Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Downloadof Zope 2.8.3 is not possible

2005-10-19 Thread Jim Fulton

Andrew Sawyers wrote:

Ok guys.

I'm willing to eat a little crow on this one.  I blame it on being on a lap
top on prone to mucho interruptions (excuse mode off).  The condition for
this was actually more then the response I originally thought.  When a
unauthorized page is accessed on zope.org - you get a 302 to a require_login
script, which in turn does a 302 to the login form.  The below was the
response from the final redirect - not the initial one!  The initial
redirect actually has a cache hitthus the problem was obvious.  The page
which generated the intial redirect was a file system skin, which is cache
policy manager aware - and thus was getting the default policy applied.  As
of now, zope.org caches nothing explicity in the cache policy manager EXCEPT
for .css and .js files.  The squid servers explicitly are configured to NOT
cache pages rendered by zope which do not have explicit cache headers
already set.  So, any further weird caching should be traceable to the
various ram caches and/or httpd accelerated caches in the zope.org site and
not attributable to the framework cache policy or squid itself.


We are caching the release files themselves. I hope.

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Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible

2005-10-19 Thread Jim Fulton

Sidnei da Silva wrote:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 03:25:11PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
| - The product product has the *insane* policy that if any files aren't
|   published, the entire product is inaccessible.
| 
|   Does anyone know how to fix this? Is there a knob for this somewhere in

|   CMF?

I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using
'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API.

I'm sure that's an easy fix.


Can you give us a hint of how to fix it?  Is it a knob somewhere?
A DTML script? ;)

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Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] Download of Zope 2.8.3 is not possible

2005-10-20 Thread Jim Fulton

Chris Withers wrote:

Sidnei da Silva wrote:


On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:17:02PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote:
| | I don't think that's a CMF 'feature', unless the product is using
| | 'contentValues()' which is part of the CMF API.
| | BTW, this doesn't mean anything to me.

I guess it doesn't.



It did to me. I tried to solve this properly by actually going and 
editing the disk based software. The results are in 
Products/CMFPackage/SoftwarePackage.py.chrisw.2005-10-20 on app1. It was 
only after several confusing refreshes on zope.org that I remembered 
Andrew saying he'd added another app server to Zope.org. *sigh* It'd be 
REAL nice if even the hardware setup of zope.org was documented 
SOMEWHERE so that if any of us do get pissed off enough to actually try 
and fix anything, we have a vague clue of where we need to go to update 
stuff :-(


I made an attempt to document the hardware setup.  I announced this
a long time ago.  If you have the right privileges, you can:

  svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/zope.org/system-documentation/trunk

I don't think it's up to date, but it does reflect at least a partial
reality.  I wish this would be kept up to date. :/

...

Admittedly, this hides a load of potential other problems, but no-one 
really cares, right? ;-)


Nope.  We are just limping along until the ZF can create a new new (or
is that new new new) zope.org. :/

Anyway, I'm going to go and beat some walls down with my head. Hope the 
changes I've made help even a little...


Much thanks Chris!

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Re: [ZWeb] Re: [Zope.org-internal] Re: [Zopeorg-webmaster] DownloadofZope 2.8.3 is not possible

2005-10-20 Thread Jim Fulton

Andrew Sawyers wrote:

Actually, this is annoying.  I increasingly find docs useless for this very
reason.  I waste my time writing them.  People bitch about them not being
there or not correct, and they actually never even look.  It is documented -
and it's documented correctly.


I don't know how anyone would look.  You have to check something out to look.
I announced this a long time ago and it's not surprising to me that people
forgot.  I mainly remembered because I created it in the first place.

Having said that, we who have system access should all, on our local hard
drives, have a directory where we keep information relevent to z.o.
In that directory, there should be a checkout of the docs.  If you don't
have one, here's the command
you give:

  svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/zope.org/system-documentation/trunk 
zope.org-system-docs

Then, you will at least have some information that will remind you that the
documentation exists.  You should periodically update this.  Don't count on
being able to check it out in an emergency, as the system it's on may be down.
(Or it's Berkeley database may be hosed.)

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[ZWeb] Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?

2006-04-04 Thread Jim Fulton

Someone fat-fingered the cache configuration. It has been
fixed afaik.

Jim

Chris Withers wrote:

Hi Jim,

Did anyone ever get to the bottom of this?

cheers,

Chris

Chris Withers wrote:


Lennart Regebro wrote:


On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and
dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com.



Seems to work now. At least for me.



This is still happening intermittently for some people.

Jim has raised it with the guys who host zope.org...

