your ego misleading you. In person may have many drawbacks, but it is a lot better than an imaginary relationship with non-existant persons on the internet. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hi Chris again, It feels good to post and having a feedback from posting. Do you think that apart from the practice what we most need is having the warm of human contact?. What do we do with our practice without the practice of natural spontaneous human warm coming from the heart?. I´m still in Spain at present dealing with multi issues in connection with health, financial, sentimental...Life is pretty intense right now. And yet I don´t feel like it to go to any of that meditation centers where the talk of the last "enlightenment arrivals" giving endless instructions to endless arrivals beginers seem to be longer than the silence of sitting down... I feel a lot of more release now by practicing alone and writing to this group. There is something about the different participants in these group that helps me to connect better with other human fellows and the practice without practice. I´m happy to hear that you are going back to the zen center. I´d like to hear your experience over there. I haven´t been in my Edinburgh sangha for very long, though there are some members who keep occassionaly in touch trough email. I´m writing to you with laptop from my fiance. I´m sitting by the Mediterranean sea. Everything is calm. There is a little breeze and a pale sunshine reflecting over the waves. I send you and all of you this moment so fresh and so invigorating. With open heart your hearts in my heart Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "cid830" wrote: > > Mayka, > > I appreciate your understanding on this. I agree, I have experienced > the ability to remain detatched from other's perspectives, no matter > how negative. The longer I have stayed away from my practice, the > more I found that "little" things can bother me. I am happy to say I > have resumed my practice and it is going well. I have started re- > visiting the temple I sent you info on in the past. > > Thank you for your participation. > > Chris > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Mayka" wrote: > > > Hi chris!, > > > > If you work in a team or for a company, if you go to > collegeYou´ll > > always find that there is somebody, someone, a percentage you don´t > > get on or you disagree or you don´t like it... > > This may happens even in the best families there is always someone > > willing to create annoyance to everyone else. Dialogue not always > work > > with some people in that case the best is to let it go. The trick > > here is no to take it as personal. In the internet this is not as > > difficult to put into practice since you can spam or put in the > thrash > > mail you don´t wish to receive it. But in real life that is a > little > > more difficult since we can´t throw to the bin our boss. In that > case > > the practice becames handy. The practice of not taking anything as > > personal. The continuos concentration of focusing the mind in the > > present moment helped with the awareness of the in an out breathing > > can slowly slowly have some surprising results. > > > > Not that I have achieved much control over myself emotions yet but > i´m > > in the way. Each sceneary that appears in daily basis becames the > > playing ground . I don´t get attached to the result of this > practice. > > what i mean is that if i loose control over my emotions i > acknowledge > > it and keep trying again and again and again. Not to take > anything as > > personal and complete disattachment to the results of the practice > is > > a joyful way of practicing. > > > > Thanks for writing and your very kind words. > > Mayka > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Mayka, I appreciate your understanding on this. I agree, I have experienced the ability to remain detatched from other's perspectives, no matter how negative. The longer I have stayed away from my practice, the more I found that "little" things can bother me. I am happy to say I have resumed my practice and it is going well. I have started re- visiting the temple I sent you info on in the past. Thank you for your participation. Chris --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Mayka" wrote: > Hi chris!, > > If you work in a team or for a company, if you go to collegeYou´ll > always find that there is somebody, someone, a percentage you don´t > get on or you disagree or you don´t like it... > This may happens even in the best families there is always someone > willing to create annoyance to everyone else. Dialogue not always work > with some people in that case the best is to let it go. The trick > here is no to take it as personal. In the internet this is not as > difficult to put into practice since you can spam or put in the thrash > mail you don´t wish to receive it. But in real life that is a little > more difficult since we can´t throw to the bin our boss. In that case > the practice becames handy. The practice of not taking anything as > personal. The continuos concentration of focusing the mind in the > present moment helped with the awareness of the in an out breathing > can slowly slowly have some surprising results. > > Not that I have achieved much control over myself emotions yet but i´m > in the way. Each sceneary that appears in daily basis becames the > playing ground . I don´t get attached to the result of this practice. > what i mean is that if i loose control over my emotions i acknowledge > it and keep trying again and again and again. Not to take anything as > personal and complete disattachment to the results of the practice is > a joyful way of practicing. > > Thanks for writing and your very kind words. > Mayka > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You are welcome... Take care of yourself if you can Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "fitness4u2163" wrote: > > "Mayka" <> I see no wrong of posting what is in your mind, what are > you feeling or what is really in you...