Re: [Zope-dev] conflict error

2007-11-15 Thread peter . koppatz
Hi Paul, I experimented a litle bit. I removed zope.publisher-3.4.1-py2.4.egg/ and zope.traversing-3.4.0-py2.4.egg/ Then I transfered zope.traversing-3.5.0a1.dev_r78730-py2.4.egg/ and zope.publisher-3.5.0a1.dev_r78838-py2.4.egg/ from another box where the update of zcontact was

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 15 November 2007, Chris Withers wrote: Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all decent sized python frameworks are facing. We are still experimenting. I think once we tried our

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2007-11-15 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Nov 14 13:00:00 2007 UTC to Thu Nov 15 13:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Nov 14 20:55:01 EST 2007

[Zope-dev] minimum required for...

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, Kindof related to the packaging discussion... How do I get/install the minimum needed to have: - http/ftp/webdav servers - url publishing - security - component architecture cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force people who *use* the packages to stop using the facilities supplied setuptools. Agreed, If we want people

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Gr. I find setup.py test to be really annoying as it requires meta data that is available only to that command. Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setuptools-aware command; the tests_require dependencies then become

[Zope-dev] mapping from collector numbers to launchpad numbers?

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, How do you go about mapping from old collector issue numbers to new launchpad ticket numbers? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Fred Drake
On Nov 15, 2007 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Making sure that the tests can psss for somebody who is not a core Zope developer, (and therefore who doesn't know about zc.buildout, or want to). E.g.: $ /path/to/python setup.py develop $ /path/to/python

[Zope-dev] Re: mapping from collector numbers to launchpad numbers?

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, How do you go about mapping from old collector issue numbers to new launchpad ticket numbers? You let the www.zope.org redirect you. Tres. - -- ===

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 15, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-11-15 10:28 -0500: ... Agreed. I'll note that there is a school of thought that I proposed but am somewhat ambivalent about that anything required by tests should also be required by install. This is in accordance

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-11-15 10:28 -0500: ... Agreed. I'll note that there is a school of thought that I proposed but am somewhat ambivalent about that anything required by tests should also be required by install. This is in accordance with fly what you test, test what you fly. To the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Fred Drake wrote: On Nov 15, 2007 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Making sure that the tests can psss for somebody who is not a core Zope developer, (and therefore who doesn't know about zc.buildout, or want to). E.g.: $ /path/to/python setup.py

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Gr. I find setup.py test to be really annoying as it requires meta data that is available only to that command. Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setuptools-aware

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force people who *use* the packages to stop using

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: You are correct: I was misled by the presence of the section for the 'tests' extra. Attached find a patch against the setuptools-0.6 branch which addes a 'tests_require.txt' file entry point. I will propose that the patch be

[Zope-dev] Re: A book about Zope Component Architecture

2007-11-15 Thread KLEIN Stéphane
Le Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:07:33 +0530, Baiju M a écrit : Hi all, I started writing a book about Zope Component Architecture. http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.pdf If you have any suggestions/comments please send it to me. Great stuff !

[Zope-dev] at the dawn of the fourth age of Zope

2007-11-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I just wrote an article about the ages of Zope and the age I think we find ourselves in now on my blog. Enjoy, and I'd be happy to hear comments on it: http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2007/11/15/0 Regards, Martijn ___

[Zope-dev] Zope without Zope

2007-11-15 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi all, For fun, I just tried to make use of adapters and utilities, registered with ZCML, in a Pylons application. I installed Pylons in a virtualenv, and easy_installed zope.component and zope.interface using the KGS index for 3.4. I used zope.configuration (also installed) to load a

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Is there an equivalent for tests_require in buildout.cfg/zc.recipe.testrunner? The reason I ask is this... currently the zope.18n distribution has an install_requires that looks something like this: