Scott,

Well, it is ND and if the bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the woods and nobody sees or
smells it....I think the owner has that cavalier, "Well, I've never
had a fire..." attitude, his insurers thinks he stores glass marbles
in metal containers no higher the two feet, there is no fire
department and the EPA is way off in Washington. Remember that Tyson
factory fire way back in the mid-nineties where people died because
the doors were chained so they couldn't take unauthorized breaks. I
remember vividly the county fire marshal being interviewed and when
asked if he'd been out to inspect the plant he replied that since he'd
become fire marshal he hadn't had the time. When asked how long he'd
been fire marshal he replied, "Pert near eleven years." And then there
were all the Tyson big wigs making speeches how policies would be
changed so this never happened again. Then if your were paying
attention that same plant caught fire again a couple of years ago and
nobody died but they found the doors chained again. At 58 I'm thinking
barista might be a good career move.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Scott A. Futrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesn't someone still have to be concerned about life safety, and then
> don't forget firefighter safety, runoff, cleanup...
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>
>
> Scott
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> (763) 425-1001 Office
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> (612) 759-5556 Cell
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sornsin
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: (no subject)
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>
>
> In this case, it's the A/E firm that has all the responsibility:  This
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> is rural ND - there is no "AHJ".  Also, the A/E doesn't know who the
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> insurance provider is.  That leaves the owner, who should probably be
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> consulted.  That would also serve well to highlight how their "paid
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> experts" in the A/E firm aren't capable of doing their jobs.
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>
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> Isn't it funny how I confident I am that no one in that A/E firm will be
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> seeing these public posts about them?
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>
>
> (Robert, I know of this project, but am not involved in any way)
>
>
>
> Mark A. Sornsin, PE
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> Fire Protection Engineer
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> Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
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> Fargo, ND
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> 701.280.8591
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron
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> Greenman
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:22 PM
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> To: [email protected]
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> Subject: Re: (no subject)
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>
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> Doesn't the decision to let it burn or not belong to the owner (he
>
> that gets to pay if it does), the insurer (he that gets to pay if
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> involved) and the AHJ (he that looks out for the public's interest as
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> defined by law)? Then there's the architect, the owner's paid expert,
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> that's supposed to consult with him regarding requirements, options
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> and best solutions. Unless you're being paid to be one of these your
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> only consideration should be as to how much your nether regions are
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> hanging in the wind and if the breeze is too cold to play.
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> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> I have a canola crushing facility that uses no solvents in the
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> extraction
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>> process.   Any ideas on the hazard classification?  NFPA 36 is for
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> solvent
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>> based extraction.
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>> I say that the delivery and load out areas should also be protected.
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> as
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>> well as the cooling tower and storage tanks.    They say let it burn.
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>>
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>> Thank you
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>>  Robert  Thompson
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>>
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>>  DAKOTA
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>> FIRE PROTECTION
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>> 1710 N. Washington Street
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>> Grand Forks ND 58206-5327
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>> Phone # (701) 772-8820
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