> > > THANKS! > > >Words carry in them energy positive or negative. Only one word can > > heal or destroy.> > > HO > > HO HO > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "cid830" wrote: > > > My problem here (along with my lack of practice!) has been a lack of > respect. 98% of us can have discourse, agreeing or dis-agreeing in > what each of us may post. But there is always that 2% that show a > lack of respect for others. It is an insight into one's nature, as > well as a product of one's upbringing. If one has not learned to > deal with others respectfully by the age of adulthood, they probably > never will. > > Chris Hi chris!, If you work in a team or for a company, if you go to collegeYou´ll always find that there is somebody, someone, a percentage you don´t get on or you disagree or you don´t like it... This may happens even in the best families there is always someone willing to create annoyance to everyone else. Dialogue not always work with some people in that case the best is to let it go. The trick here is no to take it as personal. In the internet this is not as difficult to put into practice since you can spam or put in the thrash mail you don´t wish to receive it. But in real life that is a little more difficult since we can´t throw to the bin our boss. In that case the practice becames handy. The practice of not taking anything as personal. The continuos concentration of focusing the mind in the present moment helped with the awareness of the in an out breathing can slowly slowly have some surprising results. Not that I have achieved much control over myself emotions yet but i´m in the way. Each sceneary that appears in daily basis becames the playing ground . I don´t get attached to the result of this practice. what i mean is that if i loose control over my emotions i acknowledge it and keep trying again and again and again. Not to take anything as personal and complete disattachment to the results of the practice is a joyful way of practicing. Thanks for writing and your very kind words. Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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OK, I will fuck it up myself. Â BTW, Gaylord is the name of a famous Indian restaurant here, so I cannot violate the patent law. Â Anthony --- On Thu, 22/1/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 22 January, 2009, 9:58 AM Anthony Wu I think that is pretty gay. You might as well change your name to Gaylord or Gaywad. The idea that you need some fucking cocksucker to lead you anywhere is fucking lame-O. Get a grip on your life and fuck it up yourself and then work your way out of your mistakes by learning from those that God puts in your path. If that means going to a Buddhist Temple or a mental asylum, so be it. But even if some smirking asshole sensei gives you a certificate that says you are enlightened, you can wipe your ass with that unless you feel it and earned it and do something with it. Maybe that means that you become a teacher, or maybe that means that you get a fucking job and enjoy whatever you are doing and put your guts and your soul into that. Do something meaningful with your life, like helping others, supporting your family members, charities, etc. Be a person who gives, not some lamedick gimp asking for charity so that you can sit on your ass and wonder what life means. Good luck to you and man-up, bitch. New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/
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Edgar Owen <> May I ask which groups you run that total 25,000 members? Just curious, certainly not this one. > > OK, I wanted to keep things clean, but here is the list of the groups that I run with 25K or more each. I post this list at the risk of getting the groups shut down, since you cannot post links from the Yahoo adult list into the Yahoo non-adult list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Charities_For_Orphan_Kids http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Sluts_with_Hairy_Gunts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Monks_Who_Pose_Nude_for_Money http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ugly_Zen_Chicks_Who_Are_Really_Easy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Temples_With_Brothels_and_Casinos http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Monkess_Threesomes Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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"Mayka" <> I see no wrong of posting what is in your mind, what are you feeling or what is really in you...> THANKS! >Words carry in them energy positive or negative. Only one word can > heal or destroy.> HO HO HO Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Mayka, Very good post! Especially the part about being defensive and how we can judge our reactions as a medium of our practice. The less we practice, the more subject we are to our emotions! My problem here (along with my lack of practice!) has been a lack of respect. 