My foreman claimed NTS stood for Not To Sure. I always went with your version.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:52 PM, Russell Gregory via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just to add to the abbreviations we use TC (to cut) in conjunction with SOE > or GOE. > Also note that NTS is used on drawings as “Not To Scale”. > > Russell Gregory > Christchurch > New Zealand > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bill Cunningham via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2020 4:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Bill Cunningham > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > FIF. Fit in Field . Had a Foreman that claimed it meant F______ in Field. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Bruce Verhei via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > AIL? Address it later? > > Best. > > On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:06, Ben Young via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > VIF verify in field > > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:49 PM BILL MENSTER via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > NTS. (not too sure) > On January 14, 2020 at 3:08 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > My FAVORITE things to put on shop drawings (because it drove our spoiled > union fitters CRAZY) was to write GOE or TOE on an over-cut piece of pipe. > If we were in a big hurry and had no real idea of where or how to start > resolving an issue, I’d use VIF (verify in field). That was always good for > a phone call … > > Steve L. > > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Kyle.Montgomery; Bruce Verhei > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > Are you familiar with the term ‘C.O.J.’? > > > > Heheheh… > > > > Just in case you aren’t, it’s not dirty or anything. It means “cut on job”. > > > > -Kyle M > > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bruce Verhei via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Bruce Verhei <[email protected]> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this > information. Do I get it wrong. > > > > Best. > > > > Bruce Verhei > > > On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I’m curious why there is any confusion over this? > > > > Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation > information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to > calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler is > within the allowable dimensions from the deck. Without piping elevations how > will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed so that it doesn’t > run into every other system that’s in the same space? > > > > When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that > correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings and > in the calcs actually match. > > > > Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference. > > > > Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | > [email protected] | www.jacobs.com > > 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 > > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:10 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo <[email protected]> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > > Bob, > The committee wants to see relative elevation changes. This helps with > lengths of pipe and calcs too. > We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level. > (But I think you already know this!!) > > Cecil > > > > > It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the NFPA, > and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance with the > NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not be > considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the NFPA, nor > any of their technical committees. > > Sincerely, > > > Cecil Bilbo > Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology > Champaign, IL > 217.607.0325 > www.sprinkleracademy.com > [email protected] > ?? > OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on > behalf of Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:41:36 PM > To: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > Cc: Bob Knight <[email protected]> > Subject: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) > > > > From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37) Relative elevations of sprinklers, > junction points, and supply or reference points. > > This is probably an obvious question, but not to me. What is this asking for? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Bob Knight, CET III > > Fire by Knight, LLC > > 208-318-3057 > > <image001.jpg> > > > > > > > NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged > information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, > copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended > recipients is strictly prohibited. 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