After careful consideration, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
I know what you mean, but technically Khrushchev had nothing to do with the
embargo of Cuba, which was put into place by the U.S. I think you mean the
emplacement of missiles there. But what very few USAmericans realize, and what
you
By that time, Kruschev had changed his name to Khrushchev ;-) and Khrushchev was
party chairman. This was after Stalin's death. Incidentally, while he grew up in
the eastern, more russianized half of Ukraine, he was actually born in Kursk,
Russia. I believe the meeting where ETB first met him was
Stephen Beecroft wrote:
-Marc-
Trivia time, boys and girls: anybody know what the original US
^^^
action was that prompted the emplacement of missiles in Cuba?
^^
[...] NATO had put into place batteries of missiles in NE
I think you have a Pollyanna view of Prophets and their role. In 1959,
at
President McKay's request, [then] Elder Ezra Taft Benson welcomed and
shook
hands with the butcher of the Ukraine, Nikita Kruschev. More recently,
at
the Polynesian Cultural Center in Hawaii, Church leaders met with some
The Lord's priesthood has a mission to perform for liberty-loving people
everywhere. We cannot, any more than Jonah of old, run away from our
calling. (The Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 620; italics added.)
I'm not running away. I'm just not going to get involved with politics. I
don't
After careful consideration, Steven Montgomery wrote:
At 07:46 AM 10/15/2002, Paul wrote:
Well, you know me--I'm NOT into conspiracy theories at all. Wasn't it so
that Elder Benson was all alone in his campaign or which of the other
apostles stood by his side and declared the same message? You
After careful consideration, Paul Osborne wrote:
Generalizations were made and we are reminded not to mix ourselves with
Babylon. I feel the prophets should protect the saints and if they are
inclined to muster a rebellion with the government--fine. Just count me out.
Who said anything about
After careful consideration, Paul Osborne wrote:
Nope. And neither was the President of the United States. Prophets don't
shake hands with murderers. Let that be a SIGN to you.
This is not any doctrine I've ever heard. Did King Ahaz ever shake the
hand of Elijah? I'll bet he did. Did
After careful consideration, Paul Osborne wrote:
People are going to interpret the fight for freedom differently and how
it might apply to their own lives. Irregardless, I'm staying out of the
fight. And God can do with me according to his judgment, and I know that
his judgements are just and
At 12:58 10/16/2002 -0500, Paul O wrote:
I would not knowingly shake hands with a murderous unrepentant Gadianton,
and that is *my* doctrine. Would you shake hands with a Gadianton robber?
I'm very very curious to know the answer to this one. hee hee hee ;-))
Shaking of hands has some
We're pretty sure Abraham shook hands (or the cultural equivalent) with the
Pharaoh of his day. In fact, I even believe ETB, as Secretary of Agriculture,
shook hands with Khrushchev while showing him the bounty that was possible (on
mid-Western farms) under the democratic system of agriculture.
After careful consideration, Stephen Beecroft wrote:
Wow. NATO, led by the US, no doubt, decided out of a clear blue sky to
station some missiles in Turkey. No history to that action, of course.
Just a sudden, impulsive decision by those imperialistic westerners
against the poor, oppressed Soviet
-John-
I just love your sarcasm, Stephen. In this case I'm sure we would
agree. --JWR
Actually, I don't love my own sarcasm. What comes out of my fingertips
sounding silly and a bit over-the-top to me ends up seeming much more
acidic and unpleasant than intended. You'd think I would learn
The placement of U.S. Missiles in Turkey. At least that's the pat answer
the leftists always give. This answer however, is similar to the one given
for taking over the countries of eastern Europe--that they needed buffer
states to prevent against western aggression and hides the fact that the
After careful consideration, Stephen Beecroft wrote:
Actually, I don't love my own sarcasm. What comes out of my fingertips
sounding silly and a bit over-the-top to me ends up seeming much more
acidic and unpleasant than intended. You'd think I would learn to avoid
sarcasm, since I can't seem to
At 09:02 PM 10/16/2002, you wrote:
After careful consideration, Stephen Beecroft wrote:
Actually, I don't love my own sarcasm. What comes out of my fingertips
sounding silly and a bit over-the-top to me ends up seeming much more
acidic and unpleasant than intended. You'd think I would learn to
I'm sorry that I'm being offensive, but sometimes it just cannot be
avoided. Ignorant people are getting us into a war that is not in the
national interest.
I beg to differ. It certainly appears that there are quite a few folks
that are interested in seeing this war carried out. Even in
I'm sorry that I'm being offensive, but sometimes it just cannot be
avoided. Ignorant people are getting us into a war that is not in the
national interest.
I ain't igerint! You stop tellin that right now!
Jon
/
At 07:46 AM 10/15/2002, Paul wrote:
Well, you know me--I'm NOT into conspiracy theories at all. Wasn't it so
that Elder Benson was all alone in his campaign or which of the other
apostles stood by his side and declared the same message? You know what I
mean--two or three witnesses. Was his
1. Secret Combinations
Oct. 1986: From the Book of Mormon we see the evils of secret
combinations portrayed in graphic and chilling reality . . . . We
should
constantly ask ourselves, 'Why did the Lord inspire Mormon (or Moroni or
Alma) to include that in his record? What lesson can I learn
April 1989: Secret combinations . . . are built up to get power,
gain,
and glory of the world. (See Hel. 7:5; Ether 8:9, 16, 22-23; Moses
5:31.)
.
. . Secret combinations brought down both the Jaredite and the Nephite
civilizations and [have] been and will yet be the cause of the fall of
Steve wrote:
Below are six statements from President Ezra Taft Benson regarding a
world-
wide conspiracy that is increasing its evil influence and control over
America and the entire world. These warnings have come to us from God
through His living prophet. All six statements came after his
destruction of the people, but notice how he singled out the secret
combinations, just as the Church today could point out many threats to
peace, prosperity, and the spread of God's work, but it has singled out
as
the greatest threat the Godless conspiracy. There is no conspiracy
theory
in
Paul are you a human being or a mule?? just kidding don`t get offended{:
Sandra
- Original Message -
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] The Rulers of Darkness
Steve wrote:
Below are six statements
At 06:32 PM 10/15/2002, you wrote:
Jan. 1988: The situation in the world will continue to degenerate
unless
we read and heed the words of God and quit building up and upholding
secret
combinations, which the Book of Mormon tells us proved the downfall of
ancient civilizations. (The Book of
At 06:36 PM 10/15/2002, you wrote:
Oct. 1988: Wickedness is rapidly expanding in every segment of our
society. (See DC 1:14- 16; 84:49-53.) It is more highly organized, more
cleverly disguised, and more powerfully promoted than ever before.
Secret
combinations lusting for power, gain, and
At 06:53 PM 10/15/2002, you wrote:
destruction of the people, but notice how he singled out the secret
combinations, just as the Church today could point out many threats to
peace, prosperity, and the spread of God's work, but it has singled out
as
the greatest threat the Godless
Heck, Pres. Hinckley has even shaken hands with gasp Kofi Anan!
Paul Osborne wrote:
Jan. 1988: The situation in the world will continue to degenerate
unless
we read and heed the words of God and quit building up and upholding
secret
combinations, which the Book of Mormon tells us proved
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