98% of us can have discourse, agreeing or dis-agreeing in what each of us may post. But there is always that 2% that show a lack of respect for others. It is an insight into one's nature, as well as a product of one's upbringing. If one has not learned to deal with others respectfully by the age of adulthood, they probably never will. Thank you Mayka, Bill!, Mike, Anthony, Jody, JMJM and Edgar, (among others) who have shown your respect in the face of disagreement and ignorance. And to the 2%, I hope you at least find peace within. RESPECTFULLY, Chris --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Mayka" wrote: > > Al, > > I see no wrong of posting what is in your mind, what are you feeling > or what is really in you...In fact one of the things I like the most > on this website is precisely that we talk about what is really in us. > Don´t worry about it. However, it´s perhaps important to be aware of > the effect words can have in the mind of the readers. Let´s not > forget that it is not the same to be face to face than to be in a > website where we don´t have a face to face direct contact and > therefore words are opened to multi interpretation depending upon our > own mental state at the time of receiving them. > > Words carry in them energy positive or negative. Only one word can > heal or destroy. They have an equal impact from the one who express > them as to the whole universe. Our mental state determine our way of > expressing oneselves. Before any word comes out of our lips, there > is a thought. Before a thought takes form there is a mental state. A > sensation, an emotion, a mental formation... > > As an strongly emotional person I am, the internet is often a > challenge to tame myself emotions. I used to be very defensive, still > am, when somebody said something I didn´t like it. But slowly slowly > I take the internet and groups as a medium of practice. It doesn´t > mean that everyone else has to do the same. It helps me to > acknowledge in a deeper way what is in me. > > Your choose to shot straight away what are you thinking or feeling. > There is nothing wrong with that either if you feel the need of doing > so. For instance I can see through your question of asking me if I > was menstruating that you were annoyed with post and also that you > genuinely was wondering if my post was motivated by the mental state > produced by the crazy hormonal disturbancies, we women have once a > month. Nothing wrong to ask that for as long as your thoughts were > genuine at the time of the question and not deffensive. > > Am I making any sense to you or am I losing myself in too many words?. > Whatever it is here it goes carrying good intentions and gratitude for > your website. > > Have a good day > Mayka > > > > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "fitness4u2163" wrote: > > > > "fitness4u2163" <> Are you having your period?> > > > > Sorry for being so crude. I should not post what I am thinking. > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Present From: fitness4u2163 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:13:08 PM Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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Al, I see no wrong of posting what is in your mind, what are you feeling or what is really in you...In fact one of the things I like the most on this website is precisely that we talk about what is really in us. Don´t worry about it. However, it´s perhaps important to be aware of the effect words can have in the mind of the readers. Let´s not forget that it is not the same to be face to face than to be in a website where we don´t have a face to face direct contact and therefore words are opened to multi interpretation depending upon our own mental state at the time of receiving them. Words carry in them energy positive or negative. Only one word can heal or destroy. They have an equal impact from the one who express them as to the whole universe. Our mental state determine our way of expressing oneselves. Before any word comes out of our lips, there is a thought. Before a thought takes form there is a mental state. A sensation, an emotion, a mental formation... As an strongly emotional person I am, the internet is often a challenge to tame myself emotions. I used to be very defensive, still am, when somebody said something I didn´t like it. But slowly slowly I take the internet and groups as a medium of practice. It doesn´t mean that everyone else has to do the same. It helps me to acknowledge in a deeper way what is in me. Your choose to shot straight away what are you thinking or feeling. There is nothing wrong with that either if you feel the need of doing so. For instance I can see through your question of asking me if I was menstruating that you were annoyed with post and also that you genuinely was wondering if my post was motivated by the mental state produced by the crazy hormonal disturbancies, we women have once a month. Nothing wrong to ask that for as long as your thoughts were genuine at the time of the question and not deffensive. Am I making any sense to you or am I losing myself in too many words?. Whatever it is here it goes carrying good intentions and gratitude for your website. Have a good day Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "fitness4u2163" wrote: > > "fitness4u2163" <> Are you having your period?