[Zope] setup.py build
hey I am trying to setup a connection between python and mysql, trying to get a connection for zope. I get this error on building C:\Program Files\Zope-2.9.1\lib\python\Products\MySQL-python-1.2.0>setup.py buil d running build running build_py creating build creating build\lib.win32-2.4 copying _mysql_exceptions.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4 creating build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\__init__.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\converters.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\connections.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\cursors.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\sets.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\times.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\stringtimes.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\mxdatetimes.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\pytimes.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb creating build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\__init__.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\CR.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\FIELD_TYPE.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\ER.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\FLAG.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\REFRESH.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\CLIENT.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants running build_ext building '_mysql' extension creating build\temp.win32-2.4 creating build\temp.win32-2.4\Release C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\cl.exe /c /nologo /Ox /MD /W3 /GX /DNDEBUG -IC:\Python24\include -IC:\Python24\PC /Tc_mysql.c /Fobuild\temp.wi n32-2.4\Release\_mysql.obj cl : Command line warning D9035 : option 'GX' has been deprecated and will be re moved in a future release cl : Command line warning D9036 : use 'EHsc' instead of 'GX' _mysql.c c:\python24\include\pyconfig.h(130) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include fil e: 'basetsd.h': No such file or directory error: command '"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\cl.exe"' fail ed with exit status 2 C:\Program Files\Zope-2.9.1\lib\python\Products\MySQL-python-1.2.0>setup.py buil d running build running build_py creating build creating build\lib.win32-2.4 copying _mysql_exceptions.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4 creating build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\__init__.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\converters.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\connections.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\cursors.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\sets.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\times.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\stringtimes.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\mxdatetimes.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb copying MySQLdb\pytimes.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb creating build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\__init__.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\CR.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\FIELD_TYPE.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\ER.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\FLAG.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\REFRESH.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants copying MySQLdb\constants\CLIENT.py -> build\lib.win32-2.4\MySQLdb\constants running build_ext building '_mysql' extension Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\Zope-2.9.1\lib\python\Products\MySQL-python-1.2.0\setup .py", line 153, in ? setup(**metadata) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\core.py", line 149, in setup dist.run_commands() File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\dist.py", line 946, in run_commands self.run_command(cmd) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\dist.py", line 966, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\command\build.py", line 112, in run self.run_command(cmd_name) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\cmd.py", line 333, in run_command self.distribution.run_command(command) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\dist.py", line 966, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\command\build_ext.py", line 279, in run self.build_extensions() File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\command\build_ext.py", line 405, in build_exte nsions self.build_extension(ext) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\command\build_ext.py", line 470, in build_exte nsion depends=ext.depends) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\msvccompiler.py", line 309, in compile depends, extra_postargs) File "C:\Python24\lib\distutils\ccompiler.py", line 363, in _setup_compile raise TypeError, \ TypeError: 'include_dirs' (if supplied) must be a list of strings -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/set
Re: [Zope] how to count authenticated and anonymous users currently online ?
Luca Dall'Olio wrote at 2006-3-16 10:01 +0100: >I would like to know how many anonymous users are online >and also if some authenticated users are. You can do this using exuserfolder, you can effectively track the online users by setting a session limit which discounts them out after a period of inactivity. It also has support for anonymous user tracking, although there might be some minor tweaking involved to actually get a count. You need to be using cookies though. -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] errors building zope 3
On Thursday 16 March 2006 18:06, David Bear wrote: > this happens when I run make test as root as well. Don't run tests as root. I thought the test produces a warning when run as root, mhh. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] errors building zope 3
