Shane Hathaway wrote:
Python's sort() lets you sort based on not only strings but also tuples,
lists, and numbers, which is a very useful feature. Thus sort() is
intended to be a highly generalized method. It is useful but not ideal
for sorting text strings. What you *really* want is a
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Chris Withers writes:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Andy McKay writes:
what does anyone else think
I would not like it.
Why not? ;-)
I would not like to see this sort order in the management
screens, because I use capitalization to ensure that
Toby Dickenson wrote:
(reasons of course would be helpful, particularly if you want it to stay
like it is ;-)
I noticed the smiley, so Im not sure how serious the suggestion is.
It was serious, the smiley was 'cos I couldn't understand why anyone
would want it to stay like it is :-)
1.
Chris Withers writes:
However, if anyone does know what constitutes a 'seperate object' in
ZODB terms, it be really useful to know.
I'm guessing a class which inherits from Persistent? Dictionaries don't,
'cos they're python builtins, which I'm pretty certain was the problem
in my
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Chris Withers writes:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Andy McKay writes:
what does anyone else think
I would not like it.
Why not? ;-)
I would not like to see this sort order in the management
screens, because I use capitalization to
Jim Fulton wrote:
I'm inclined to think that in some future version of Zope, we
should switch to making explicit acquisition the norm.
Well, implicit is good when you're starting, but can cause fun with
security later.
Hmmm, I guess I like the way it is but my wishlist (damn, Christmas just
Hi guys,
This is my first entry to this mailing list and please forgive me
if u feel this a stupid problem to begin with.(Today happens to be my
first day on ZServer)
My Zserver has started at 8080 but the manage.dtml is not
accessible from the browser either as localhost or with the host
Heinz-Josef Claes writes:
dynamic permissions
It is not Zope's normal behaviour.
Of cause, you could plug in a new UserFolder that
implements the features you require (someone else
recommended "LoginManager").
On the other hand, Zope is flexible enough to let you
approximate the
See below (nothing earth shattering tho) ;)
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Shane Hathaway" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] case insensitive sorts
Shane Hathaway wrote:
Andrew
David
Wayne
bart
sophie
is better than sorting:
Andrew
bart
David
sophie
Wayne
That's only because you use NT (ach spit). ;)
Thats not actually true.
It is how python behaves on WinNt, Win9X, Linux, etc
(I have tested this)
-Andy
http://127.0.0.1:8080/
if that works then check out your /etc/hosts file or equiv
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
This is my first entry to this mailing list and please forgive me
if u feel this a stupid problem to begin with.(Today happens to be my
first day on
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
DataSkins stored in Racks do not participate in the Zope ownership
mechanism, nor the creation of the 'Owner' role. This is because they are
not being stored via the normal ObjectManager protocols.
Hurm... to what extent do they participate in Zope's Security
Ty Sarna wrote:
AppTabs[4]
[4] Unreleased product, still in some flux. It mainly provides fancier,
more flexible version of Zope's management tabs, suitable for use in an
application (that is, suitable for exposing to users, not just
developers). It also has some local roles hooks as
Steve Alexander wrote:
On a related issue, what about other dtml snippets that people generally
don't want as web accessible, such as standard_html_header ?
On my pie-in-the-sky zope wishlist:
snip wishlist
I did have a proposal for just this on dev.zope.org, but I see someone
has
Dieter Maurer wrote:
There are objects, that should be usable by Anonymous
inside DTML but should not be viewable over the
web (as they will only confuse).
All page components (such as "standard_html_header/footer")
fall into this category.
Totally agree... this has bugged
Your analogies imply that this behavior is a bug or an unintended flaw
in the design. I would argue that it is intentional. Unix file systems
work the same way. Try doing an "ls" with mixed case files and you'll
see what I mean.
It isn't a flaw. It seems as though it was overlooked.
The
Andy Dawkins wrote:
Your analogies imply that this behavior is a bug or an unintended flaw
in the design. I would argue that it is intentional. Unix file systems
work the same way. Try doing an "ls" with mixed case files and you'll
see what I mean.
It isn't a flaw. It seems as
Andy McKay wrote:
They want information fast and most users expect case insensitive sorts. Its
simpler and easy. I think having the ignore_case option for a -tree and -in
helps Zope by increasing the ease of development and friendliness to the
user.
And my point was that this is so
I recently read RFC 2396 which defines the generic URI syntax
and especially the URL syntax.
I recognized, that
* Zope forbids many characters in ids (with the error message
"not allowed in URLs"), that are legal characters
in URL path segments:
generally allowed in URL's:
Hmm im actually not so sure on that. Currently you can do a sort either way,
if you fix it so its only case sensitive we'll end up like Visual Basic :)
Fixing python is a question for the python list and I'd be scared to ask it
there...
