" THERE IS A ROOF OR DECK ABOVE" is missing from the NYS IBC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: sprinkler heads in exterior decks or balconies
John, I'm home and sans my full collection of boring books but is that caveat about "PROVIDED THERE IS A ROOF OR DECK ABOVE" in 2006 as well as 2009? Did I just miss it? On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, John Drucker <[email protected]>wrote: > Correct. Emphasis in CAPS. > > 2009 IBC > > [F] 903.3.1.2.1 Balconies and decks. Sprinkler protection shall be > provided for exterior balconies, decks and ground floor patios of > dwelling units where the building is of Type V construction, PROVIDED > THERE IS A ROOF OR DECK ABOVE. Sidewall sprinklers that are used to > protect such areas shall be permitted to be located such that their > deflectors are within 1 inch (25 mm) to > 6 inches (152 mm) below the structural members and a maximum distance > of 14 inches (356 mm) below the deck of the exterior balconies and > decks that are constructed of open wood joist construction. > > Hope that helps > > > John Drucker, CET > Fire Protection Subcode Official > Fire/Building/Electrical Inspector > Fire Marshals Office > Borough of Red Bank, NJ > > Not the official position of any agency, association, committee or > otherwise. Obtain required applications, permits, inspections and > approvals from Authority(s) Having Jurisdiction. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David > Williams > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: sprinkler heads in exterior decks or balconies > > I believe the point is to protect the structure above from a fire > below. No balcony or roof, no exterior sprinkler required. > > David Toshio Williams, PE, LEED-AP O+M High Performance Projects > Principal > > LHB, Inc. | PERFORMANCE DRIVEN DESIGN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Chaim [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: sprinkler heads in exterior decks or balconies > > I'm trying to get clarification already for a while regarding > sprinklers on exterior decks, balconies & ground floor patios my > questions are as > follows: > > > > > . Ground floor patios without a roof on top of it, where do I place > the sprinkler head? > > . Are terraces required to have a sprinkler head? > > . What is the purpose of installing a sprinkler head below the > decks > if I want to protect the deck area? > > > > I tried contacting New York state DOB and I never got a straight > answer, I looked up the IBC in different states and they added the > words "provided there is a roof above the deck" looks to me that > there is some typographical error error in this section > > > > > > > > > > SECTION OF FIRE CODE OF NYS CODE: > > > > FCNYS 903.3.1.2.1 Balconies and decks. Sprinkler protection shall be > provided for exterior balconies, decks and ground floor patios of > dwelling units where the building is of Type V construction. Sidewall > sprinklers that are used to protect such areas shall be permitted to > be located such that their deflectors are within 1 inch (25 mm) to 6 > inches (152 mm) below the structural members and a maximum distance of > 14 inches (356 mm) below the deck of the exterior balconies and decks > that are constructed of open wood joist construction. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. 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