I have python 2.4.2 installed on freebsd. It is located at /home/webenv/bin/python2.4. I set my pythonpath to /home/webenv/lib/python2.4 Python works. Then I downloaded and built zope 3 with make sure to use -with-python and -prefix /home/z3. I run make then make test and get a lot of : Error in test testNOK (ZEO.tests.testAuth.PlainTextAuth) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/webenv/lib/python2.4/unittest.py", line 270, in run self.tearDown() File "/home/iddwb/installs/Zope-3.2.0/build/lib.freebsd-4.10-RELEASE-p2-i386-2.4/ZEO/tests/testAuth.py", line 54, in tearDown self.__super_tearDown() File "/home/iddwb/installs/Zope-3.2.0/build/lib.freebsd-4.10-RELEASE-p2-i386-2.4/ZEO/tests/ConnectionTests.py", line 118, in tearDown forker.shutdown_zeo_server(adminaddr) File "/home/iddwb/installs/Zope-3.2.0/build/lib.freebsd-4.10-RELEASE-p2-i386-2.4/ZEO/tests/forker.py", line 180, in shutdown_zeo_server s.connect(adminaddr) File "", line 1, in connect error: (60, 'Operation timed out') The errors are all 'operation timed out'. this happens when I run make test as root as well. any pointers?-- David BearWhat's the difference between private knowledge and public knowledge? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 05:54:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am perhaps being too lazy here. What is the minimal CMF > stuff to install to get the CMFCore/FS... objcts installed? I suspect you can download CMF from zope.org, unzip it, and install only the CMFCore directory. It shouldn't depend on anything else. But I've never done that myself. -PW > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/16/2006 03:05:45 PM: > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:59:04PM -0500, Chris Kratz wrote: > > > Hello Paul, > > > > > > How does the refresh interval work for DirectoryView? > > > > If I wrote it in english, it wouldn't be any shorter than the code > > in CMFCore/FSObject.py :-) See the _updateFromFS() method, > > you can browse it on svn.zope.org. > > > > -- > > > > Paul Winkler > > http://www.slinkp.com > > ___ > > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > ___ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
I am perhaps being too lazy here. What is the minimal CMF stuff to install to get the CMFCore/FS... objcts installed? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/16/2006 03:05:45 PM: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:59:04PM -0500, Chris Kratz wrote: > > Hello Paul, > > > > How does the refresh interval work for DirectoryView? > > If I wrote it in english, it wouldn't be any shorter than the code > in CMFCore/FSObject.py :-) See the _updateFromFS() method, > you can browse it on svn.zope.org. > > -- > > Paul Winkler > http://www.slinkp.com > ___ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] how to count authenticated and anonymous users currently online ?
Dieter Maurer wrote: Luca Dall'Olio wrote at 2006-3-16 10:01 +0100: I would like to know how many anonymous users are online Do you know what this should mean? The server has no a priori notion which users are "online". You may artificially define the term "session" and then consider the number of session as representing the number of online users. If you do this and you use Zope sessions to implement your notion of "session", then you can look at the "session_data_manager" to find out how many sessions are available. This would be more than enough to me, to know how many sessions are still available. If I could have the list of the ids of every active session, I could easily build the list I need (by the getSessionDataByKey() method)... I tried with something like : A session. but not even "manager" is allowed to execute that. Even trying an External Method : def activesessionlist( self): return self.temp_folder.keys() does not have any effect, instead : def sessionperiod( self): return self.temp_folder.getPeriodSeconds() works right. Could you please help me find out the list of active sessions? this is driving me crazy... Thank you very much, Luca ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] "Define Permissions" in ZMI Products
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Dieter Maurer wrote: > You can let your class derive from "OFS.ObjectManager.ObjectManager" > (or maybe "OFS.Folder.Folder"). Then you can put objects > into them. Yeah, the problem that I thought was going to exist didn't, as it turned out. > It is all voluntary work... > And documentation is less fun than code... Oh I fully understand, that wasn't a criticism, just a query of where best to look so as to try to lower the number of stupid questions I ask :) Thanks for the info. -J ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] "Define Permissions" in ZMI Products
Jeff Gentry wrote at 2006-3-15 15:55 -0500:
> ...
>In the past when I've worked with external products, all of my template,
>dtml, html, etc files have already been predefined and I've explicitly
>declared them in my code. for instance, to use a dtml file I would say
>something like:
>blah = DTMLFile('dtml/blah', globals())
You can let your class derive from "OFS.ObjectManager.ObjectManager"
(or maybe "OFS.Folder.Folder"). Then you can put objects
into them.
> ...
>b) What's the best way besides the mailing list to stay up to date with a
>lot of this stuff. I ask because when I look at Plope I see a link to the
>2.7 Zope Book.
It is all voluntary work...
And documentation is less fun than code...
The 2.7 edition is still a good reference.
What's new in Zope 2.8 is essentially the integration
of Zope3 via Five. You may look for a Five description
to learn what that means.
> When I try to find a copy of the Zope Developer Guide it
>points me to the 2.4 version.
This is still valid.
Only when you want to use the new Zope3 feature via Five,
you will have to consult a Five description (and maybe read
a Zope3 book).
> Most of what I've learned comes from those
>two guides and looking at other products - but then I'll end up seeing
>this or that which I picked up from XYZ product is "the wrong way to do
>it now"
Do not worry too much. The right/wrong way is not absolute/objective
but relative/subjective.
--
Dieter
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Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
Hugo Ramos wrote at 2006-3-15 17:45 -0300: >I'm using Zope+Apache on a 4 xeon's/4GB ram machine running Debian. >I've noticed that the CPU's never go beyond 30% top occupation... but >on rush hours the site takes too long to load... > >I've been reading about process affinity and how it could speed up >everything by making zope run on 1 CPU, Apache on another and so on... A further, more promissing option, is to run several Zope processes on the same machine (using different ports) with a load balancer in front feeding them with work. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] how to count authenticated and anonymous users currently online ?