> > > Sorry for being so crude. I should not post what I am thinking. > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Al, I hope you run this zen group well. It is getting popular. Sometimes a little venomous remarks help, sometimes we need less of it. As regards my technique, there are of course a lot of defects. That is why I am thinking about joining a Tantric group with some sex rituals, or a cult leader who claims to be enlightened on earth. What do you think? Anal-retentive folk --- On Mon, 19/1/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 1:47 PM Anthony Wu > A search only gave me 446 members in our group. Where are those 25,000? > I am the moderator of 50 groups. I was invited by Yahoo to a group called Powerusers which Yahoo runs. It is for people that moderate groups totalling 25K or more. It is not like Yahoo sent me a gift certificate. They just send "powerusers" emails with suggestions about running the groups. I am very surprised at how anal-retentive you folks are. You really need to sit your ass on the pillow and clench tighter, as there is obviously a defect in your technique. __ Search, browse and book your hotels and flights through Yahoo! Travel. http://sg.travel.yahoo.com
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I am here! I try to avoid visiting these groups when I am menstruating, as it can make things messy, especially when I type after adjusting my pad. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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"fitness4u2163" <> Are you having your period?> Sorry for being so crude. I should not post what I am thinking. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Edgar Owen > Well I do know that 8 doesn't equal 25,000. Other than that I know nothing for sure! :-) > Trust me on the rest. Keep clenching. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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"Mayka" <> This is not way to talk to people particularly if you are the moderator of spiritual or religious group from whatever tradition that group is. This way of doing is harmful to yourself and everyone else. > Are you having your period? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hi Fitness, Well I do know that 8 doesn't equal 25,000. Other than that I know nothing for sure! :-) Best, Edgar On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:42 AM, fitness4u2163 wrote: Edgar Owen <> May I ask which groups you run that total 25,000 members? Just curious, certainly not this one. ironically not the poweruser group you link to> The poweruser group is run by Yahoo, and it is by invitation of Yahoo. Only Yahoo posts messages there. Apparently there is a lot that you don't know about a lot of things. HO HO HO
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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "fitness4u2163" wrote: > > > I am very surprised at how anal-retentive you folks are. You really > need to sit your ass on the pillow and clench tighter, as there is > obviously a defect in your technique. Al, This is not way to talk to people particularly if you are the moderator of spiritual or religious group from whatever tradition that group is. This way of doing is harmful to yourself and everyone else. This persistent way of acting destroys all the freedom and goodness of the group. I don't understand why you´re doing this. On one hand this group is one of the fewers internet groups in the zen category which people have the freedom to express themselves as they are. Instead of destroying or attacking the good will of the people here you should be proud of moderating a group of such freedom of speech. In this group There is no the opportunist pretentious arrogant westerner Zen Teacher pretending an enlightenment with borrowed dharma words from original and genuine Teachers. Making pass the insight and experience of genuine practicioners as their own... and so on and so on. But we are here in this marvellous group, as Chris pointed out once, talking to each others, learning, sharing experiences, communicating, keeping the beauty, truth and goodness in all of us alive...It is not this a real miracle by itself? We are people from all backgrounds and spiritual traditions who gather together to warm up our own solitude. With all the many fakes going around this group is a real treasure because we are what we are free from pretention. None of us pretends to be an enlightened person. None of us knows more than anyone else in the group. Each of us have something to give and something to learn from each of the members. Don´t destroy your own work here. Instead of that be good and start to fix the mail problem Bill is being having for very long. Thank you all Mayka Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I am still alive! Â Lucy --- On Fri, 1/16/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:13 AM If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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I am still alive! Â Lucy --- On Fri, 1/16/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:13 AM If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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Anthony Wu > A search only gave me 446 members in our group. Where are those 25,000? > I am the moderator of 50 groups. I was invited by Yahoo to a group called Powerusers which Yahoo runs. It is for people that moderate groups totalling 25K or more. It is not like Yahoo sent me a gift certificate. They just send "powerusers" emails with suggestions about running the groups. I am very surprised at how anal-retentive you folks are. You really need to sit your ass on the pillow and clench tighter, as there is obviously a defect in your technique. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Edgar Owen <> May I ask which groups you run that total 25,000 members? Just curious, certainly not this one. ironically not the poweruser group you link to> The poweruser group is run by Yahoo, and it is by invitation of Yahoo. Only Yahoo posts messages there. Apparently there is a lot that you don't know about a lot of things. HO HO HO Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Yes still alive and mostly kicking here. Please keep me active with this group. --- On Fri, 1/16/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 1:13 AM If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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May I ask which groups you run that total 25,000 members? Just curious, certainly not this one. And ironically not the poweruser group you link to which had only 8 posts in the entire 2008, far less than this dinky little group! Those powerusers suddenly don't seem so powerful! :-) Edgar On Jan 16, 2009, at 7:09 PM, fitness4u2163 wrote: Edgar Owen There is no such Yahoo requirement. I run several groups and have never done this 'roll call'. > > Are you a member of the Yahoo Power User group? This is for moderators who have groups that total more than 25,000 members. We answer to a higher standard. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/groupspoweruser/
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Al, A search only gave me 446 members in our group. Where are those 25,000? Anthony --- On Sat, 17/1/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: Re: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 17 January, 2009, 8:09 AM Edgar Owen There is no such Yahoo requirement. I run several groups and have never done this 'roll call'. > > Are you a member of the Yahoo Power User group? This is for moderators who have groups that total more than 25,000 members. We answer to a higher standard. http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ groupspoweruser/ Importing contacts has never been easier..Bring your friends over to Yahoo! Mail today! http://www.trueswitch.com/yahoo-sg
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Edgar Owen There is no such Yahoo requirement. I run several groups and have never done this 'roll call'. > > Are you a member of the Yahoo Power User group? This is for moderators who have groups that total more than 25,000 members. We answer to a higher standard. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/groupspoweruser/ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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as to dead or alive, not sure, but sitting regardless From: fitness4u2163 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:13:08 AM Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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I'm still alive, JODY Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Alive! Anthony --- On Fri, 16/1/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 16 January, 2009, 2:13 PM If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members. New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/
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There is no "I" and there is no "here". On 1/16/09, klights88 wrote: > I am here, whether I am alive may be debatable > > > > > > From: fitness4u2163 > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:13:08 AM > Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL > > > If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the > Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the > membership and we have to delete the deceased members. > > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Still alive. Fred Theilig fmthei...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 1/16/09, fitness4u2163 wrote: From: fitness4u2163 Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 1:13 AM If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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this is a phish. There is no such Yahoo requirement. I run several groups and have never done this 'roll call'. Edgar On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:13 AM, fitness4u2163 wrote: If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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I am here, whether I am alive may be debatable From: fitness4u2163 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:13:08 AM Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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Im live and kicking Stanimir From: fitness4u2163 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 16 January, 2009 8:13:08 Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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Still alive. - Original Message - From: fitness4u2163 To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:13 AM Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members.
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Present...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fitness4u2163 Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:13 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] ROLL CALL If you are still alive, please reply to this post. Pursuant to the Yahoo terms of service it is time for spring cleaning of the membership and we have to delete the deceased members. __ NOD32 3770 (20090116) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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