Re: [Zope-dev] Re: default view

2006-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: > Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >> Florent Guillaume wrote: >>> Florent Guillaume wrote: So here's a proposal: how about having the following order: - __bobo_traverse__ - unacquired attribute - zope 3 views - acquired attributes >>> Attached is the

[Zope-dev] Re: Nasty error message with obscure bug

2006-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: > Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> Use the collector. It is *the* place where people go to look for >> things to fix. What length of time it takes to fix is a totally >> separate issue. Bugs that get posted on mailing lists get ignored >> unless they are "the world is coming to an end"

[Zope-dev] Re: Flood of deprecation warnings...

2006-06-20 Thread Rob Miller
Chris Withers wrote: Both core zope and Plone spew forth in their default state. the deprecation warnings in Plone annoy me to no end. unfortunately, though, Plone (thus far) has chosen to straddle Zope release. i can't fix the deprecation warnings that Plone 2.5 generates with Zope 2.9, fo

[Zope-dev] Re: Flood of deprecation warnings...

2006-06-20 Thread Florent Guillaume
Chris Withers wrote: Both core zope and Plone spew forth in their default state. Zope 2.10 does? It shouldn't. Please point out the deprecation warnings it sends. Also could we please bury the zLOG-was-only-halfwy-deprecated issue that's been beaten to death? Everybody knows there were spur

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 6/20/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it's also safe to say that some people will stick with a "good vintage" zope which has all the features they need and was stable. And that's OK, and in many cases completely sensible. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: default view

2006-06-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 6/20/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It broke a lot of stuff for us, so we switched back until we can figure out what's going on when we upgrade that piece of code to a newer version of Zope. There is more tests in Five 1.5, adding them to older version of Five should be easy.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: default view

2006-06-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 6/20/06, Florent Guillaume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was looking at the publisher, and it hacks the URL to explicitely add the default view to it when a default view is used. That might explain it. You're saying Zope 2.10 doesn't do that? I thought it did too. Well, it adds index_html, no

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: default view

2006-06-20 Thread Martijn Faassen
Florent Guillaume wrote: On 20 Jun 2006, at 13:23, Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] We've actually noticed Five 1.2.4 is not compatible with Five 1.2 in some way to do with mysterious 'index.html' bits appearing after URLs where we thought they shouldn't. We haven't tracked this down and we migh

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: default view

2006-06-20 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 20 Jun 2006, at 13:23, Martijn Faassen wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: So here's a proposal: how about having the following order: - __bobo_traverse__ - unacquired attribute - zope 3 views - acquired attributes Attached is the curre

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: default view

2006-06-20 Thread Martijn Faassen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: So here's a proposal: how about having the following order: - __bobo_traverse__ - unacquired attribute - zope 3 views - acquired attributes Attached is the current diff I'm working with (for Zope 2.10). Hey, c

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Unify the Zope 2 and Zope 3 repositories!

2006-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: > Benji York wrote: >> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: >>> Uh, never mind. >> >> +1 :) > > Any chance you could explain why you feel that way? Follow this thread: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2005-November/016561.html Philipp __

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Unify the Zope 2 and Zope 3 repositories!

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Withers
Benji York wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Uh, never mind. +1 :) Any chance you could explain why you feel that way? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-De

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: I for one, is NOT interested in backporting fixed in Five trunk to both Five 1.0, 1.1, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5, which is what are the current versions of Five if we say that Zope 2.8 and 2.7 should be still supported after the release of 2.10. We don't talk about Zope 2.7 which i

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Withers
As always, Martijn has prettymuch hit the nail on the head with this mail, +lots to all the points he raises... Chris Martijn Faassen wrote: I think we've concluded a number of things: * some developers (Andreas in particular) do not consider it a huge problem to keep maintaining an older v

[Zope-dev] Re: Flood of deprecation warnings...

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Withers
Martijn Faassen wrote: Chris Withers wrote: [snip] One of my other bugbears is that a flood of deprecation warnings often masks real problems. What real problems? Deprecation warnings in code I need to care about, as opposed to mindless spew from the zope core or other installed products bu

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Stable / Development branches?

2006-06-20 Thread Chris Withers
Lennart Regebro wrote: Supporting old versions must reasonably be a community effort, depending on if people have the time to do so. We can't just say "three versions should be officially supported" and then not doing it. Yup, and I think it's safe to say the fewer version we need to support,