Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin
Thanks to both of you. On 9/27/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we* volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ndrew Sawyers wrote: > You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we* > volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a > nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have > thei

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Chris Withers
Andrew Sawyers wrote: You didn't cc tres Yeah, I know, but since Jens shouted at me shortly afterwards, I didn't think I'd rectify the situation ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk __

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Andrew Sawyers
You didn't cc tres - but I'm sitting next to him, and informed him *we* volunteered cabana if we want it.Tres actually doesn't use cabana as a nameserver - mainly me (unless the other guys have changed how the have their domains setup). A On 9/27/06 3:52 AM, "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: > Whoever you decide to nag, I think the three of us can hammer this out. Excellent. By the way, are you a Zope Foundation member in any way? I'm not sure whether it matters at this stage, just checking. Nope. Is there an organizational membership option? ;) I'm not sure, d

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Sep 2006, at 09:52, Chris Withers wrote: Justizin wrote: I haven't even got my responder up yet, to be honest. I'll be moving my domains to zoneedit at the same time as zope.org. I assume one of these is yours, and one of them jens' ? caba

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Sep 2006, at 02:00, Justizin wrote: Okay. ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into their database. Who wants to run a slave? ns1.dataflake.org I need to know the master IP to set it up. jens -BEGIN PGP S

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-27 Thread Chris Withers
Justizin wrote: I haven't even got my responder up yet, to be honest. I'll be moving my domains to zoneedit at the same time as zope.org. I assume one of these is yours, and one of them jens' ? cabana.palladion.com 69.44.155.17 That'll be Tres (cc'ed in 'cos I don't know if he's on this

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
I haven't even got my responder up yet, to be honest. I'll be moving my domains to zoneedit at the same time as zope.org. I assume one of these is yours, and one of them jens' ? cabana.palladion.com 69.44.155.17 ns1.dataflake.org 8.7.96.28 On 9/26/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
If ya'll think 2's enough and your handling it; no worries. If we want another, I can do it also. Cheers, A On 9/26/06 8:00 PM, "Justizin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay. > > ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into their > database. > > Who wants to run a slave? >

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
Okay. ZoneEdit's import is broken, but zope.org zone is imported into their database. Who wants to run a slave? On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Justizin wrote: > On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I'm glad to be the lead, and I'm glad for eit

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Rob Page
Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (db.zope.org). Warning: Please read the "zc-Attachment-Warning.txt" attachment(s) for more information. Hello eveyrone: Martijn shared with me the great news - DNS volunteers! :^) Fantastic news!! Attached is the zone fil

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
> Whoever you decide to nag, I think the three of us can hammer this out. Excellent. By the way, are you a Zope Foundation member in any way? I'm not sure whether it matters at this stage, just checking. Nope. Is there an organizational membership option? ;) >> * A plan of action worked out

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Justizin wrote: On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] I'm glad to be the lead, and I'm glad for either of the other guys to be the lead. ;d You're the only one volunteering for this right now, as far as I can see, so if you think you and Jens can get along after this

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:51, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not. I'm arguing against the higher number of secondaries that you suggested earlier. Two secondaries is enough. I'm guessing that's fine

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not. I'm arguing against the higher number of secondaries that you suggested earlier. Two secondaries is enough. I'm guessing that's fine too. I haven't had any problems for four years, as mentioned, and i don't have secondaries, cuz I'm

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:20, Justizin wrote: (a) ZoneEdit probably has more zones than Rackspace, which is classified in Texas as a Small Business. ZoneEdit is well known enough that a handful of people on this small mailing list know of it. People do

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
I second the motion. On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:17, Lennart Regebro wrote: > I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify? This is about propagating data from the primary DNS

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:17, Lennart Regebro wrote: I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify? This is about propagating data from the primary DNS server (which would be that service Andrew suggested) to the databases hel

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:00, Justizin wrote: >> Do you know how DNS works? Slaves don't just ask for a transfer >> willy- >> nilly. Slaves are known to the primary and they get told when to ask. >>

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Lennart Regebro
I don't understand what you are debating, really. Could you clarify? ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 18:00, Justizin wrote: Do you know how DNS works? Slaves don't just ask for a transfer willy- nilly. Slaves are known to the primary and they get told when to ask. I'm not sure this is correct. We should investigate before i

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
Okay. We will need: * A copy of the existing zope.org zone files * Cooperation from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change the NS record pointers * A list of people who need access in ZoneEdit I have a fresh ZoneEdit account open with five free zones, and I can directly import an entire BIND Zone

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:48, Justizin wrote: > Well, since I don't know about the suggested provider, here's my > concern - let's say I manage your DNS on my servers, and you want to > provide your

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:48, Justizin wrote: Well, since I don't know about the suggested provider, here's my concern - let's say I manage your DNS on my servers, and you want to provide your own local servers. How do you get a copy of the latest zone

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Andrew, learn bottom-posting please! I haven't worked with zoneedit, but would volunteer a secondary DNS setup on one of my boxes. ZoneEdit has a very ugly site, but technically I haven't had one single problem with them during four yea

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have a bunch of secondaries.I'm sure there's lots of us who could do secondary dns for this. I've used zoneedit for several years now - flawlessly. First 5 domains are free - so that shouldn't be a problem. Andrew On 9/26/06 10

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
> > Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be > hooked up as a secondary. > > jens > > As do I . Andrew ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:21, Andrew Sawyers wrote: DNS changes should be very tightly regulated and the group of people who can make them should be very small since DNS is a very important wheel in the machinery which can break all other services if no

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
This has nothing to do with a newbie friendly tool - but a third party to be the primary, so that a single person isn't the 'owner' of this - so those with appropriate access can manage this. I'm sure all of us on the list understand the importance of DNS and it's reliability. Since it's free an

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 16:56, Justizin wrote: One reason I like the idea of the ACM hosting this zone is that we are probably going to stick around, so Zope.org won't be likely to fall by the wayside. Umh, thanks for implying that others (like me) won

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be > hooked up as a secondary. > > jens > > As do I . Andrew I could slave as well. I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries, depending

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On 9/26/06 11:10 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:02, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > >> We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have >> a bunch >> of secondaries.I'm sure there's

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:02, Andrew Sawyers wrote: We can use someone like zoneedit.com for the primary, and then have a bunch of secondaries.I'm sure there's lots of us who could do secondary dns for this. I've used zoneedit for several years

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be >> hooked up as a secondary. > As do I . All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a loss on how to proceed, as I'm not very

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Justizin
On 9/26/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries, > depending on their size. > > Should be no problem for an 'NS' query for zope.org to point at ten or > more hosts which ru

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Sep 2006, at 17:39, Martijn Faassen wrote: Andrew Sawyers wrote: Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be hooked up as a secondary. As do I . All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I believe a single DNS query over UDP can handle around 20-25 entries, depending on their size. Should be no problem for an 'NS' query for zope.org to point at ten or more hosts which run slave. The question is, does this tool allow that? I imagin

Re: Zope.org DNS ( was Re: [ZWeb] http://namespaces.zope.org/zope )

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andrew Sawyers wrote: Yeah, definitely. And if we go with that tool I volunteer to be hooked up as a secondary. As do I . All this DNS volunteering is great! Unfortunately, I'm a bit at a loss on how to proceed, as I'm not very familiar with DNS issues. So, what I need: * a single c