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Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jim Fulton


On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:


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On 25 Sep 2006, at 12:05, Martijn Faassen wrote:

 Incidentally I'd like to float the idea of moving zopewiki to (some
 incarnation of) zope.org. Eg put it at zope.org/wiki

 +1 on the idea, it wouldn't even have to be in the same Zope  
instance,

 rewrite rules can do the stitching-in.

 I'd assume this is more of a foundation decision, though?

Consider this a foundation decision, let's do it. zope.org/wiki is  
the way to go.


Separate instance with rewrite rules sounds a good plan to me.

Jens, do you have enough zope.org fu to get this set up? Right now  
the whole zope.org is technically a complete unknown to me. Right  
now the implementation is the only thing stopping this from going  
ahead. :)


Unfortunately all the pieces above Zope, like rewrite setups, are  
out of reach and only accessible by ZC.


Right.


I believe there's Squid in front, and the rewrites are handled by a  
rewriter process.


Yup.

Additionally, there is no good information about the appserver  
tier, either. I was under the impression there were two, but when I  
tried to access them both I thought I always ended up on one and  
the same host.


There are 4 instances running on two hosts.  There is a storage/LDAP  
server.  There is a pool of squid servers and load balancers. There  
is the machine that goes by many names, including svn.zope.org,  
cvs.zope.org, and mail.zope.org.  The squid servers are load  
balancers are shared with our commercial customers.


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Re: [ZWeb] Re: the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-25 Thread Jim Fulton


On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Chris Withers wrote:


Jim Fulton wrote:
the machine that goes by many names, including svn.zope.org,  
cvs.zope.org, and mail.zope.org.


I think I'm right in saying that this poor box does have apache on  
it and so might not be such a bad place to stick the foundation  
stuff if it is just flat files?


Good point.

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Re: [ZWeb] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-10 Thread Jim Fulton

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

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On 9 Oct 2006, at 17:10, Jim Fulton wrote:

I'll repeat that our commercial cluster is not the right place to host
zope.org.  We can't really give volunteers the access to do what 
they need to

do.
Please explain why?  There is no commercial customers on the boxes 
zope.org

services are on, outside of the load balancer and squid, which are not
necessary to make progress until things can be moved.


Because to do what people want to do, they think they need full sudo.
I'm not sure this is necessary.  For example, it's possible that
it would be enough for many interesting tasks to give people
the ability to sudo to the user zope.  We could do that.

Giving root access to those boxes is not a risk that we're willing
to take.


It's strange how that never used to be a problem before, and all of a 
sudden it is. Jim, remember us exchanging emails in 2005 about providing 
full sudo access for tasks like moving CMF from CVS to Subversion?


Nope, but I'll take you're word for it.

 I
still have that whole email exchange. There was no discussion at all 
about full sudo access being a problem. Matter of fact you were all for 
people stepping up to solve problems.


I still am.

I would never have signed all those documents that gave me access as a 
non-employee if I had known every root-access sysadmin task had to be 
approved by ZC. If you take a look at http://www.zope.org/About there is 
a specific systems admin group mentioned. That's what I thought I signed 
up for. I guess I was mistaken.


This isn't my call.

I'm not going to judge whether it is right or wrong.

I'll just reiterate that zope.org needs to move.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org dns

2006-10-13 Thread Jim Fulton

Christian Theune wrote:
...

Thanks for getting back to normal to everyone who helped.


+sys.maxint

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[ZWeb] Please stop the statistical nonsense and it was fun :) threads.

2006-10-13 Thread Jim Fulton

These threads have gone far enough.  Let's stop.

I've banned Justizin from this list for his totally inappropriate
language.

We've had enough fun.  Let's get on with making positive progress.

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Re: [ZWeb] re: it was fun :)

2006-10-13 Thread Jim Fulton


Please stop this thread.

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Re: [ZWeb] wiki.zope.org outage

2007-02-15 Thread Jim Fulton


On Feb 14, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Simon Michael wrote:

Hi all. I apologise for today's outage of wiki.zope.org and  
zwiki.org . Things were working ok until about lunchtime.. I and  
others even were doing a bunch of maintenance. Around noon I packed  
the zodb (from 3 - 2G). This afternoon I notice zope down and I  
can't start the zeo client with either the old or new Data.fs.  
After connecting to the server it says:


2007-02-14 17:51:50 BLATHER ZEO.zrpc (17346) CT: exiting thread:  
Connect([(2, ('localhost', ))])
2007-02-14 17:51:51 ERROR ZODB.serialize Unpickling error:  
'(cApp.ApplicationManager\nApplicationManager\nq\x$

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /zope-2.9.4/lib/python/ZODB/serialize.py, line 597, in  
getState

return unpickler.load()
EOFError

I would appreciate any ideas at all. Best,


Do you have ZEO set to use a persistent cache? If so, remove it and  
try again.

