Gary Smith:
Are you saying I'm not a list moderator? Or just that I'm
temporarily out of moderation? Why, them's fighting words
where I come from. That's it! Salamis at 10 paces!
The only difference between JWR and me, is I'm not
benevolent
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Oops. Sorry, Gary. I forgot t
Except for one problem. I was taunted about this by coworkers every day
for about five years.
Seems very non-Christian to me.
Stacy.
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No. It is known as "survival of the FIT" - a very big difference. It is not
just the fittest that survive. It is those who meet or exceed the minimum
requirements. The fittest against one threat may not be able to survive the
next threat, whereas the barely able to survive the first threat may b
Let's face it - there are bigots of all kinds in the world. As you point
out, "mental" illness is often a physical deficiency that affects the
mechanisms of the brain.
My mother was "mentally" ill most of her life, and we suffered greatly for
it. Near her death (heart failure resulting from an a
There should definitely be concern, and I don't think enough is being
done. I think part of the problem comes because not enough steps are being
taken to find out when family domination becomes unrighteous.
Stacy.
At 03:57 PM 11/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Stacy:
Add to this mess people whos
Yes, my mother got me one of those books thinking I would like it. I found
it less than amusing. I'm passing this review on to my sister. I don't
think she believes in it, as it turns out, a real surprise to me.
Stacy.
/
My only point: Is there any room for camouflage in war? It would seem
more natural.
Stacy.
At 05:03 PM 11/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
The Taliban/Al Qaeda mark themselves in a different manner, because their
customs are different. They show their beliefs through covering their
women and keeping
Gary:
Are you saying I'm not a list moderator? Or just that I'm temporarily out
of moderation? Why, them's fighting words where I come from. That's it!
Salamis at 10 paces!
Dan:
http://www.lostandfoundcomic.com/d/20021115.html
So which are you Gary, Max (the big one), or Peanut? 8^D
The only
Here's an article by Gary North, a non-LDS Christian, who explains the
rapture and why it isn't Biblical. His articles are available at
lewrockwell.com and www.freebooks.com
Left Behind Culturally
by Gary North
I have just previewed a videotape of a new movie, which will be released
on February 2
Aaaa. So it starts (he said as he wiped his face off with a piece of
whole wheat bread). Since it is my list (and John isn't around to
regulate the living room), I not only get to start it, but I'll try and
finish it, also.
Gary pushes a button, and suddenly a cream pie drops from the ceiling
The Taliban/Al Qaeda mark themselves in a different manner, because their
customs are different. They show their beliefs through covering their
women and keeping them locked up. That is a mark one can see, just by
observing their lifestyles. They also wear the clothing (turban, etc) of
the larger I
Amazing! I've been laying on this couch for 4 days now, and have told my
body several times to get up, and it just won't do it. How have you
mastered such a great feat???
Actually, I don't think it is whacko. I believe the mind has great power.
Science has already shown that the person with a good
It depends on the drug. Some are more psychotropic than others. Most of
today's meds just normalize the serotonin and other natural drugs in the
brain, so they probably don't affect the feeling of the Spirit much. But
those drugs that depress all emotion could affect one's ability, I
suppose.
K'aya
And it isn't as fun for the mentally ill today. I mean, you don't get to
have those electric shocks from the mid 1900s. Or, even better, you
aren't considered witches in early Salem and burned at the stake. And, of
course, there are those possessed souls in the Bible, who were allowed to
run wild i
Stacy:
Well, how many of them are diagnosed with true ADHD?
Dan:
I think that is part of the issue. Without going to the expense of sending
every missionary so diagnosed to a recognized specialist, the church needs
to accept the decision of the missionary's family doctor. But how was that
diagn
Stacy:
Add to this mess people whose families are controlling and a society that
does not care about that and you have a recipe for psychological
anxiety-producing events of such a magnitude we haven't seen in past ages.
Dan:
Right. So what can the church do to help individuals and families dea
Yee Ha! Gary's movin' to my neck of the woods!! OK, so he'll be a
couple hours south, but what the hey.
I don't know where you plan on relocating to, but north of Indy is
Noblesville and Zionsville--both very nice areas. Lebanon is farther
north west and is good for the small town feel close to
At 12:18 11/22/2002 -0700, Sir Goef wrote:
PS - Right now I am enjoying a vegetable lasagna for lunch (left over
from last night) - delicious!