Luca Dall'Olio wrote at 2006-3-16 10:01 +0100: >I would like to know how many anonymous users are online Do you know what this should mean? The server has no a priori notion which users are "online". You may artificially define the term "session" and then consider the number of session as representing the number of online users. If you do this and you use Zope sessions to implement your notion of "session", then you can look at the "session_data_manager" to find out how many sessions are available. >and also if >some authenticated users are. Same problem for authenticated users. You see them coming (because they log in) but you do not see them going. Thus, you do not know when they become offline... -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] read-only-database
Ulla Theiss wrote at 2006-3-16 17:00 +0100: >I want to run the database in read-only mode from CD and configured it >accordingly in the zope.conf: > >read-only-database on This is a relict from earlier times. It is no longer working... Nowadays, you specify the "read-only" property on the storage object. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] AttributeError on SESSION
Peter Bengtsson wrote at 2006-3-15 22:02 +: > ... >What do you get AttributeError on actually? What line? >The code above looks just fine. Are you perhaps trying to do session >['last view'] somewhere else without checking that it first exists? The reported problem looks as if the REQUEST were used after it has been closed. This can for example happen when an acquisition wrapper is cached in a "_v_" variable. The wrapper has at its bottom a stale REQUEST object, now closed. A closed REQUEST has lost all content of its "other", among them "SESSION". -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] how to add zopewiki product pages
Following on from a zope-dev thread: On 3/15/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simon Michael wrote: > You forgot to make a page under http://zopewiki.org/Products . Doh! :) > > Only half joking. If I'm looking for a dimly-remembered product from six > months ago, this is where I find what I need to know fastest. Is there any chance I could persuade you to add some info on them all? (or at least some stub pages you can point me at to edit?) There are a lot, and more than that I don't think it's a great model to have me typing in every product page myself. On the other hand.. it wouldn't take *that* long.. If you and I another volunteer or three spent 10 minutes a day on #zope, it wouldn't take long at all. Here's three ways to add a page: - create by url: go to http://zopewiki.org/TheProduct . If it isn't found, click the create button. Enter some notes. Even a single hyperlink or a one-line description is a good start. - create in the right place: go to http://zopewiki.org/products . Scroll down, look for a suitable sub-category and go there. Enter "TheProduct" in the page management form at the bottom of the page and click the create button. - create by mail-in: subscribe (http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWiki/subscribeform) and then forward email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Here are some niceties, which you can follow if you like: - include the word ZopeProduct, to unambiguously mark this page as a distinct zope product. This is a little bit handy for things like http://zopewiki.org/WikiStats#products . - the first paragraph is used as the page summary, so make it a nice snappy overview. - after that, add the home page link and any others you want. Most pages use STX's -- definition lists. - subscribe to the wiki or watch the front page to hear about and augment new product pages ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:59:04PM -0500, Chris Kratz wrote: > Hello Paul, > > How does the refresh interval work for DirectoryView? If I wrote it in english, it wouldn't be any shorter than the code in CMFCore/FSObject.py :-) See the _updateFromFS() method, you can browse it on svn.zope.org. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
On Thursday 16 March 2006 12:18 pm, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 11:00:11AM -0500, Chris Kratz wrote: > > > Now, if using svn for source control is the only reason he was using > > > APE, surely you'd agree that DirecotyViews are a more appropriate > > > method? > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > Chris > > > > Yes, you are more or less correct. The primary reason we went to APE > > was after having tried the nightmares of the various zope cvs products > > which just seemed to be able to tie themselves into knots after awhile. > > APElib allowed us to persist all objects as plain text files on the file > > system so that normal file system tools can be used for development. > > After we went to APE we moved from CVS to subversion. Now most of us > > develop using a text editor directly modifying our zope objects. We have > > the refresh interval dialed down to 1s on our dev boxes and 5-10 minutes > > on the live servers. This allows us to easily shoehorn minor patches > > (fix - commit - update server) without any service interruption on the > > live server. So, our reasons for using Apelib were... > > > > 1. Allow use of source control (branching, diffs, revision history, etc) > > on all content types as plain text files, not python pickles. > > 2. Allow editing of zope objects (DTML, ZPT, ZSQL, py script) externally > > in appropriate editor. > > 3. Allow us to quickly push out minor patches to running servers. > > 4. A distant final item was using TTW editing to do minor tweaks. > > DirectoryViews would mean you'd lose #4. > Otherwise, I think they'd work for you and it's a much simpler solution > than ape. > > Also, if you have any persistent objects for which there isn't an existing > FSObject-derived version, you'd have to write one. > > Another issue is that AFAIK there's no way to control the refresh > interval of FSObject subclasses. I guess you could monkeypatch > FSObject._updateFromFS. You might want to do that anyway so you > don't