If not:

It looks like your database is corrupted.  Have you tried using  
the .old file
left by the pack?  If that doesn't work, you'll probably need to use  
a backup.


Otherwise, it might be possible to replace this object.  I don't  
think ApplicationManagers have any precious state.  They really  
shouldn't be persistent at all IMO.  You might be able to use zopectl  
debug to replace this object with a new instance.


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Re: [ZWeb] Re: wiki.zope.org outage

2007-02-15 Thread Jim Fulton


On Feb 15, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Simon Michael wrote:


Jim Fulton wrote:

'(cApp.ApplicationManager\nApplicationManager\nq\x$


Jim, thanks for the tips. I'm sorry, I see now the above was  
truncated. For the record a more complete error is below.


fstest.py reported no problems and today I found ZODB/fsrecover.py  
(not in SOFTWARE_HOME/bin), which processed the whole zodb with 0  
bytes removed during recovery.


Note that both of these analyze the database structure but not the  
pickle contents.  It would be nice to have a tool that also analyzed  
the pickles.



I tried a backup today. I could swear it showed the same problem,  
and I got it to go away removing var/{pts,LatexWiki}/* and Products/ 
*, but I can't reproduce either of these; anyway, the long and  
short of it is the server is back up and running, and any changes  
since 2007/02/14 04:19 MST will have to be redone.


Did you try the .old file left by the pack?

Thanks all. My next two projects are to export to a fresh zodb to  
reduce the size, and to upgrade to 2.10.x.


The pack should work.  I'd be very surprised if the problem was  
caused by the pack.


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[ZWeb] Re: [Zope3-Users] is it possible to copy object b/w two zodb Database

2008-06-11 Thread Jim Fulton


On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:36 AM, rahul bhaskar wrote:


Hi,
I am facing some problem with merging two zodb file.
is it possible to open two zodb Database at a time and copy object
from one to another.



Yes, using the export/import mechanism.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org ldap services not working

2008-06-18 Thread Jim Fulton

I think this is actually an SMTP issue.

I'm having no problem accessing ldap queries from the server.

If ldap was the problem, we wouldn't even be able to log in.

Jim

On Jun 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:


http://www.zope.org/mail_password_form returns an error:

 111, 'Connection refused'

when requesting a user password.


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org ldap services not working

2008-06-18 Thread Jim Fulton


On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:


Michael Haubenwallner schrieb:

http://www.zope.org/mail_password_form returns an error:
 111, 'Connection refused'
when requesting a user password.


Now the form returns another error:

 The User ID you entered could not be found.

The user is registered and available from acl_users.

Any ideas?


One of the 2 app servers is having trouble, presumably because it has  
lost it's connection to ldap.


I'm investigating.


Is LDAP down ?



No.

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Re: [ZWeb] svn server broken

2008-11-10 Thread Jim Fulton

On Nov 10, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Christian Theune wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 02:40 -0500, David Lawson wrote:
 Sorry, svn.zope.org experienced a hardware failure earlier in the day
 which we believed we had remediated, but which has re-surfaced as
 something more serious.  We're working on getting it resolved and
 should have it back up soon, hopefully before noon EST.

 I'm with Martijn here. I'm happy you take care of the machine, but  
 noon
 EST is a full working day in Europe without svn.zope.org. That's a lot
 of buildout processes hanging. So, please, pretty please, can you make
 the machine fail gracefully for the outside world and not have  
 dangling
 connections?


Unfortunately we can't. The file system on that machine isn't  
currently allowing writes. :(

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-03 Thread Jim Fulton
Sorry, I should have responded earlier. We're digging into it.

Jim

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:
 On 03.08.09 19:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:

  On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 
  On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:
 
  Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
  backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
  would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
  the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
  Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.
 
  Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!

  Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

 It works perfectly fine for me.
 *shrug* creating a new document took roughly 15 minutes. During
 that time all requests were hanging on my side. They terminated
 after the documented was created...anyway...old Plone crap.

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
I'm on #zope-web.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:
 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can not
 proceed with the releases.

 Andreas

 On 03.08.09 19:52, Jim Fulton wrote:
 We cleaned up some old files and the space problem is addressed, at
 least for a few months. We'll look into getting some newer hardware
 for the storage server.

