Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-25 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 22 April 2005 10:18, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Stephan Richter wrote: > [snip] > > > I think of zpkgtools as a prototype for extensions that are necessary > > for distutils. > > Is it the Zope project's job to extend distutils, though? I mean, > developing something new is nice, but ther

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Fred Drake
On 4/22/05, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > don't think zpkgtools wants to manage dependencies on the whole system, > yet that's what users need. Yes. It should be possible for zpkg to assemble the requirements metadata from components so that it all gets reported to distutils (if dis

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jim Fulton wrote: > Shane Hathaway wrote: >> I'm sure Fred is doing excellent work, but I'm having trouble seeing why >> we need zpkgtools. Is it not sufficient to just "python setup.py >> install" all of Zope 3? > > I hope so. What zpkgtools does is to: > > - Build our setup.py script (which

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: [snip] > I think of zpkgtools as a prototype for extensions that are necessary > for distutils. Is it the Zope project's job to extend distutils, though? I mean, developing something new is nice, but there's a lot of a new stuff on our plate already, isn't there? Overall

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Jim Fulton
Shane Hathaway wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Thanks for the positive feedback. Fred Drake worked very hard on this. One thing we did right was to leverage distutils ability to build binary releases. I'm also encouraged by work done at the recent PyCon sprints that someday we'll

RE: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Stephan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Stephan Richter > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:22 PM > To: zope3-dev@zope.org > Cc: Chris Withers; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shane Hathaway > Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 21 April 2005 18:34, Shane Hathaway wrote: > I'm sure Fred is doing excellent work, but I'm having trouble seeing why > we need zpkgtools.  Is it not sufficient to just "python setup.py > install" all of Zope 3?  I've been doing that with Zope 3 Subversion > checkouts and Twisted, even

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Shane Hathaway wrote: [snip] I'm sure Fred is doing excellent work, but I'm having trouble seeing why we need zpkgtools. Is it not sufficient to just "python setup.py install" all of Zope 3? I've been doing that with Zope 3 Subversion checkouts and Twisted, even though I actually use less than 10

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
Shane Hathaway wrote: > Jim Fulton wrote: > >>Thanks for the positive feedback. Fred Drake worked very hard >>on this. One thing we did right was to leverage distutils >>ability to build binary releases. I'm also encouraged by work done >>at the recent PyCon sprints that someday we'll even have

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Shane Hathaway
Jim Fulton wrote: > Thanks for the positive feedback. Fred Drake worked very hard > on this. One thing we did right was to leverage distutils > ability to build binary releases. I'm also encouraged by work done > at the recent PyCon sprints that someday we'll even have a packaging > system, for P

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris Withers wrote: [snip] Anyway, like I said, so far I'm seriously impressed. Great work whoever helped out in making this process so quick and easy :-) It's good to see you got this figured out and it works so nicely; I butted my head against the thing a few times but my use cases at the tim

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Fred Drake
On 4/21/05, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but there is no setup.py in the app version ;-) No, but there is install.py, which is the same thing. It is renamed to avoid confusion about whether the Makefile or setup.py is the preferred interface for working with the package. > So,

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 21 April 2005 08:02, Chris Withers wrote: > So, what you're saying is that this is a command line option to zpkg? If I remember correctly, yes. :-) Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Developm

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Withers
Stephan Richter wrote: There are two modes, application and package. Zope is built as an application, so you get the Makefile and all, but if you build a package you can use plain setup.py. However, I think Makefile is just a frontend for the setup.py calls anyways. Yes, but there is no setup.py

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 21 April 2005 06:57, Chris Withers wrote: > Out of interest, how'd I go about making something I can: > > python setup.py install > > ...with zpkgtools? There are two modes, application and package. Zope is built as an application, so you get the Makefile and all, but if you build a p

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: Thanks for the positive feedback. Fred Drake worked very hard on this. One thing we did right was to leverage distutils ability to build binary releases. I'm also encouraged by work done at the recent PyCon sprints that someday we'll even have a packaging system, for Python that

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Jim Fulton
Thanks for the positive feedback. Fred Drake worked very hard on this. One thing we did right was to leverage distutils ability to build binary releases. I'm also encouraged by work done at the recent PyCon sprints that someday we'll even have a packaging system, for Python that will allow us to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-21 Thread Chris Withers
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Chris Do you know what the problem is on windows? Regards Roger Hi Roger, No idea I'm afraid, on a time time deadline on this one so I didn't have time to dig into it... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.sim

Re: [Zope3-dev] Building standalone ZPT from Zope 3 using zpkgtools

2005-04-20 Thread Chris Withers
Chris Withers wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how to build a standalone ZPT package from Zope 3 using zpkgtools? To make matters more fun, it's on Windows ;-) Well, I have to admit, I'm seriously impressed. Having understood that zpkgtools only works on unix, I did the following: svn co svn://svn.zop