" THERE IS A ROOF OR DECK ABOVE" is missing from the NYS IBC

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: sprinkler heads in exterior decks or balconies

John,

I'm home and sans my full collection of boring books but is that caveat
about "PROVIDED THERE IS A ROOF OR DECK ABOVE" in 2006 as well as 2009? Did
I just miss it?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, John Drucker
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Correct. Emphasis in CAPS.
>
> 2009 IBC
>
> [F] 903.3.1.2.1 Balconies and decks. Sprinkler protection shall be 
> provided for exterior balconies, decks and ground floor patios of 
> dwelling units where the building is of Type V construction, PROVIDED 
> THERE IS A ROOF OR DECK ABOVE. Sidewall sprinklers that are used to 
> protect such areas shall be permitted to be located such that their 
> deflectors are within 1 inch (25 mm) to
> 6 inches (152 mm) below the structural members and a maximum distance 
> of 14 inches (356 mm) below the deck of the exterior balconies and 
> decks that are constructed of open wood joist construction.
>
> Hope that helps
>
>
> John Drucker, CET
> Fire Protection Subcode Official
> Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector
> Fire Marshals Office
> Borough of Red Bank, NJ
>
> Not the official position of any agency, association, committee or 
> otherwise.  Obtain required applications, permits, inspections and 
> approvals from Authority(s) Having Jurisdiction.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
> Williams
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: sprinkler heads in exterior decks or balconies
>
> I believe the point is to protect the structure above from a fire 
> below. No balcony or roof, no exterior sprinkler required.
>
> David Toshio Williams, PE, LEED-AP O+M High Performance Projects 
> Principal
>
> LHB, Inc. | PERFORMANCE DRIVEN DESIGN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Chaim [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: sprinkler heads in exterior decks or balconies
>
> I'm trying to get clarification already for a while regarding 
> sprinklers on exterior decks, balconies & ground floor patios my 
> questions are as
> follows:
>
>
>
>
> .         Ground floor patios without a roof on top of it, where do I
place
> the sprinkler head?
>
> .         Are terraces required to have a sprinkler head?
>
> .         What is the purpose of installing a sprinkler head below the
> decks
> if I want to protect the deck area?
>
>
>
> I tried contacting New York state DOB and I never got a straight 
> answer, I looked up the IBC in different states and they added the 
> words "provided there is a roof above the deck"  looks to me that 
> there is some typographical error error in this section
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SECTION OF FIRE CODE OF NYS CODE:
>
>
>
> FCNYS  903.3.1.2.1 Balconies and decks. Sprinkler protection shall be 
> provided for exterior balconies, decks and ground floor patios of 
> dwelling units where the building is of Type V construction. Sidewall 
> sprinklers that are used to protect such areas shall be permitted to 
> be located such that their deflectors are within 1 inch (25 mm) to 6 
> inches (152 mm) below the structural members and a maximum distance of 
> 14 inches (356 mm) below the deck of the exterior balconies and decks 
> that are constructed of open wood joist construction.
>
>
>
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