have to run your production servers in debug mode. Hello Paul, How does the refresh interval work for DirectoryView? Obviously it is not adjustable, so does it only read when it needs to the first time in and after that it hits the cache (until evicted)? I did extensive profiling of Apelib at one point and all the time was getting soaked up with ape checking mod times on thousands of files on the check interval. You don't notice this with a small site, but as the site grows it becomes noticeable. At one point I seriously thought about writing an external process/thread that would periodically sweep the files and check for modified items and then attempt to evict those items from the cache within each zope thread. Or even better, load the object into the cache out of band so it's there the next time the thread runs. I think that would have made apelib much faster and still responsive to changes on the file system. We never got it production ready though. -Chris -- Chris Kratz ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 11:00:11AM -0500, Chris Kratz wrote: > > Now, if using svn for source control is the only reason he was using > > APE, surely you'd agree that DirecotyViews are a more appropriate method? > > > > cheers, > > > > Chris > > Yes, you are more or less correct. The primary reason we went to APE was > after having tried the nightmares of the various zope cvs products which just > seemed to be able to tie themselves into knots after awhile. APElib allowed > us to persist all objects as plain text files on the file system so that > normal file system tools can be used for development. After we went to APE > we moved from CVS to subversion. Now most of us develop using a text editor > directly modifying our zope objects. We have the refresh interval dialed > down to 1s on our dev boxes and 5-10 minutes on the live servers. This > allows us to easily shoehorn minor patches (fix - commit - update server) > without any service interruption on the live server. So, our reasons for > using Apelib were... > > 1. Allow use of source control (branching, diffs, revision history, etc) on > all content types as plain text files, not python pickles. > 2. Allow editing of zope objects (DTML, ZPT, ZSQL, py script) externally in > appropriate editor. > 3. Allow us to quickly push out minor patches to running servers. > 4. A distant final item was using TTW editing to do minor tweaks. DirectoryViews would mean you'd lose #4. Otherwise, I think they'd work for you and it's a much simpler solution than ape. Also, if you have any persistent objects for which there isn't an existing FSObject-derived version, you'd have to write one. Another issue is that AFAIK there's no way to control the refresh interval of FSObject subclasses. I guess you could monkeypatch FSObject._updateFromFS. You might want to do that anyway so you don't have to run your production servers in debug mode. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
> Now, if using svn for source control is the only reason he was using > APE, surely you'd agree that DirecotyViews are a more appropriate method? > > cheers, > > Chris Yes, you are more or less correct. The primary reason we went to APE was after having tried the nightmares of the various zope cvs products which just seemed to be able to tie themselves into knots after awhile. APElib allowed us to persist all objects as plain text files on the file system so that normal file system tools can be used for development. After we went to APE we moved from CVS to subversion. Now most of us develop using a text editor directly modifying our zope objects. We have the refresh interval dialed down to 1s on our dev boxes and 5-10 minutes on the live servers. This allows us to easily shoehorn minor patches (fix - commit - update server) without any service interruption on the live server. So, our reasons for using Apelib were... 1. Allow use of source control (branching, diffs, revision history, etc) on all content types as plain text files, not python pickles. 2. Allow editing of zope objects (DTML, ZPT, ZSQL, py script) externally in appropriate editor. 3. Allow us to quickly push out minor patches to running servers. 4. A distant final item was using TTW editing to do minor tweaks. The only downsides we've found for apelib are that 1, it's slow and it's been end of lifed by it's creator. Two of us have taken stabs at trying to make it so it can run in newer versions of zope, but our deep zope fu isn't up to the challenge (nor do we have a lot of time). And it seems that low level stuff for zodb storage's change with every release (as shane noted in his eol announcement). -Chris -- Chris Kratz ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] read-only-database
Hello list, I want to run the database in read-only mode from CD and configured it accordingly in the zope.conf: read-only-database on enable-product-installation off zserver-read-only-mode on Starting Zope, I get the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\run.py", line 56, in ? run() File "\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\run.py", line 21, in run starter.prepare() File "E:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\__init__.py", line 98, in pre pare self.startZope() File "E:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\__init__.py", line 257, in st artZope Zope2.startup() File "E:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\__init__.py", line 47, in sta rtup starter.setConfiguration(cfg) File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\App\startup.py", line 56, in startup File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\DBTab\DBTab.py", line 96, in getDatabase File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\DBTab\DBTab.py", line 113, in _createDataba se File "E:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\datatypes.py", line 163, in o pen DB = self.createDB() File "E:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\Zope2\Startup\datatypes.py", line 160, in c reateDB return ZODBDatabase.open(self) File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\ZODB\config.py", line 97, in open File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\ZODB\config.py", line 133, in open File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\ZODB\FileStorage\FileStorage.py", line 112, in __init__ File "D:\Programme\Zope\lib\python\ZODB\lock_file.py", line 57, in __init__ IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '\\Zope-Instance/var/Data.fs.lock' r+ means opening the file for updating. This has not to do anything with read-only. Does anybody know what I have to configure additionaly, that read-only works? I run Zope 2.8.4 on windows. Many thanks in advance, Ulla. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
