On Wed, 2004-11-24 at 12:58, Joy wrote:

> >Garnet -  if the consensus of the world's experts is to be the basis of 

> what is "right" then all of us using colloidal silver, the topic of this

>  list, are in the "wrong".    That one just doesn't fly.  

Not what I said Joy. I did not define right and wrong. 


> So so so many 

> of "bona fide studies" and "peer reviewed journals" present such skewed

>  research based on preconceived judgements, the research designed and 

> implemented in such a way as to prove the preexisting premise.  

I have been there Joy and done those studies. Peer reviewed journals are
subject to more stringent standards than non-peer reviewed. Before you
can make a judgement about scientific research you have to know the
terms of discussion here and you also need to know a bit about
statistics and raw data. That is which tests are valid to use on what
type of data. Many publications do not review these aspects. Peer
reviewed journals do.

> In my 

> view, there is no such thing as "pure" science.  The observer (with 
> preexisting

>  beliefs and judgements)  changes the dynamics of the experience no 

> matter how "pure" the intent may be.  Just my take.

You are speaking of the Heisinberg Uncertainly Principle which states
that one can not simultaneously observe an electron and know its actual
position because by the simple act of observation one changes that
position.

However since science by definition is a a body of observations there is
not really any such term as "pure" science. That is a media term picked
up by the lay person.

>   Doesn't mean 

> one shouldn't read the information that is out there, or check out 

> the references, but that can't be the basis of one's decision as to

>  whether information is good or not.  In fact, in my view, presonal 

> experience and anecdotal information are the best source of information.

Except perhaps in the case of Physics where common sense observation
will lead you wrong in many cases. You see we are not always accurate in
our observations, that is our senses, high functioning or ordinary and
our personal experience is often interpreted through our consciousness.

We are "behind the veil" and not always able to perceive the All That Is
in its entirety. Part of life in the physical polarity universe. We can
not simultaneously know unity consciousness and polarity consciousness
for long or we will burn out the physical body. Been there. Came back a
bit crisp but survived to tell about it.

Garnet, "The Wanderer"


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