RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-07 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 05:52 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote: Ron Scott wrote: > I'm pretty sure there are some Korihors and wolves in sheep's > clothing. Ezra Taft Benson said so. --JWR He did? When? Was he eyeballing his son? Maybe he was eyeballing his grandson, Steve. --JWR Rotfl -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTE

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-07 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 04:58 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 03:37 PM 11

Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-07 Thread George Cobabe
ect: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love At 10:36 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:31 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ZION] Neh

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron Scott wrote: > I'm pretty sure there are some Korihors and wolves in sheep's > clothing. Ezra Taft Benson said so. --JWR He did? When? Was he eyeballing his son? Maybe he was eyeballing his grandson, Steve. --JWR ///

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Tom Matkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > > > > Strawman. There are no such "far right&quo

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > Ron Scott wrote: > >Ah yes. And no Korihors and wolves in

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Matkin
> Strawman. There are no such "far right" members still in the Church that > I > am aware of. And I know an awful lot of the "far right" crowd being one > of > them myself. --JWR I'm only able to follow this logically if you are out of the Church now John. Help me understand what you are tryi

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron Scott wrote: Ah yes. And no Korihors and wolves in sheeps clothing either, right John? I'm pretty sure there are some Korihors and wolves in sheep's clothing. Ezra Taft Benson said so. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHART

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 03:37 PM 11/6/2003, Ron Scott wrote: > > > >Pre

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > Ron Scott wrote: > >It also troubling that some membe

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron Scott wrote: It also troubling that some members of the Church, particularly those with "far right" political views, think he is the only latter-day prophet worth listening to. Strawman. There are no such "far right" members still in the Church that I am aware of. And I know an awful lot of

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 03:37 PM 11/6/2003, Ron Scott wrote: President Benson was good enough for me. His politics were not. For additional comments, see my response to your fellow traveler. Ron Scott That's fine. The politics can come later--as you gain more light and knowledge . Which reminds me of a joke. Somethi

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
ing to. Ron Scott > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Beecroft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > -Ron- > > Ah, the Church of Ezra resurr

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 12:48 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > > > > >

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
every single prophet, beginning with Joseph Smith. But, that's just my opinion. Ron > -Original Message- > From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional L

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 12:48 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 11:43 AM 11/6/2003, you w

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron Scott wrote: Ah, the Church of Ezra resurrects itself. Who is its profit: Reed? Speaking of dead prophets, which are we to disdain more, Ezra Taft Benson or Bruce R. McConkie? And after President Hinckley dies are we to discount his words immediately, or should we wait an appropriate mournin

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Ron- > Ah, the Church of Ezra resurrects itself. Who is its profit: Reed? I don't understand this. Why would the prophet's words in General Conference constitute the "Church of Ezra"? And why would Reed Benson be called its "profit"? While I don't know Reed Benson personally, I have had a f

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 11:43 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > >Ron Scott wrote

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > Ron Scott wrote: > >Well, by all means, clue t

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:36 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > Just hazarding a guess, but I suspec

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 11:43 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: Ron Scott wrote: Well, by all means, clue them in as to what they've been missing. Be sure to show how it correlates neatly with Mormon teachings. Do I detect a note of sarcasm here.? --JWR More like a whole symphony . -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] I te

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron Scott wrote: Well, by all means, clue them in as to what they've been missing. Be sure to show how it correlates neatly with Mormon teachings. Do I detect a note of sarcasm here.? --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Ple

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > Just hazarding a guess, but I suspect that most people, some o

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 09:36 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > > And I'll take the "John Birchian" comment as a compliment--thank you. > > > -- > Steven Montgomery > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > My point exactly! Sometimes I read through all the messages before replying and other times I just dig in and start pushing the send button

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Matkin
> > And I'll take the "John Birchian" comment as a compliment--thank you. > > > -- > Steven Montgomery > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > My point exactly! Sometimes I read through all the messages before replying and other times I just dig in and start pushing the send button without reading everything. G

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Matkin
To me such worries have a familiar John Birchian > ring to them, no offense intended. > > Ron Scott Some people (on this list even) are singularly unoffended by the taint of John Birchism. Or so I've noticed. Tom // //

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 08:09 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > > > > >

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:09 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 07:49 AM 11/6/2003, yo

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 07:49 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: > > >So for th

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 07:49 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote: So for the moment I will abide your claims above. Meantime, please answer the key question I asked earlier: Give us specific examples of > ... how secular humanism and athiesm are bigger threats to us today than they were, say, a couple of hundred years ago.<

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 03:40 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote: > > > > >

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-06 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 03:40 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 10:17 AM 11/5/2003, you

RE: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love > > > At 10:17 AM 11/5/2003, you wrote: > >At 04:50

Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-05 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 02:24 PM 11/5/2003 -0700, St Steven wrote: President Benson thought so. For instance, in his famous talk (Which he gave over 37 different times. Not only in General Conference but to Regional Conferences, Regional Representatives Seminars, reprinted as the 1st Presidency Message in the Ensig

Re: [ZION] Nehors - was: Unconditional Love

2003-11-05 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:17 AM 11/5/2003, you wrote: At 04:50 PM 11/5/2003 +, Gary wrote: What is important is that we don't twist that love as did Nehor and as do many today, to excuse their sinful natures. Has anyone taken the time and energy to look at the Anti-Christs in the Book of Mormon, such as Nehor