On Thursday 16 March 2006 02:41 am, Chris Withers wrote: > Chris Kratz wrote: > > Thanks for the pointers. But, isn't directory view part of plone? > > Yes, but they are more a part of CMF. You can either just install the > CMFCore product, or I remember there being a couple of packagings on > DirectoryView on its own, purely for doing what you want. I don't have > urls to them handy, sadly... > ... > Well, it'll be miles quicker that APE ;-) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wouldn't be a bad place to start... > > Chris Thanks for the pointers. Looks like I'm going to have to do some experimentation. -- Chris Kratz ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 02:38:04PM +0100, Stefan H. Holek wrote: > a) Your system may be I/O bound - not CPU bound - so you will never > see the CPU max out because the limiting factors are memory and disk/ > network access. On that note, if running linux on a box with IDE disks, make sure that the disks have dma turned on. This can have a big impact on overall system responsiveness. man hdparm for details. -PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
Thank you all !! (very insane multiple exclamation marks) I've been trying different scenarios and Zope performance increased 10 to 11 times faster... Cheers Hugo On 3/16/06, Stefan H. Holek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) Your system may be I/O bound - not CPU bound - so you will never > see the CPU max out because the limiting factors are memory and disk/ > network access. > > b) Make sure to tune Python's checkinterval. While you should > *always* do that, it is especially important on multi-processor/multi- > core hardware. The rule of thumb is to run the pystone benchmark, > divide the "pystones" your machine benchmarks at by 50, and put the > result into etc/zope.conf. > > e.g: > python-check-interval 1000 > > Once you get the checkinterval right, playing with processor affinity > becomes a pointless exercise, in my experience. > > c) Always use profiling tools for performance analysis. "Guessing" > rarely leads to effective optimizations. ZopeProfiler and PTProfiler > come to mind. > > HTH, > Stefan > > > On 15. Mär 2006, at 21:45, Hugo Ramos wrote: > > > Yellow, > > > > I'm using Zope+Apache on a 4 xeon's/4GB ram machine running Debian. > > I've noticed that the CPU's never go beyond 30% top occupation... but > > on rush hours the site takes too long to load... > > > > I've been reading about process affinity and how it could speed up > > everything by making zope run on 1 CPU, Apache on another and so on... > > > > Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? > > What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's > > will not be 100% used? > > -- > Anything that happens, happens. --Douglas Adams > > > -- Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10082105466310142690 http://otugga.blogspot.com/ http://otuggapoesia.blogspot.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] iptables problem
> Every time i reboot the server the iptables also reboot and i have to set > them up again for people to access zope > > Does anyone know how to stop this happening? After you configured iptables, do "service iptables save". That should do it. Bert... ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] iptables problem
On 16 Mar 2006, at 14:37, JulianRead wrote: Hi ive installed zope on a dedicated server with linux fedora core3 on port 8080 Ive used webmin to put port 8080 onto my linuix packet filtering iptable Every time i reboot the server the iptables also reboot and i have to set them up again for people to access zope Does anyone know how to stop this happening? I suggest you read up on webmin and iptables. This question has nothing to do with Zope. webmin is probably not doing the right thing. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] iptables problem
Hi ive installed zope on a dedicated server with linux fedora core3 on port 8080 Ive used webmin to put port 8080 onto my linuix packet filtering iptable Every time i reboot the server the iptables also reboot and i have to set them up again for people to access zope Does anyone know how to stop this happening? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/iptables-problem-t1291730.html#a3437039 Sent from the Zope - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Forum product
On 16 Mar 2006, at 14:15, cristina clavijo wrote: Hi! I need a forum in my plone site which has the following installation: - Zope 2.7.8 - Plone 2.1.2 - Python 2.3.5 - LinguaPlone 0.9 I have tried the following ones with no succeed: - CMFBoard doesn't work with Plone 2.1.x - PloneBoard works only with Zope 2.8 - SimpleForum works correctly but it's too simple. - CMFForum gives me an error when trying to add it. (traceback attached) Plone 2.1.2 works with Zope 2.8.6 if you look at the installation documentation. Why don't you use that and then try PloneBoard again? jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Forum product
Hi! I need a forum in my plone site which has the following installation:
- Zope 2.7.8
- Plone 2.1.2
- Python 2.3.5
- LinguaPlone 0.9
I have tried the following ones with no succeed:
- CMFBoard doesn't work with Plone 2.1.x
- PloneBoard works only with Zope 2.8
- SimpleForum works correctly but it's too simple.
