Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2006-01-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Gary Poster wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > >> Gary Poster wrote: >> >>> ... >>> I have old proposals for this, and some revisions of them on the >>> basis of conversations with Jim, Fred, Stephan, and Benji. >> > ... > >> ... >> I am looking forward for the proposal

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2006-01-05 Thread Gary Poster
On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: Gary Poster wrote: ... I have old proposals for this, and some revisions of them on the basis of conversations with Jim, Fred, Stephan, and Benji. ... ... I am looking forward for the proposal revision :) Just a heads up that I am unlikely

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Benji York wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: I was talking about a toolkit because it seems that most of the time there's a cohesion between a web framework, its community, and a js toolkit I would hate to see Z3 create its own JS toolkit. +1 While it may be useful to have some glue in JS that ex

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Benji York
Tarek Ziadé wrote: I don't know if Javascript is mature... I meant that there are many new Ajax toolkits out there that haven't been there for long. I wouldn't consider any of them mature. Mochikit comes the closest as far as I can tell. I was talking about a toolkit because it seems tha

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Dec 6, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote: I don't know if Javascript is mature (I think Benji's question is not whether JS is mature but the AJAX library landscape is mature; that's certainly what I question) but I do know we all do javascript/ajax in our customer apps today because

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Uwe Oestermeier wrote: >a toolkit that is shared by the whole Zope community would be great, >independent of the question whether it should be part of Z3 core or not. >As an alternative http://svn.zope.org/zope3org could also be a place where >all contributors could access and maintain such a libr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Jeff Shell
Bottlerocket has also chosen MochiKit. It's not full of flashy effects, but its Ajax support is nice, it's well tested, and it brings a lot of Python style functionality to JavaScript which makes JavaScript suck a whole lot less (for real - the DOM and Iterator libraries are absolutely great). In

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Gary Poster
On Dec 6, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Benji York wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: Before starting it up, I was thinking that it would be nice if the whole Z3 community would be using the same toolkit, and maybe, even integrate it into Z3 itself. I think that instead of settling one a single toolkit we sh

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Benji York
Tarek Ziadé wrote: Before starting it up, I was thinking that it would be nice if the whole Z3 community would be using the same toolkit, and maybe, even integrate it into Z3 itself. I think that instead of settling one a single toolkit we should come up with some simple ideas for offering up

Re: [Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Uwe Oestermeier
Hi Tarek, > > >Before starting it up, I was thinking that it would be nice if the whole >Z3 community would be using the same toolkit, and maybe, even integrate >it into Z3 itself. a toolkit that is shared by the whole Zope community would be great, independent of the question whether it should b

[Zope3-dev] Ajax in Zope 3

2005-12-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Hi all, Some UI works have been done lately around and in Zope 3. I am thinking about the work that has been done at Neckar sprint (Zope3.org website, Viewlets, etc..), and on projects like CPSSkins for Z3 at ECM. I am planning to work on UI things as well, and on Ajax things in particular, bot