[ZION] The illegal we can do right now,the unconstitutional will take a little

>From Orwell to Kafka in one easy step, Globe columnist John MacLachlan Gray finds that satire can't keep up with reality in today's military-industrial complex. <

Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

Yes. At my home. Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: > Mark Gregson favored us with: > >4.) After next year's third installation, there will be some theatres that > >will hold near continuous showings of the "whole" movie (i.e. all three) > >as one movie. That will be about nine hours. Perhaps people

[ZION] Nigerian scam redux [OT]

Real bummer when the scammers can't tell humour from sincerity. Just because nobody knows that Sierra Leone's a wartorn place in South America, is that any reason to type email in CAPS, which EVERYONE KNOWS means you're SHOUTING and is considered RUDE!!! What IS the world coming to? http://www.sa

Re: [ZION] NC outage update

Jon Spencer wrote: > So now we're down to less than 100,000 customers without power. That's "fewer than" not "less than." They may have taken your power away, don't let them take your grammar away, too! > These last > few percent will take quite a bit of effort. Any utility worth its salt wil

[ZION] Freedom versus capitalism

I found this old article on my hard drive by Charlie Reese. It reminded me of a very important fact: I can be a believer in freedom without believing in an unrestricted capitalist system, and that too many people equate them. In reality, I look forward to Zion, where there will be great freedom to

Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having proble

> >will hold near continuous showings of the "whole" movie (i.e. all three) > >as one movie. That will be about nine hours. Perhaps people will be able > >to pay for portions of the show. > > Have they ever done this with the Star Wars saga? --JWR I've never heard of it thought it's poss

Re: [ZION] Prepare to Meet God

John W. Redelfs wrote: > Another truth that the wicked take to be hard. Some of the not so wicked too. And then there are some who take it as a wonderful opportunity to provide purpose and direction in their lives, yielding tremendous blessings in the here and now. Jon /

RE: [ZION] The Two Towers Anticipation

John Redelfs: Have they ever done this with the Star Wars saga? ___ The Saturday before Episode I came out, a local theater showed all three of the original Star Wars films (IV, V, and VI) on the same day, beginning at 1, 4, and 7 pm. One ticket (at the standard price) would get

RE: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

Tom Matkin favored us with: I was treated to a viewing of the first movie in this series last summer. We were at our annual family reunion at Fairmont in our timeshares and our family was the only one that thought to bring a DVD player and our copy of the movie. So all the LOR fanatics came to o

Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

Mark Gregson favored us with: 4.) After next year's third installation, there will be some theatres that will hold near continuous showings of the "whole" movie (i.e. all three) as one movie. That will be about nine hours. Perhaps people will be able to pay for portions of the show. Have the

Re: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin

Gary Smith favored us with: >If progression between kingdoms ends up being a possibility, perhaps it >becomes an incentive for those who desire to grow to eventually become >celestialized. I dunno. I think that it may be possible, just that it >would take them "worlds without end" (DC 131) to achie

[ZION] Prepare to Meet God

Jon Spencer favored us with: I do not disagree with you, but could you refresh my mind as to where this last statement is in the Book of Mormon? Also, what do you mean by "no labor can be performed?" It is my understanding that we shall continue to labor throughout eternity. At least, I certain

Re: [ZION] Animal sacrifice (was: Are any of you having problems?

Chet favored us with: There's an interesting scenario which strikes my mind as likely. The last time a righteous priesthood holder offered a sacrifice in the Jerusalem temple, an angel appeared and told him he'd be the father of John the Baptist. I'm kinda wondering if the next time a righteous

RE: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you havingproblems?

I was treated to a viewing of the first movie in this series last summer. We were at our annual family reunion at Fairmont in our timeshares and our family was the only one that thought to bring a DVD player and our copy of the movie. So all the LOR fanatics came to our suite to watch it. And as

Re: The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems

At 00:28 12/11/2002 +0800, Bishop Mark wrote: 3.) When all three movies are completed, the opus will considered one of the greatest cinematic achievements of all time. It will be a standard against which all other directors' works will be judged. Maybe no one will ever attempt anything like i

The Two Towers Anticipation (was Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

> By the way, am I the only one out there who is REALLY looking forward to > seeing "LOTR: The Two Towers"? Perhaps, but only because I am REALLY, UNBELIEVABLY looking forward to it. :-) While it does come out on the 18th, I count days until I will see it. So for me, it's ten more days. I

Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

They're already there. BYU's in a town called "Provost." Jon Spencer wrote: > You left out "and moves all French-Canadians to Utah" > > Jon > > - Original Message - > From: "Marc A. Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:44 PM > Subje