- CMFForum gives me an error when trying to add it. (traceback attached)
Thanks for your attention
Cris.
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 195, in _exec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 134, in pt_render
Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 96, in pt_render
- /rjg/forum.2006-03-16.9207303151>
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 190, in __call__
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 671, in do_useMacro
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 409, in do_optTag_tal
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 394, in do_optTag
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 389, in no_tag
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 702, in do_defineSlot
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 409, in do_optTag_tal
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 394, in do_optTag
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 389, in no_tag
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 650, in do_defineMacro
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 694, in do_defineSlot
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 650, in do_defineMacro
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 409, in do_optTag_tal
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 394, in do_optTag
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 389, in no_tag
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 650, in do_defineMacro
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 234, in interpret
Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 460, in do_setLocal_tal
Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 221, in evaluate
- URL: file:CMFPlone/skins/plone_templates/folder_contents.pt
- Line 18, Column 4
- Expression:
standard:'batch|python:contentsMethod(contentFilter,batch=True,
b_size=b_size)'
- Names:
{'container': ,
'context': ,
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'here': ,
'loop': ,
'modules': instance at 0x00F6FD78>,
'nothing': None,
'options': {'args': ()},
'repeat': ,
'request': URL=http://localhost:8090/rjg/forum.2006-03-16.9207303151/folder_contents>,
'root': ,
'template': /rjg/forum.2006-03-16.9207303151>,
'traverse_subpath': [],
'user': rjg}
Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 174, in __call__
Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 162, in _eval
Module Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr, line 47, in __call__
- __traceback_info__: contentsMethod(contentFilter,batch=True,
b_size=b_size)
Module Python expression "contentsMethod(contentFilter,batch=True,
b_size=b_size)", line 1, in
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 108, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 163, in _exec
Module None, line 25, in getFolderContents
- /rjg/forum.2006-03-16.9207303151>
- Line 25
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 108, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.CMFCore.FSPythonScript, line 163, in _exec
TypeError: queryCatalog() takes no arguments (3 given)
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Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
a) Your system may be I/O bound - not CPU bound - so you will never see the CPU max out because the limiting factors are memory and disk/ network access. b) Make sure to tune Python's checkinterval. While you should *always* do that, it is especially important on multi-processor/multi- core hardware. The rule of thumb is to run the pystone benchmark, divide the "pystones" your machine benchmarks at by 50, and put the result into etc/zope.conf. e.g: python-check-interval 1000 Once you get the checkinterval right, playing with processor affinity becomes a pointless exercise, in my experience. c) Always use profiling tools for performance analysis. "Guessing" rarely leads to effective optimizations. ZopeProfiler and PTProfiler come to mind. HTH, Stefan On 15. Mär 2006, at 21:45, Hugo Ramos wrote: Yellow, I'm using Zope+Apache on a 4 xeon's/4GB ram machine running Debian. I've noticed that the CPU's never go beyond 30% top occupation... but on rush hours the site takes too long to load... I've been reading about process affinity and how it could speed up everything by making zope run on 1 CPU, Apache on another and so on... Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's will not be 100% used? -- Anything that happens, happens. --Douglas Adams ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] to inherit from CMFDefault.NewsItem
Hi, In my development I need a product which is basicly like CMFDefault.NewsItem, but I need to add a Selection field (SelectionWidget). Is there a way of inheriting CMFDefault.NewsItem and just add what I need? Thanks, Sergio ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