--
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Till is afraid to think what the non-text portions of a vegetable lasagne
might look like
-Paul-
> PS. Hi Jack!
Tut, tut. We don't make such overt terroristic threats on this list.
A Pauled,
Stephen
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>>> Stacy, in all seriousness, asked:
>Suppose I never learn to like them? Can I still get into the
>celestial kingdom without liking them?
You'll like them. It's all a matter of faith - first you EAT, and then
you'll LIKE. :)
I didn't think liking (or eating) vegetables was a requirement for t
Suppose I never learn to like them? Can I still get into the celestial
kingdom without liking them?
Stacy.
At 11:35 AM 11/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>> Stacy wrote:
>I have endeavored to eat raw vegetables but find they really don't
>agree with me. What am I supposed to do if my family absolu
>>> After intense pondering Stacy favored us with:
>Frighten their enemies? If anything, it seems to me this would
>embolden their enemies. After all, if one wants to shout "Here
>I am," it would seem to me the logical thing would be to show
>themselves. If, on the other hand, one wants one's i
The butter may be the only thing that saves them from complete extinction
from my diet. I can't really stand the taste and they are hard going down
my esophagus.
Stacy.
At 12:51 PM 11/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I have endeavored to eat raw vegetables but find they really don't agree
>with me
Gary balls out Larry:
>Are you saying I'm not a list moderator? Or just that I'm temporarily
out
>of moderation? Why, them's fighting words where I come from. That's it!
>Salamis at 10 paces!
Yeah Larry, you're a very bad boy! Bend over for your spanking.
Paul O
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At 12:12 11/22/2002 -0600, Gary wrote:
Are you saying I'm not a list moderator? Or just that I'm temporarily out
of moderation? Why, them's fighting words where I come from. That's it!
Salamis at 10 paces!
Hah, right between the eyes with an overripe cherry tomato!
Till (Gary started it)
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>I have endeavored to eat raw vegetables but find they really don't agree
>with me. What am I supposed to do if my family absolutely insists I eat
>them? It is questions of this nature that trouble me.
Get a vegetable steamer and lightly steam them. Steamed vegetables are
totally yummy! Use a
>My first observation still stands. :Even though we feel we need some of
>these chemicals, does it limit personal revelation? I wasn't trying to
>ridicule, only trying to figure out whether or not these things would
limit
>our ability to get personal revelation.
Personal revelation without m
At 12:06 11/22/2002 -0600, Gyyy wrote:
Oh! I hope John gets Harpo's autograph while there! He was always my
favorite...
I hear that Chico Marcs is going to try and "curry" John's flavor
Make sure to check the sanity clause.
Till, who shot an elephant in his pajamas last night.
/
>>> Stacy wrote:
>I have endeavored to eat raw vegetables but find they really don't
>agree with me. What am I supposed to do if my family absolutely
>insists I eat them? It is questions of this nature that trouble me.
My wife is vegetarian (although she does eat fish - I think you are
still "t
Aw, and I was so hoping to catch a glimpse of him when he passed by
here...Does this mean I've missed Christmas again?
K'aya K'ama,
Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www
.geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html
"No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." -
J
Hey, no fair guessing how I do this! In reality, I have no true thoughts
of my own. I just reach out over the ether and read others' thoughts on
the topic. All I do well is reconfigure the thought into something
coherent. So, we can thank Val for that wonderful treatise on God not
commanding in al
Oh! I hope John gets Harpo's autograph while there! He was always my
favorite...
I hear that Chico Marcs is going to try and "curry" John's flavor
K'aya K'ama,
Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www
.geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html
"No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the p
Are you saying I'm not a list moderator? Or just that I'm temporarily out
of moderation? Why, them's fighting words where I come from. That's it!
Salamis at 10 paces!
The only difference between JWR and me, is I'm not benevolent
K'aya K'ama,
Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://ww
Frighten their enemies? If anything, it seems to me this would embolden
their enemies. After all, if one wants to shout "Here I am," it would seem
to me the logical thing would be to show themselves. If, on the other
hand, one wants one's identity to be hidden to confuse the enemy, the smart
I have endeavored to eat raw vegetables but find they really don't agree
with me. What am I supposed to do if my family absolutely insists I eat
them? It is questions of this nature that trouble me.
