On 2 April 2012 15:46, Rémi Després <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Le 2012-04-02 à 12:33, Ole Trøan a écrit :
>
> >> If this is to say that until a BOF is started, you will keep your
> objection(s) unknown, I continue to take it as a lack of identified
> objections.
> >
> > the objections I'm aware of are:
> > - people are uncomfortable with only a double translation solution
>
> Are you furtively suggesting that 4rd-U has all limitations of a real
> double translation solution like MAP-T?
> That mays sound tactically smart, but isn't justified by facts.
>

Woj> Well, in terms of facts we have
1. 4rd-U does not supporting single translation mode, or if it does then is
requires NAT64/BIH/Something else. (How anybody thinks that deploying 4rd-u
+ "something" else is manageable is a mystery)
2. 4rd-u is incompatible with NAT64 use or deployment
2. MAP solution (call it MAP, divi, or other variants) has proven deployment
3. Any operator who runs NAT64 today is a proof point that 4rd-U solves
problems that are non-issues to operators.
4. 4rd-u changes the basic structure/use of the v6 header, which is a
change to IPv6 that needs to be vetted by 6man, etc. Creating such "novel"
(bogus?) IPv6 packets, that no regular IPv6 host today will recognize and
use, effectively creates a new IPv6 protocol sub-class.

Indeed 4rd-u deserves an "experimental" status track, more than anything.

-Wojciech.
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