 We also restarted the app servers, although the app still seems to be
 quite slow.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote:

 Sorry, I should have responded earlier. We're digging into it.

 Jim

 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Jungli...@zopyx.com wrote:

 On 03.08.09 19:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:25 , Andreas Jung wrote:


 On 03.08.09 19:24, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2009, at 19:22 , David Lawson wrote:


 Joseph and I both cleaned off some things.  I also modified the repozo
 backup cleanup script to only keep six days of backups, otherwise we
 would have run out of space again either in a week or the next time
 the database packed.  The major space usage was the Data.fs, the
 Data.fs.old, and two full FS backups made by repozo.

 Alright, thanks for jumping onto it so quickly!


 Right now zope.org is dead - all requests are hanging.

 It works perfectly fine for me.

 *shrug* creating a new document took roughly 15 minutes. During
 that time all requests were hanging on my side. They terminated
 after the documented was created...anyway...old Plone crap.

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
Thanks!

Jim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Michael Haubenwallnermich...@d2m.at wrote:
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 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:43 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can
 not
 proceed with the releases.

 I just looked and for some strange reason the ZODB has grown to over
 30 GB, which means it more than doubled in size since the last full
 backup on August 2. Looking at the backup files from repozo it appears
 the massive growth happened over the last few days, those daily
 incrementals since August 2 range from 5-6 GB in size each.

 I have now freed up 3 GB by deleting the remaining delta files from
 the previous round of backups, but this may not be enough seeing how
 fast the database is growing. Something fishy is going on.


 Hi, this was caused by spamming 2 collector issues in member space, each
 holding a transcript of about 1 MB and more.

 I removed the issues, blocked the spamming user account and finally
 changed default roles for everything collector related to 'Manager'.

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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
Jens,

We're doing this. (Actually, we're going to copy the backups to
another disk first.)

We're also going to upgrade the hardware and switch to using ZRS.

Sorry, I should have acked sooner. Bad me. Bad bad me.

Jim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote:
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 I just want to mention that we will run into space problems again tonight.

 The ZODB is 32 GB in size, and there's 2 GB space left on the drive. Any
 repozo run or pack at this point will fail. The only way out I can see
 involves the following:

  - delete all repozo backups

  - pack the database manually

  - delete Data.fs.old

 After that repozo will start with a fresh backup.

 Anyone have any better ideas?

 jens


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Re: [ZWeb] Error Type, IOError, Error Value, [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-06 Thread Jim Fulton
I just looked and the transaction rates have fallen from about
200-300MB/hr to about 200-300K/hr. :)

Jim

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Michael Haubenwallnermich...@d2m.at wrote:
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 Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:43 , Andreas Jung wrote:

 Same issue this morning. This must be fixed soon - otherwise we can
 not
 proceed with the releases.

 I just looked and for some strange reason the ZODB has grown to over
 30 GB, which means it more than doubled in size since the last full
 backup on August 2. Looking at the backup files from repozo it appears
 the massive growth happened over the last few days, those daily
 incrementals since August 2 range from 5-6 GB in size each.

 I have now freed up 3 GB by deleting the remaining delta files from
 the previous round of backups, but this may not be enough seeing how
 fast the database is growing. Something fishy is going on.


 Hi, this was caused by spamming 2 collector issues in member space, each
 holding a transcript of about 1 MB and more.

 I removed the issues, blocked the spamming user account and finally
 changed default roles for everything collector related to 'Manager'.

 Regards
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Re: [ZWeb] IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-07 Thread Jim Fulton
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote:
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 On Aug 7, 2009, at 08:36 , Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

 Hi, disk is full again.
 Last successful transaction was at 2009-08-07 12:50:24 AM systemtime.

 As predicted, the disk was full when the pack process finished. I'm
 surprised it did finish at all.

I guess we got lucky.

 I deleted the Data.fs.old file.

Thanks.

 @Jim: the automated pack apparently does not pack to 0 days. Someone will
 have to do this manually to get a smaller ZODB.

We're going to replace the hardware, and when we do, we'll have a much
larger disk.  I think we have enough disk space for now as long as we
don't pack.

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Re: [ZWeb] IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device

2009-08-07 Thread Jim Fulton
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote:
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 On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:52 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 We're going to replace the hardware, and when we do, we'll have a much
 larger disk.  I think we have enough disk space for now as long as we
 don't pack.

 Who is making sure that any automated pack cron jobs are turned off?

We already did.

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Re: [ZWeb] download.zope.org

2010-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
AFAICT, it isn't being maintained.

I stopped using it a while ago. :(

Jim

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Sascha Welter zopel...@betabug.ch wrote:
 Hi!

