Hey Simon
I've done a few Maya jobs as part of a team the past few months.
The people on the team were very experienced, helpful and patient with me.
Doing this on your own is madness!!

I did some rigging, and I actually think Maya is pretty good at creating rigs. Its the deformation of the rigged objects that drove me up the wall.

I did allot of lighting and rendering, and at first glance, liked the node editor. Then you get to the details and realize that many things that should work, don't.

Animating is ok, but the graph editor hurt my brain. I couldn't figure out how to set the key handles length and angle by typing values for example.

I did a huge bifrost job, and I'm sure bifrost will be great one day.. but I might not live that long.

Nparticles ..... how the hell is this the industry leader????

Everything in maya feels like you need to learn new software to do something... It feels like after you've learned to rotate a cube, it doesn't necessarily mean you can now rotate a torus!

Too much scripting that makes you feel like you're finishing the developers job. Sure houdini is full of scripting, but at least you feel like you're scripting to make cool things, not to just , I don't know, select a hierarchy, or kill a particle.

I've done a few houdini tutorials, and my first real job finished today.
The job I just did in houdini is sooo far out of my reach in maya, and would even be a bit of a mission with ICE.
Fair enough it is a frost effect on a pack shot, but still.. fun was had!

The best part is: I don't feel like I need a strong drink at the end of the day.
G
On 17/03/2015 12:54, Simon Reeves wrote:
Can I ask, what areas having you been using Maya/Houdini that spurred you to make the post?

I've been using Maya for a couple of months for scene assembly/rendering, (bringing in models/caches/assigning shaders/passes) so that's my only experience.






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On 17 March 2015 at 10:08, adrian wyer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    excellent closing quote, Side Effects should use that in their
    commercials!

    "...there's a SOP for that!"

    a

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of
    Gerbrand Nel
    Sent: 17 March 2015 10:12
    To: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Very OT: for the love of your career.. try houdini

    I'm not getting anything out of posting this, except knowing I might
    save the life of a fellow artist.

    So I spent the last year learning Maya, and got to a point where I can
    compete against people straight out of collage.
    This got me a bit down, as I'm one of the more experienced softimage
    artists here in South Africa.
    At the end of 2014 I realized that 3D is no longer fun if it all
    has to
    happen in maya for me.
    My brain doesn't work the way maya works.
    I'm also not much of a clairvoyant, so predicting what I have to
    do now,
    just in case the director asks for something in 2 weeks from now, lead
    to allot of back tracking.

    At first I decided to learn Maya over houdini because of the price tag
    of Houdini FX.
    It also seemed like I would exclude myself from bigger projects if
    I was
    one, of only a few houdini artists around.
    Houdini indie, and indie engine has completely nullified these
    concerns.

    The perceived learning curve of houdini was also a bit of a
    concern to me.

    I started learning houdini 2 months ago, and I can do more with
    it, than
    I can with Maya after a year.
    The first few days in houdini is pretty hard, but the whole package
    works as one. Once you get your head around its fundamentals, doing
    something new is fun and pretty easy.

    This might not be true for everyone here, but some of us needs a non
    destructive open work flow.
    So if you guys haven't tried it yet, and if you are fed up with the
    whole "there is a script for that" mentality... there is a sop for
    that

    G



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