Stacy.
At 10:00 AM 11/21/2002 -0600, you wrote:
The Lord tells us he doesn't/shouldn't have t
My current plans are to move to Indianapolis. There just seems to be a
better job market there than in SLC, and Ramona's family is there. We'll
move there in early January. So if anyone lives in that area, you can
help me find work!
In the meantime, I'll be in SLC from 12-18 Dec, so if any of you
It's my understanding that it is the belief of those who believe in the
rapture theory do not believe the transformation will take place years
before Christ's coming but in fact will take place at Christ's coming. I
used to be a believer in this rapture theory myself, as I used to be a
Fundame
I would like to start by laying a foundation to support our view that this
is a modern invention, the Scottish concept of rapture, I mean. How do I
go about this? I believe it is only by doing this that I can lend any
credence to our views that a person not inclined to believe in modern-day
p
>>> Stacy favored us with:
>You know what never made sense to me? Why would the Lamanites
>mark themselves? I'm sure the Taliban never marked themselves up
>to be identified.
The Lamanites were ultimately marked anyway, by God (see 2 Nephi
5:20-21). Any additional marks they put upon themselve
My first observation still stands. :Even though we feel we need some of
these chemicals, does it limit personal revelation? I wasn't trying to
ridicule, only trying to figure out whether or not these things would limit
our ability to get personal revelation.
Stacy.
At 06:58 PM 11/21/2002 +00
I ran across that passage in Alma recently and marveled. I thought to
myself, "Why should this be, as the Taliban aren't known to have marked
themselves, right?" At any rate, I was somewhat awed and wondered about
the saying. I think I am storing up things to ponder in my heart.
Stacy.
At 1
Unfortunately, I cannot use today's type drugs. They cause severe
itching. I have had to resort to 20-year-old discovered medicines.
Stacy.
At 12:09 PM 11/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Gary:
The Church's official position is that we should use some caution with
medications for mental illness.
Well, how many of them are diagnosed with true ADHD?
Stacy.
At 03:01 PM 11/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Dan R Allen wrote:
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This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of
missionaries from North America are supp
You know what never made sense to me? Why would the Lamanites mark
themselves? I'm sure the Taliban never marked themselves up to be identified.
Stacy.
At 09:19 PM 11/21/2002 -0600, you wrote:
At 10:48 AM 11/21/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
Several JTF2 units have been rotated out of Afghanis
Okay, now I'm afraid what I have to say could be considered totally whacko,
revolutionary and grounds for me to be committed to a psychiatric
institution, but here goes. Within certain parameters, and even outside
them if you know what to do, I believe firmly that we can tell our bodies
to do
In this country we have freedom to literally go anywhere as far as the
government is concerned. I have to make that caveat. There are some
others who would still limit our freedom.
Stacy.
At 07:34 AM 11/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
At 20:45 11/21/2002 +, M Larry wrote:
No Redelfs Citings?
Add to this mess people whose families are controlling and a society that
does not care about that and you have a recipe for psychological
anxiety-producing events of such a magnitude we haven't seen in past ages.
Stacy.
At 06:42 AM 11/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>It was brought up in a larger d
>It was brought up in a larger discussion about the number of people in
the
>ward suffering from depression, and the church's change to being more
>supportive of people using drugs to overcome it.
Yep. I'm a big goof and shoot my mouth off all the time and tell people
about my problems to members
At 20:45 11/21/2002 +, M Larry wrote:
No Redelfs Citings?
That's a good thing, actually.
First, we wouldn't expect our fine upstanding BLT to be cited
by anyone as he cruises northward on his whirlwind international
tour. A citation would certainly be an indication of a lack of
moderation i
Jim,
I just read your post to my wife and she told me to tell you that you are
her hero and she has a crush on you now! She studies mental illness very
seriously.
What an excellent post!
Paul O
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:58:46 + Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>
> My regular diatribe o
Adaptation that can be properly characterized as "mimicry" in plants is
indicative of some mechanism or force that cannot be accounted for
within the current domain of evolutionary philosophy. My belief is that
the science of evolution cannot accomodate or explain the gradual
development of c
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