Re: [Zope-dev] conflict error

2007-11-15 Thread peter . koppatz
Hi Paul, I experimented a litle bit. I removed zope.publisher-3.4.1-py2.4.egg/ and zope.traversing-3.4.0-py2.4.egg/ Then I transfered zope.traversing-3.5.0a1.dev_r78730-py2.4.egg/ and zope.publisher-3.5.0a1.dev_r78838-py2.4.egg/ from another box where the update of zcontact was succeessful.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2007-11-14 09:14 +: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a "transaction", in the ZODB sense -- I meant, "install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-15 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 15 November 2007, Chris Withers wrote: > Have all the things that have lead to buildout/kgs/etc been brought to > the attention of the distutils sig? This *must* be a problem that all > decent sized python frameworks are facing. We are still experimenting. I think once we tried our sol

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2007-11-15 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Nov 14 13:00:00 2007 UTC to Thu Nov 15 13:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Nov 14 20:55:01 EST 2007 URL

[Zope-dev] minimum required for...

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, Kindof related to the packaging discussion... How do I get/install the minimum needed to have: - http/ftp/webdav servers - url publishing - security - component architecture cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force people who *use* the packages to stop using the facilities supplied setuptools. Agreed, If we want people o

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Gr. I find "setup.py test" to be really annoying as it requires meta data that is available only to that command. Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setuptools-aware command; the tests_require dependencies then become introspecta

[Zope-dev] mapping from collector numbers to launchpad numbers?

2007-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, How do you go about mapping from old collector issue numbers to new launchpad ticket numbers? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Fred Drake
On Nov 15, 2007 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Making sure that the tests can psss for somebody who is not a >core Zope developer, (and therefore who doesn't know about >zc.buildout, or want to). E.g.: > > $ /path/to/python setup.py develop > $ /path/to/python

[Zope-dev] Re: mapping from collector numbers to launchpad numbers?

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: > Hi All, > > How do you go about mapping from old collector issue numbers to new > launchpad ticket numbers? You let the www.zope.org redirect you. Tres. - -- ==

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 15, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-11-15 10:28 -0500: ... Agreed. I'll note that there is a school of thought that I proposed but am somewhat ambivalent about that anything required by tests should also be required by install. This is in accordance with

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-11-15 10:28 -0500: > ... >Agreed. I'll note that there is a school of thought that I proposed >but am somewhat ambivalent about that anything required by tests >should also be required by install. This is in accordance with "fly >what you test, test what you fly." To

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Fred Drake wrote: > On Nov 15, 2007 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Making sure that the tests can psss for somebody who is not a > >core Zope developer, (and therefore who doesn't know about > >zc.buildout, or want to). E.g.: > > > > $ /path/to/python

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: > ... >>> Gr. I find "setup.py test" to be really annoying as it requires >>> meta data that is available only to that command. >> Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setup

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: > ... >> Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the >> *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force >> people >> who *use* the packages to s

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: > You are correct: I was misled by the presence of the section for the > 'tests' extra. Attached find a patch against the setuptools-0.6 branch > which addes a 'tests_require.txt' file entry point. I will propose that > the patch

[Zope-dev] Re: A book about Zope Component Architecture

2007-11-15 Thread KLEIN Stéphane
Le Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:07:33 +0530, Baiju M a écrit : > Hi all, > I started writing a book about Zope Component Architecture. > > http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html > http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.pdf > > If you have any suggestions/comments please send it to me. Great stuff

[Zope-dev] at the dawn of the fourth age of Zope

2007-11-15 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I just wrote an article about the ages of Zope and the age I think we find ourselves in now on my blog. Enjoy, and I'd be happy to hear comments on it: http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2007/11/15/0 Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-D

[Zope-dev] Zope without Zope

2007-11-15 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi all, For fun, I just tried to make use of adapters and utilities, registered with ZCML, in a Pylons application. I installed Pylons in a virtualenv, and easy_installed zope.component and zope.interface using the KGS index for 3.4. I used zope.configuration (also installed) to load a site.

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout "tests_require" analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: > Chris McDonough wrote: >> Is there an equivalent for "tests_require" in >> buildout.cfg/zc.recipe.testrunner? >> >> The reason I ask is this... currently the zope.18n distribution has >> an install_requires that looks something lik

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope without Zope

2007-11-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:38 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi all, For fun, I just tried to make use of adapters and utilities, registered with ZCML, in a Pylons application. I installed Pylons in a virtualenv, and easy_installed zope.component and zope.interface using the KGS index for 3.4. I