 I don't know if anybody already noticed... download.zope.org seems to be
 down since yesterday (Sunday 2010-10-10).

 Regards,

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-08-18 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:

 It looks like zope.org has moved.

 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes to
 zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content?

 Hi Mark,

 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from 
 looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old Zope 
 releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available for the 
 moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep the scope 
 small.

Can we spider this into a static site?

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-06 Thread Jim Fulton
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 httrack should be the tool for creating a static site while preserving
 all exisiting URLs.

What incantation should I use?

Why should I use this rather than wget?

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-09 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 17:54 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Aug 18, 2011, at 15:45 , Mark W. Alexander wrote:

 It looks like zope.org has moved.

 Congratulations! The new site looks great. I see old.zope.org still comes 
 to
 zope.com's servers. Are there any plans to move or deprecate that content?

 Hi Mark,

 Right now there are no specific plans for old.zope.org. As you can see from 
 looking at the site, we tried to keep content under /Products (e.g. old 
 Zope releases) and under /Members (member content and software) available 
 for the moment since very little of it was migrated to the new site to keep 
 the scope small.

 Can we spider this into a static site?


 Hi Jim,

 I'm sure if all the stuff that's currently public is spidered into a static 
 site no one would complain. There's no specific reason for anyone to log in 
 and access protected content, unless a sysadmin needs to fix something. If 
 it's static I could immediately move it off to one of the ZF-controlled 
 servers, too.

Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
put it.

As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
I'll decommission the current machines.

I'm working on deploying an app for management of user accounts for svn access.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-10 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 10, 2011, at 08:57 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume 
 you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.

 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

 I'll look at it over the next couple days. Thanks!

 Hi Jim,

 I've spent a little time looking at the files and doing some cleanup. It 
 works, mostly. I've deployed it and changed DNS. Once the DNS change has 
 propagated and there is no negative feedback the ZC-hosted version can go 
 away.

 Thanks for the tarball!

Thanks for setting up the new old site. :)

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 Great. I have a 400MB tarball.  I put in ~zope on app2.zope.org. I assume you
 have access to that machine. If not, let me know where I should
 put it.

 As soon as you bring up a static old.zope.org (and switch dns, of course),
 I'll decommission the current machines.

 Others have found a serious issue with the static data: Due to the way the 
 software release product and folders were structured, the tarball contains no 
 Zope release tarballs/exe-files. The tarball URLs end up as folders 
 containing the view templates swreleasefile_view and viewMD5.

If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
folders, can you knit it into the static site?

Jim


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

 I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal 
 links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately 
 and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files 
 themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy
directories with the actual tar balls.

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 16:53 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 15:45 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 If I can provide a new tar ball that contains just release files in
 folders, can you knit it into the static site?

 I think the only way to make them available without breaking all internal 
 links to these releases on the static site would be to put them separately 
 and use Apache rewrite magic to try and catch any requests for the files 
 themselves, which would always end in .../Zope-XXX.[tgz|exe|…]

 I think you can write a script that just replaces the goofy
 directories with the actual tar balls.

 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like

 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.

 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but you 
 cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.

Can you give an example?

Maybe we need to clean up those links.

Jim


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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org move

2011-10-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:
 But that's not enough. The internal links on the static site point to items 
 *past* the tarball filename, like

 XXX/Zope-2.12.0-final.tgz/swreleasefile_view.

 If I just replace what's currently a folder with the actual tarball I don't 
 need to do any Apache magic and the file will be in the right place, but 
 you cannot navigate to the release file from within the old.zope.org site 
 anymore. The navigation links there will all break.

 Can you give an example?

 Go to http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/ and notice the link URLs for 
 the items Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz and Zope-2.11.4-win32.exe.


 Maybe we need to clean up those links.

 Yes, that's another option.

+1 :)

I've created ~zope/Products.tgz on app2.zope.org that has all of the
release files in a directory structure rooted at Products.  I
recommend:

1. For all html files in the existing static site, remove link endings
/swreleasefile_view
2. Walk the directory tree in Products.tgz and for each path, replace
whatever is in
the static site with the contents of the tar ball.

If you don't have time to do this and want to give me access, I can do this.

Jim

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Re: [ZWeb] zope.org domain expired

2015-12-02 Thread Jim Fulton
Thanks. It's been renewed.

Jim

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sascha Welter <zopel...@betabug.ch> wrote:
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>
> No idea if this mail will make it anywhere...
>
> Apparently the domain zope.org expired on 11/27/2015.
>
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