Why do you want to do this? Do you believe that this is more effective or efficient than the scheduling algorithm that Linux uses? Binding an application to a single processor makes very little sense at all. If Zope really is your limiting factor, then you need to spread that load over as many processors as possible, not lock it down to a single cpu - if you do that, then the rest of the processors sit idle while waiting for Zope to respond. Read up on ZEO. Then set yourself a ZEO server up and a couple of ZEO clients, balance your requests between the two using pound, apache or squid. I can guarantee you that if your system is Zope limited, then this will greatly increase responsiveness and the number of requests you can process simultaneously - I run over a dozen dual processor machines hosting approx 60 Zope applications across them, all using ZEO - an average of 5 or 6 instances per system, we have no problem with Zope only using one processor; the applications that are across most machines (up to 10 in our largest application) are very, very fast indeed and can cope with all the concurrent users we can throw at it. Your problem is not Zope itself... you definitely need to investigate further before coming to the conclusion that binding a Zope instance to a single processor is a solution - if you'll excuse me, that's a rather simplistic view to take. I was also suggest reading up on Apache, Linux, Proxying/Caching, Clustering and Load Balancing - they're all factors to consider when developing and deploying a web application. John Snowdon - IT Support Specialist -==- School of Medical Education Development Faculty of Medical Sciences Computing University of Newcastle Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Hugo Ramos >Sent: 15 March 2006 20:45 >To: [Zope] >Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine > > >Yellow, > >I'm using Zope+Apache on a 4 xeon's/4GB ram machine running Debian. >I've noticed that the CPU's never go beyond 30% top occupation... but >on rush hours the site takes too long to load... > >I've been reading about process affinity and how it could speed up >everything by making zope run on 1 CPU, Apache on another and so on... > >Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? >What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's >will not be 100% used? > > >Cheers >-- >Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10082105466310142690 >___ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
On 3/16/06, Tino Wildenhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey... but thank you Jens for spending all that time writing an email > > that doesn't help any1 at all...!!! > > check google for "multiple use of exclamation marks". Or look up Terry Pratchett quotes on www.lspace.org: '"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind."' -- Eric "Five exclamation marks, the sure sign of an insane mind." -- Reaper Man "And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head." -- Maskerade Terry doesn't like multiple exclamation marks. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Using Twisted rather than ZServer with Zope >= 2.9.0
You're right. If you need it, and don't have time to make it prod- ready, you could probably get someone from the Twisted community to help if they used that code as a reference. - C On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Dennis Allison wrote: Ummm well the sprint code does not look like it's production ready. :-) I was hoping that the experiment had been taken a bit further. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Chris McDonough wrote: Only minimally, AFAIK. A sprint in 2004 had this as the topic: http://www.zope.org/Members/adytumsolutions/pycon2004/TwistedZope - C On Mar 15, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Dennis Allison wrote: I know Twisted is used in the Zope 3 space. Has anyone experimented with replacing ZServer? A quick Google search turned up litte information. Pointers? Experience? -- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
You can do something like: /usr/bin/taskset -c 0 zeo/bin/zeoctl start /usr/bin/taskset -c 1 zope.a/bin/zopectl start /usr/bin/taskset -c 2 zope.b/bin/zopectl start /usr/bin/taskset -c 3 zope.c/bin/zopectl start You then need to load-balance across the ZOPE instances with (eg Pound or Squid). AFAIK it's only Python-based programs that need binding to a particular CPU, so Apache, Pound and Squid are fine without setting any affinity. Since ZEO is not very CPU intensive, you can share it's CPU with another ZOPE instance should you wish. We're running twin ZOPE instances and ZEO on a dual CPU Debian box, load balancing with Pound and caching and URL rewriting with Apache. The feeling these days seems to be that load balancing and caching with Squid gives better performance. Steven Steven Hayles - Computer Systems Developer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Learning Technology Section, Computer Centre, University of Leicester, University Rd, Leicester, LE1 7RH Fax (0/+44)116 2525027 WWW http://www.le.ac.uk/home/sh23> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Hugo Ramos wrote: Yellow, I'm using Zope+Apache on a 4 xeon's/4GB ram machine running Debian. I've noticed that the CPU's never go beyond 30% top occupation... but on rush hours the site takes too long to load... I've been reading about process affinity and how it could speed up everything by making zope run on 1 CPU, Apache on another and so on... Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's will not be 100% used? Cheers -- Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=10082105466310142690 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] how to count authenticated and anonymous users currently online ?