--
Andy McKay, Developer.
ActiveState.
- Original
Hi,
Once again I'm back at trying to solve this problem, hopefully with a
little more knowledge this time ;-)
What I'd like:
'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can
contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessarily tied
to the ZODB but where the
Andy McKay wrote:
Hmm im actually not so sure on that. Currently you can do a sort either way,
if you fix it so its only case sensitive we'll end up like Visual Basic :)
Actually, I'd like to see it 'fixed' so it's only case insensitive:
Alan
betty
Carl
Wilbur
Fixing python is a question
Hi Chris,
Random thoughts follow. ;-)
I think that if you make your DataSkins folderish it will be hard
to make the storage anything other than ZODB. However, Steve
Alexander posted a neat trick the other day where __bobo_traverse__ is
supplied by an attribute provider. You could use this
Chris Withers wrote:
Hi,
Once again I'm back at trying to solve this problem, hopefully with a
little more knowledge this time ;-)
What I'd like:
'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can
contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessarily tied
At 05:15 PM 1/3/01 +, Chris Withers wrote:
What I'd like:
'Zope' objects of type 'X', which can have multiple parents and can
contain other objects of type 'X', where storage isn't necessarily tied
to the ZODB but where the objects have a normal properties page (in
terms of use, again, it'd
Chris Withers wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
- Policies to control whether multiple revisions are stored
or whether revisions are removed by packing on a object-by-object
or transaction-by-transaction basis.
You could keep significant historical revisions for important
From: BS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can anyone tell me how to do a "from Products.ZPatterns import anything"
when using INSTANCE_HOME?
Do I have to add the INSTANCE_HOME path to sys.path?
As long as Python has already imported Zope (i.e. you're in another Product)
you don't need to do anything
Has anyone tried to
use the "Freeze" utility on Zope?
How about Gordon
McMillian's"Install" application to make a self-contained Python-Zope
executable for Win32?
My goal is to create
a very easy install of Zope that consists of one or two files. For some of my
clients this seems less
Hi!
Actually should answer to these posts... ;-)
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:11:37PM -0500, Steve Spicklemire wrote:
Hi Christian,
Well, nobody else answered that I saw... so I'll take a crack
at your questions
"CS" == Christian Scholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
CS Hi
Hi Steve!
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 10:45:46PM +, Steve Alexander wrote:
Steve Spicklemire wrote:
CS 2. Is it planned to provide something like a virtual folder
CS which acts like a normal object manager but is controlled via
CS ZPatterns (so actually something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My Zserver has started at 8080 but the manage.dtml is not
accessible from the browser either as localhost or with the host name.
Please suggest me an answer the problem ASAP.
You are using:
http://localhost:8080/manage
do you?
You must not use
Chris Withers writes:
Andrew
bart
David
sophie
Wayne
Why in hell do you switch caseness for similar objects?
If you apply some naming conventions, such as
"objects start with a Capital letter, verb with a lowercase letter",
you may find Python's sorting order usefull.
Dieter
Chris Withers wrote:
Michael Bernstein wrote:
If you are writing your own cataloging and uncataloging
code, then I think that it could be.
G
The cataloguing code in Squishdot amounts to about 4 lines, all of which
are calls to standard ZCatalog interface methods as
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:09:02 -0500, "BS" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My goal is to create a very easy install of Zope that consists of one or two
files. For some of my clients this seems less intimidating on their machines
(they would rather not see the "source code", just an executable).
On win32
Michael Bernstein wrote:
Ah! That would be a very simple and elegant way of
eliminating 'add-dropdown-box pollution', among other
advantages.
An excellent proposal, indeed.
So, how to go about getting it implemented?
cheers,
Chris
___
Shane Hathaway wrote:
But like I told ChrisW, I think BerkeleyStorage will fill the need that
PartitionedFileStorage was only partitially addressing.
Is BerkleyStorage going to be as easy to set up and use?
I seem to remember Jim F making some comments to the contrary a while
back...
What
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 16:50:49 +, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
However, if anyone does know what constitutes a 'seperate object' in
ZODB terms, it be really useful to know.
I'm guessing a class which inherits from Persistent? Dictionaries don't,
'cos they're python builtins, which
Chris Withers wrote:
Michael Bernstein wrote:
I guess it's just a matter of only reinventing the wheels
you have to, and writing less code as a result.
I'm pretty sure Squishdot is re-inventing no wheels ;-)
If you are writing your own cataloging and uncataloging
code, then I think
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