Hi Paul

I do get the last point about infinite loops. Visually it does seem to be 
indicative of the fact. Bear in mind their nodal networks are fairly recent so 
the look and feel will be tweaked going forward. That been said some of the 
reasons other nodal networks might not make those type of connections is 
because they are unable to handle them, whereas  Modo is able to.  If that is 
the case it opens some exciting possibilities that may not be possible 
elsewhere.

I must admit it does upset my little sense of neatness as well.





From: Paul Griswold 
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Date: Wednesday 07 May 2014 at 4:39 PM
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I wasn't really talking about the example, but instead the way they've decided 
to set up their connections.  It often ends up a spaghetti mess of wires that 
make circular connections with the wires running behind nodes.  I don't see the 
logic in it.  Maybe I just like clean layouts. :-)

I'm open to new ideas and ways of doing things, but it just seemed weird that 
no other node-based system creates these looped connections because infinite 
loops are bad (I understand they're not really infinite loops, but they 
visually appear to be) and again, it makes for a very sloppy graph.

-Paul


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On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Angus Davidson 
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Ones mans circular is another mans intuitive. ;) To me I found the example  
easy to follow and to duplicate and understand what was going on.  That begin 
said a lot of it is down to putting what you are used to on the shelf for a bit 
and really diving in. It was only once I did that did I understand just how 
flexible it is. Your never going to innovate if your always trying to put 
everything in the same container, or doing things the same way.

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Date: Wednesday 07 May 2014 at 4:22 PM

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Subject: Re: softimage to modo

What do you guys think of Modo's nodal deformer layout?  I just looked at that 
growing vine tutorial page and the splash page for the video shows exactly what 
I personally dislike.  Their node connections seem to be really sloppy and IMHO 
could lead to a confusing mess pretty quickly.  They've got connections that 
make circular loops, so there's no left to right or top to bottom flow like 
you'd have in pretty much every other node-based system I've used.

I mentioned it during Brad's webinar and he kind-of brushed it off, but I find 
it really distracting.

-Paul

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