I would like to know how many anonymous users are online and also if some authenticated users are. I tried with "guest counter" but couldn't make it work, and tried also to inspect temp-folder/session_data but I get a security error. Is there a way to accomplish this? Thank you everybody in advance for any hint! Luca ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
> Hugo Ramos wrote:>> However, as an aside, how have you established that processor affinity > is the problem here? I'd suggest looking at your disk and memory usage> patterns. i/o wait or swap death could quite easily see your processors> only hitting 30% even if the affinity is locked down exactly as you'd > like... google for taskset and debian. that'll help tie a process to a cpu hth -- http://myzope.kedai.com.my - my-zope org ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
Chris Withers wrote: Hugo Ramos wrote: However, as an aside, how have you established that processor affinity is the problem here? I'd suggest looking at your disk and memory usage patterns. i/o wait or swap death could quite easily see your processors only hitting 30% even if the affinity is locked down exactly as you'd like... With a 4 GB machine that is probably not a problem. You can usually run quite a few sites with that much memory. -- hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark http://www.mxm.dk/ IT's Mad Science Phone: +45 66 11 84 94 Mobile: +45 29 93 42 96 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
Hugo Ramos wrote: I think these questions are very ZOPE RELATED since I asked them in a Zope mailing list don't you think? No, we don't. This has nothing specific to do with Zope. Process affinity is an OS-specific thing, and if you care about it you should as on an OS-specific forum. In your case, you're probably going to get help much more quickly and usefully on #debian on irc.freenode.net. The guys there are really clued up. However, as an aside, how have you established that processor affinity is the problem here? I'd suggest looking at your disk and memory usage patterns. i/o wait or swap death could quite easily see your processors only hitting 30% even if the affinity is locked down exactly as you'd like... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
Hi Chris, Please keep replies on the list... Chris Kratz wrote: Thanks for the pointers. But, isn't directory view part of plone? Yes, but they are more a part of CMF. You can either just install the CMFCore product, or I remember there being a couple of packagings on DirectoryView on its own, purely for doing what you want. I don't have urls to them handy, sadly... this point as it's mainly a database app and not a content based app. Also, what about performance? Ape has quite a hit compared to standared data.fs, but gives us enough benefit (ease of development) that we have stayed with it. How does DirectoryView compare with the normal data.fs? Well, it'll be miles quicker that APE ;-) Is there some place I can learn more about DirectoryViews? I havn't had much luck with either zope, plone or google search. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wouldn't be a bad place to start... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Ape
Paul Winkler wrote: On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:29:05PM +, Chris Withers wrote: Ouch, DirectoryViews are more likely what you want... Sure, they're great. But through the web they are read-only. That's hardly a complete replacement for Ape. Depends on CK's real needs of course. Let's have a read shall we: >> Chris Kratz wrote: >>> We are very interested in this as well. We have a large application using >>> Apelib right now to persist our zope application onto the filesystem so we >>> can use subversion. Now, if using svn for source control is the only reason he was using APE, surely you'd agree that DirecotyViews are a more appropriate method? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] display results from external source in zpt
Andreas Jung wrote: allow_module() is not a solution for all and everything (consider it a hack). Don't be rediculous. It's not a hack, it's the documented way of providing security assertions from existing code without having to patch it. That sounds a lot like what the component architecture is, and I don't think anyone's likely to call that a hack. However, those allow_* functions are rather confusing. The documentation could do with beefing up and the circumstances where they don't work should be raised as bugs... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] display results from external source in zpt
Dean Hale wrote:
I'm assuming i need to add some extra details to the __init__.py file is
this correct and if so have you any ideas what they would be
from Products.PythonScripts.Utility import allow_module
allow_module('urllib')
I dunno if it'll help, but try enabling verbose security in your zope.conf.
However, you may just need to fiddle.
Try adding some allow_* statements for urlopen as well as anything else
you import from urllin and see how you go.
That said, it may be easier (and execute faster) if you just duck out
and use an external method.
Also, be aware that doing what you're doing, the performance of your
website now depends on the performance of another website, and the
network between your webserver and the other webserver. This may not be
what you want. You should certainly look at introducing a socket timeout
for those connections
Chris
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Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 05:45:23PM -0300, Hugo Ramos wrote: > Yellow, > > I'm using Zope+Apache on a 4 xeon's/4GB ram machine running Debian. > I've noticed that the CPU's never go beyond 30% top occupation... but > on rush hours the site takes too long to load... > > I've been reading about process affinity and how it could speed up > everything by making zope run on 1 CPU, Apache on another and so on... > > Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? > What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's > will not be 100% used? Have you considered that your setup might be IO bound? -- __ "Nothing is as subjective as reality" Reinoud van Leeuwen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xs4all.nl/~reinoud __ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine
Hugo Ramos wrote: "Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's will not be 100% used?" I think these questions are very ZOPE RELATED since I asked them in a Zope mailing list don't you think? Eh ... it doesn't become zope related because you ask it in a Zope group. Do you also ask how to write books on a Microsoft Word list? I'm asking about Zope user/administrator experience related to Zope use on a quad machine!!! Of course if some1 tells me how to do it using OS related stuff this is STILL Zope related! Assigning a process to a cpu is a general os problem, and not really related to zope. Zope is just another process. eg: http://www.google.com/search?q=cpu+affinity plone.org is running on a dual cpu box, with one zeo and a zeo client, so clearly it can be done. Hey... but thank you Jens for spending all that time writing an email that doesn't help any1 at all...!!! Sarkasm against a long time, and helpfull, list user will not help you any at all. -- hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark http://www.mxm.dk/ IT's Mad Science Phone: +45 66 11 84 94 Mobile: +45 29 93 42 96 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