[ZION] Baby Andrea Update

All-- I finally managed to get updated photos of Andrea on the web. (All I had previously was our birth announcement from last February with Andrea's NICU photo.) The URL is at: http://www.firstnephi.com - Then click on "Andrea." All the best, /Sandy/ :-) -- The Rabinowitz Family, [EMAIL PRO

RE: [ZION] Teaching Correct Principle

John and Gary press on. Gary: > >Anyway, I think the problem lies in something that the sons of Mosiah > >teach us. We see Ammon and Aaron in Alma 17 set off to different parts > >amongst the Lamanites. Ammon finds Lamoni and offers to be a servant, > >makes friends, and converts thousands. Aaron

Re: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin

John W. Redelfs wrote: > > I'm with Elder McConkie, progression between kingdoms is heresy. It > violates the true principle that mercy cannot rob justice. THIS life is > the time to prepare to meet God. After this life no labor can be > performed. It says so in the Book of Mormon, so it must b

[ZION] Animal sacrifice (was: Are any of you having problems?

John W. Redelfs wrote: > Speaking of PETA, I just found another source for my claim that animal > sacrifice will be restored in this dispensation. It is in the > correlated > CES student manual for the Old Testament 1 King through Malachi on page > 287. > There's an interesting scenario wh

[ZION] NC outage update

So now we're down to less than 100,000 customers without power. These last few percent will take quite a bit of effort. It really is a wondrous thing to watch these workers keep at it for as long as they have, showing pride in their work, and working with a true purpose. If only we (I) would be

RE: [ZION] True Christian

John and Gary are speaking. Shh! Let's listen -- Gary: > >Little children who have never heard of Christ, but die before the age > >of > >eight are already his. Yet, they aren't baptized, nor have they really > >accepted any gospel, since they are too young to understand it or accept > >it. Jo

Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems? morphing to The Two Towers Anticipa

So now you have TWO reasons to be turning blue! Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: > Only 8 more days. Here in Ketchikan we are holding our breath. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsb

Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

But we won't be performing it, so we will be OK with PETA. Well, on that one issue at least. Jon John W. Redelfs wrote: > Speaking of PETA, I just found another source for my claim that animal > sacrifice will be restored in this dispensation. It is in the correlated > CES student manual for th

Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems? morphing to The Two Towers Anticipa

[EMAIL PROTECTED] favored us with: What kind of tumor, Paul? Hopefully, it is benign. By the way, am I the only one out there who is REALLY looking forward to seeing "LOTR: The Two Towers"? Only 8 more days. Here in Ketchikan we are holding our breath. --JWR

Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

Elmer L. Fairbank favored us with: At 21:44 12/8/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote: feeds Jonah Greenberg to the caribou, Does PETA know about this? Are they just sitting still over it? Speaking of PETA, I just found another source for my claim that animal sacrifice will be restored in this dispen

Re: [ZION] In SLC 12-18 Dec

Gary Smith favored us with: Heads up! I'll be in SLC for a week. I arrive late on 12 Dec and leave early on 18 Dec. If anyone wants to meet with me, leave me an email. I don't know how much email access I'll have, but I'll have some. Also, you will be able to reach me at my sister's house in West

Re: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin

Gary Smith favored us with: If progression between kingdoms ends up being a possibility, perhaps it becomes an incentive for those who desire to grow to eventually become celestialized. I dunno. I think that it may be possible, just that it would take them "worlds without end" (DC 131) to achieve

Re: [ZION] True Christians

Gary Smith favored us with: My definition of a 'true' Christian, is one who seeks his/her best to follow Christ and good works (including those who have not yet learned of Jesus or the fulness of the gospel). This is a person who listens to the Light of Christ (or Holy Ghost for members) and seeks

Re: [ZION] True Christians

Gary Smith favored us with: No, it isn't a straw man. It is exactly my point. Just where does a mortal being draw the line between what is a 'true' Christian and what isn't? Your definition keeps shifting on me. You said it was someone who fully followed Christ and his living prophets. Nope. Th

Re: [ZION] Teaching Correct Principle

Gary Smith favored us with: Anyway, I think the problem lies in something that the sons of Mosiah teach us. We see Ammon and Aaron in Alma 17 set off to different parts amongst the Lamanites. Ammon finds Lamoni and offers to be a servant, makes friends, and converts thousands. Aaron and the others

Re: [ZION] True Christian

Gary Smith favored us with: Are you referring to the LDS definition of hell, or the protestant version? What is the problem? Didn't I cite the scripture I was using for authority? I mean whatever "destruction" that the savior says awaits all those who follow the broad path instead of the str