Martin Aspeli wrote:
The general direction that web frameworks are moving in, led by Rails and to
a certain extent Django, Pylons, TurboGears and arguably Plone in some
circumstances, is that getting started must be quick, results must be rapid,
the tools must support "agile" working practices
Jim Fulton wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
[snip]
Just splitting stuff up into little flexible pieces won't attract
people. If our goal is to attract Zope 3 developers we need to make it
easy to get started. We can also say that Zope 3 is componentized and
flexible and all that, and this will a
Hey there,
Martin Aspeli wrote:
[snip]
I would be worried if I felt that the Zope 3 community became only about
components and left this "real world but generic assembly" work to "someone
else" when no "someone else" would be interested or skilled or emotionally
invested enough to care. In the
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
I'll make some small comments below, but I want to make a big
comment to start. Zope 2 and Plone are both examples of
extensible applications. In my note, I was trying to make the
point that I think such applications have value. I'd like to
see them ex
Hi,
because Zope 2.10.2+ will use unicode as internal representation for
page templates I am currently checking the options to get rid of
UnicodeDecodeErrors for Zope 2.11 by providing some more intelligent
conversion of non-unicode content. Basically I want if the content returned
by expression
Martijn Faassen wrote:
My hope is that with Grok we can inject some sensibilities into Zope 3
that focus more on getting things done easily and quickly. I think that
the basis built with an attitude of reusable and flexible components is
great to build a powerful "getting things done easily an
On Saturday 06 January 2007 07:37, Andreas Jung wrote:
> because Zope 2.10.2+ will use unicode as internal representation for
> page templates I am currently checking the options to get rid of
> UnicodeDecodeErrors for Zope 2.11 by providing some more intelligent
> conversion of non-unicode content
Jim Fulton wrote:
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Anyway - I hope these perspectives are useful. I'm certainly not
disagreeing
with what you're saying or with the direction you're pointing out. I
think
we just need be mindful that there were some good things about the past
approaches as well as p
--On 6. Januar 2007 10:08:11 -0500 Stephan Richter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yeah, there is. The "engine" does all the expression evaluation work. It
already handles the I18n stuff, so you should be able to do your unicode
conversions there too.
The engine uses an expression context. Thi
On Saturday 06 January 2007 12:03, Andreas Jung wrote:
> returns always unicode for non-strings but keeps standard Python
> strings as they are.
I think we always require to return unicode text within Zope 3, so there
should never be a regular string in there.
> I have some ideas how make resol
Paul Everitt wrote:
Thus, telling the Zope 3 core team to own and distribute the killer app
is neither realistic nor fair. Move Zope 3 to its natural turf and
collaborate with folks that feel passionate about other turf.
Application != the framework.
A very good point. Perhaps the future w
Andreas Jung wrote:
Hi,
because Zope 2.10.2+ will use unicode as internal representation for
page templates I am currently checking the options to get rid of
UnicodeDecodeErrors for Zope 2.11 by providing some more intelligent
conversion of non-unicode content. Basically I want if the content
r
--On 6. Januar 2007 12:15:19 -0500 Stephan Richter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Saturday 06 January 2007 12:03, Andreas Jung wrote:
returns always unicode for non-strings but keeps standard Python
strings as they are.
I think we always require to return unicode text within Zope 3,
whic
--On 6. Januar 2007 20:34:15 +0100 Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
This kind of automagic unicode error defeating logic scares me. With
Silva, we have a significant Zope 2 application that already takes care
to output unicode to the page template engine. For a while we were using
P
On 1/6/07, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hopefully, we'll see something else emerge as well that is conceptually
a combination of the two: End user-oriented and pure Zope 3.
The only issue here is whether Zope 3 itself is useful directly to end
users, or something built on top (regar
I wonder whether we can add README file at subversion root directory
to explain how differentiate zope 2 from Zope 3 project ?
I suggest this content :
"""
Frequently Asked Question :
Q : What directory are Zope 2 and Zope 3 projects ?
A : There aren't simple rules. First, every directory that
I would like edit http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FAQ/ page but I've this
error when I save or preview the page :
Error Type: IOError
Error Value: [Errno 122] Disk quota exceeded
Someone can fix it ?
Thanks,
Stephane
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