I have been watching this thread with interest, and finally have to ask (and yes, I am sure this will stir the pot as well)....

This particular issue is one which requires more than just mundane interpretation of the NFPA 13 standard. Who should be doing the interpreting??? NICET technicians, or PE"s, or ???

My gut feeling here is that if you choose to support the more liberal interpretation, that this will NOT require both above and below protection, especially without any significant test data to back it up at this point, that this is not the place for a NICET technician to make this decision, or for that matter to try to "sell" it to the local AHJ. Do you really want that liability? Not to mention whether you are exceeding your "authority" under NICET rules for practicing engineering?




Jeff Hewitt, PE, SET, SFPE (Professional Member)
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: Floating Ceilings


NFPA 13 2002 Edition - Section 8.14.1.2.2 - "Noncombustible and limited combustible concealed spaces with limited access and not permitting occupancy or storage or combustibles shall not require sprinkler protection. The space shall be considered a concealed space even with small openings such as those used as return air for a plenum".

Maybe I did not describe correctly the ceiling construction. The ceiling will be installed throughout the space(s) at the same elevation. The "openings" are 7" gaps along the perimeter walls or between sections of the ceiling within the room. This only occurs in a few of the spaces/rooms and those rooms are separated by full height wall from other spaces.

I believe the section above may adequately address this issue to the point I can meet with AHJ concerning sprinkler protection above the ceiling space.



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