Howdy All,
I will try to keep it even shorter. I am will with Mike on all the points -
nothing he has not said that I wanted too. And we still need to work on
getting a more comprehensive to do list, and from more than one person.
Last, once we get the board part worked out, I say we need to figure out at
least three major design goals: Compiler Direction, Memory Management
Direction (and what is needed by the compiler to do it correctly), and
Driver Design - as those seem to be the main areas we are "stuck in the mud"
at the moment.
Btw, Phil, I really liked those ideas you proposed. This weekend I will see
about getting you some better feedback, but right now I am having to finish
stuff for a presentation tomorrow.
Ok, got to get back to the lab.
-Adam
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:53 AM, grover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> William,
>
> this is going to be my last mail on this topic. I just want to reflect
> my opinion on this. If pulled out the statements I (disagree/have a
> different opinion) with below. I hope I'm not pulling something out of
> context. Anyways:
>
> >
> > Don't mistake our reluctance to rush in on a new election process
> > without thinking it through as some sort of power grab.
>
> I'm not making a mistake. I'm just pointing out. The issue at hand is
> that guidance was missing. We don't even have a definition of the next
> milestone and what's part of it nor a release target for all to adjust
> to.
>
> > The current active board members
> > (me, Bruce, and Sander) are still very interested in the project but
> > we're too busy to contribute *code* to the project. That doesn't mean
> > we aren't able and willing to discuss issues related to it, it just
> > means we can't lay down code right now.
>
> And this is my problem with the current board. You don't need to
> contribute code. Actually IMHO you shouldn't even think about it. The
> purpose of the board in my understanding and by your definition (Quote
> from the Website)
>
> "The provisional board has the highest authority to make decisions
> regarding the project, including (but not limited to) the
> administration, creative direction, and official policies of the
> project. It also has the highest authority for resolving project-
> related conflicts among project contributors."
>
> Now where's the creative direction, where is the active guidance and
> conflict resolution? This is not CODE this is architecture, design and
> documentation. Generally speaking areas where a good engineer sucks
> at. What I'm talking about is being available on IRC for questions and
> to document these decisions. An example:
>
> - Adam Stevenson called for a virtual meeting on July 20. There was no
> reply by a board member to the topic (excluding server issues) and
> interestingly the meeting was mostly a two-way conversation between
> Adam and myself. So essentially no board member has shown for the
> meeting or even requested a different meeting date/time. THIS IS THE
> PROBLEM I HAVE.
>
>
> > We can certainly bring Mike in on the board as he seems to be a very
> > active force in getting things accomplished around here.
>
> I'm not interested as I have different views on certain things and
> would only cause more irritation inside the board.
>
> > Once we've got a solidified board we can begin the debate and drafting
> > of the necessary proposals to create a good governance/election system
> > and community process.
>
> Good. About time ;)
>
> Mike
>
>
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