This test was developed in Cobb Co. GA and it did not take the place of design 
and hydraulics etc but simply insured that the amount of water and pressure the 
designer/engineer designed for the remote are was indeed available and the 
system could deliver the correct amount of water at the required pressure as 
dictated by the calculations through the orifice of the design sprinkler.  It 
was surprising the number of systems that failed when the test was preformed.

Michael L. Brown
Manager of Technical Services
The Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc.'
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(864) 843-5228

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is a Bucket Test?

Bucket tests don't show if a system will work, only that it will flow the
amount of water written somewhere. Are the heads the same as used in the
design? Is the spacing the same? Is the coverage as required? Are the flows
as required for the slope of the ceiling? The spacing? There's a lot more to
making the system work than if some specific amount of water flows out in a
specific amount of time.
EDUCATION EDUCATION!!!
Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matsuda, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: What is a Bucket Test?


I've always thought that the purpose of the bucket test was not only to
verify adequate flow, but also to verify that the piping was actually
connected to a water supply.

With the 13D or 13R installations, the piping configuration is often a
convoluted mix of looped and gridded piping like a birdcage. In some
cases it's almost impossible to verify the piping is actually installed
according to the plans. In fact in multi-story buildings, it's possible
(maybe improbable) to installed portions of the piping which are looped
and connected to itself, but not connected to any water supply. By using
the bucket test, one could verify that the piping was actually connected
to the water supply...maybe.

rick matsuda, city of dallas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: What is a Bucket Test?

With the why now answered and seemingly support and justification why
aren't
we doing this in all system even ESFR?  Seems like all the 'cuz's have
nothing to do with residential specifically?

I'm guessing this is a can of worms I don't want to open but just did.
Can
I un-ring Pandora's Box?

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
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